Upgrading Half Life 2

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Since Half Life 2 is the only proper game( a masterpiece really) Valve made in the last 6 years(Left4Dead, TF2, Portal are all flimsy arcadey onliney crap they keep peddling for money) is it possible to upgrade HL2 so it can have dynamic lighting and shadows like Left 4 Dead has, it really makes a huge difference as can be seen in Left 4 Dead.
 
Hortz said:
Left4Dead, TF2, Portal are all flimsy arcadey onliney crap they keep peddling for money
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Stellar.

There is a mod called um let me see something like the 'Fakefactory Cinematic Mod'. It adds much more detailed textures and models and lighting effects, but, be warned, it also adds a whole lot of shit that you probably don't want.
 
Almost stopped reading here:

Hortz said:
Since Half Life 2 is the only proper game( a masterpiece really) Valve made in the last 6 years
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But giving you the benefit of the doubt, I read on, and actually stopped reading here:

Hortz said:
(Left4Dead, TF2, Portal are all flimsy arcadey onliney crap they keep peddling for money)
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None of that was needed if you were simply asking about a graphic update.
 
Hortz said:
[...] is it possible to upgrade HL2 so it can have dynamic lighting and shadows like Left 4 Dead has, it really makes a huge difference as can be seen in Left 4 Dead.
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There's some very simple steps to put in the dynamic lighting you see in L4D. But since you brought this up;

Hortz said:
Since Half Life 2 is the only proper game( a masterpiece really) Valve made in the last 6 years(Left4Dead, TF2, Portal are all flimsy arcadey onliney crap they keep peddling for money)
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you obviously want to discuss it in detail before we help you. Give us your full and detailed arguments for why you think these games aren't worthy, and we will help you after the debate is over.
 
People have been suggesting that Valve bring graphical improvements to Half-Life 2 ever since Lost Coast was out, and there's only been more call for it since the console Orange Boxes had this, but really I think there's not much point in doing it until (at the very least) Episode Three is out and they can bring back any further engine or graphics improvements from that to the original. If they apply the Orange Box updates to Half-Life 2 now they're just making extra work for themselves as when Episode Three is out people will want them to apply the new stuff back to Half-Life 2 again, as well as to Episodes One and Two.
 
Hortz said:
Since Half Life 2 is the only proper game( a masterpiece really) Valve made in the last 6 years(Left4Dead, TF2, Portal are all flimsy arcadey onliney crap they keep peddling for money)
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No.


Hortz said:
...is it possible to upgrade HL2 so it can have dynamic lighting and shadows like Left 4 Dead has, it really makes a huge difference as can be seen in Left 4 Dead.
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Yes, but Valve has more important things to work on, such as, to pick something at random, Episode 3.

A lot of us do want that, but it's not top priority.
 
Hey guys I'm going to unnecessarily cover my post with unpopular and unrelated opinions that are surely going to be attacked by everyone so that my question is ignored altogether and nobody wants to help me or be my friend!

Yay!
 
The Brick said:
Give us your full and detailed arguments for why you think these games aren't worthy.
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You mean how there is an incessant clipping issue in L4D, how you can see parts of zombies through doors and walls, how they levitate in the air, how there are no stairs-walking animations, how the entire structure of the game is just map with zombies spawning out of thin air, even when you look at that empty space they spawned out, how the weapon/motion animations are worse than Half Life 2. How other survivors carry flashlights but don't project light. How even the water and physics is far far inferior than in Half Life 2. How there is no continuation in the story, they even eliminated the movies between campaigns.
And so on and so on.

Portal
Experimental puzzle game in Half Life 2 engine, a side project, what's there to talk about?

TF2
Really? A multiplayer only game where like in all mp games you run around in circles until you are killed and then rinse and repeat? Seriously?

I AM APPALLED that I need to elucidate upon such blatantly obvious stuff and that your standards lowered so much since Half Life 2, not a single game even came close to HL2, but I guess they trained you well in having very low expectations(consoles, the bane of the gaming industry, contribute mostly in this).


Seriously, it is so f***ing obvious when one uses the term like "proper game", it is hard to believe that your deconstructive/extrapolative skills are so low. You just predictably fake it for the sake of faking.
 
But at least the gameplay in L4D is not revolved around clown closets(infinite spawning until magic invisible line is reached) like in COD4 and COD5:World at War, incredibly primitive linear gameplay, it makes me sick at seeing such regression in games.
So there's that.
 
Hortz, how old are you? Honestly. It sounds like you're just trying to sound smart. Why would you come to a VALVE GAME FAN FORUM to insult VALVE games?
 
Seriously? Ad hominems and "making fun of Valve games", no addressing content itself?
How old are you?
 
Explain to me your reasoning for:

"Hey guys I'm going to unnecessarily cover my post with unpopular and unrelated opinions that are surely going to be attacked by everyone so that my question is ignored altogether and nobody wants to help me or be my friend!"

And then maybe I'll consider that you calling us the stupid ones holds water.
 
Hortz said:
Seriously? Ad hominems and "making fun of Valve games", no addressing content itself?
How old are you?
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No avoiding the question, Sonny.
I'm addressing the content that you're using biased opinion and no actual fact to rip on valve games on a fan-forum for said valve games.
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This, essentially;
Vegeta897 said:
Explain to me your reasoning for:

"Hey guys I'm going to unnecessarily cover my post with unpopular and unrelated opinions that are surely going to be attacked by everyone so that my question is ignored altogether and nobody wants to help me or be my friend!"

And then maybe I'll consider that you calling us the stupid ones holds water.
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Vegeta897 said:
Explain to me your reasoning for:

"Hey guys I'm going to unnecessarily cover my post with unpopular and unrelated opinions that are surely going to be attacked by everyone so that my question is ignored altogether and nobody wants to help me or be my friend!"

And then maybe I'll consider that you calling us the stupid ones holds water.
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Well, it seemed obvious to me that disappointment about Valve not making proper games would be prevalent, even here, on fan forums, where there is usually a high level of cognitive dissonance.
What I didn't realize is that the audience of all Valve games is conjoined here despite the name of this forum being "Half Life...".
 
Look through the forum. Do you see people talking highly of L4D, TF2 and Portal? Yes? Okay, question answered.
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So I ask of you, HOW OLD ARE YOU?
 
His mother won't let him disclose personal information on the internet?
 
Hortz said:
Well, it seemed obvious to me that disappointment about Valve not making proper games would be prevalent
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Err, nonsense... all the games you mentioned were well received...
 
And they are exactly what they were meant to be. Maybe you just have no taste.

Did we scare him away?
 
Also upgrading Half Life 2 with L4D dynamic lighting and shadows would significantly prolong the longevity of HL2 since nobody even came close in making such a game anyway and it doesn't seem likely anyone will.

And L4D is in all areas(I listed some of them) except that one a huge downgrade from HL2. So it would be a colossal shame if it didn't have dynamic lighting and shadows, it really looks amazing and it pulls you in.
 
Hortz said:
TF2
Really? A multiplayer only game where like in all mp games you run around in circles until you are killed and then rinse and repeat? Seriously?
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Welcome to most FPS multiplayer games.

And so what if there's no singleplayer? If you don't like it, then don't buy it.

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It also sounds like you use a thesaurus for every other word you type. Just saying.
 
Hortz said:
Well, it seemed obvious to me that disappointment about Valve not making proper games would be prevalent, even here, on fan forums, where there is usually a high level of cognitive dissonance...
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Where is this dissapointment prevalent? Anywhere outside your brain? Apparently not. All these Game of the Year titles and multitude of varying awards and critical success might imply something... oh, I know! Maybe because the general consensus is that they are GREAT GAMES. ALL OF THEM! Still doesn't make sense? Allow me to clarify:

YOU ARE WRONG.


Hortz said:
Also upgrading Half Life 2 with L4D dynamic lighting and shadows would significantly prolong the longevity of HL2 since nobody even came close in making such a game anyway and it doesn't seem likely anyone will.
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Kinda like how Half-Life: Source totally did so much for prolonging Half-Life? Changing that sort of thing will give people who already own in and loved it another play-through, maybe two. Yes, we'd like it. We'd also like ValvE not to go bankrupt spending all their time doing things that generate no income whatsoever. Nobody is going to go buy HL2 because they're so excited about some lighting effects upgrades. Odds are, if they don't already own it, they'd have no idea anything ever got upgraded.


Hortz said:
And L4D is in all areas(I listed some of them) except that one a huge downgrade from HL2. So it would be a colossal shame if it didn't have dynamic lighting and shadows, it really looks amazing and it pulls you in.
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You are comparing a Single-Player game with a Multi-Player game. On top of that, your comparisions are mostly based on totally subjective opinion that goes against pretty much every other opinion of L4D. Hint: "Game of the Year Edition"


I have blessed you with a mature, well-thought response. I will probably cry when I find out how old you are.
 
I guess you are casual gamers who appreciate onliney arcadey repetitiveness with no story or narration or immersion.
And you just ignore everything I listed about how L4D is a huge downgrade even in technical areas. And then after ignoring all that you call my statements subjective.

Really mature...

P.S.
Oh, and sales of L4D doesn't have anything to do with huge amounts of money spent on marketing and plugging into popular zombie culture, of course.
 
Marketing is how games make money, yes. It was also because of the free demo released on XBL, and the demo on steam for the naysayers. Most of us aren't casual gamers, we prefer games with a solid base, fun mechanics (TF2), fun maps (for multiplayer) and all of the great single-player aspects you mentions.
 
Hortz said:
I guess you are casual gamers who appreciate onliney arcadey repetitiveness with no story or narration or immersion.
And you just ignore everything I listed about how L4D is a huge downgrade even in technical areas. And then after ignoring all that you call my statements subjective.

Really mature...

P.S.
Oh, and sales of L4D doesn't have anything to do with huge amounts of money spent on marketing and plugging into popular zombie culture, of course.
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I think I'm going to blindly accuse you of being a casual, because you like a game I don't.

And you're the one who decided to ask a question, and blend in your radical opinion on other stuff.

And if you're young, you're making a stupid mistake, no harm done. If you're older, say 20 years or greater, then you're being a narrow minded douche.
 
Hortz said:
Most people who play L4D haven't even heard about HL2, very sad state of affairs indeed. The stupification continues...
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As taviow said above, the orange box (including titles: Ep2, Portal and TF2) were extremely well received. It was renowned as one of the best bargain buys upon release, with new content still being added today. Portal is a gaming experience unlike any other, which will stay with people for many many years to come. Episode 2 provided an extension on the storyline arc which has left the community begging for more.

Half-life 2 was indeed the catalyst for Valve to burst back onto the seen with 'Source' however, in relation to what they have done since, HL2 is fairly middle of the road. It seems to be you are unable to adjust and understand how Valve prefer to make games. They have decided, gamers shouldn't have to wait 7 years for a sequel. It's time you realised these titles aren't minor stopgaps but major steps forward.

If you enjoy HL2 so much, I assume it is partially storyline related. News for you, Portal is connected to the Half-life universe. The orange box gave you 2 games to continue your Half-life thirst.

Left 4 Dead is a separate side to Valve, a new project to revitalise & shake up the games Valve provide. Also a major opportunity to break into the console market where more money can be made to allow Valve to grow and develop more games for the future. Hey...Valve is a business, how dare they have money making at their core? I mean, they must pay their employees money right? Or you don't get your games?

Your argument is tiresome and banal. If you consider these 'bit' games, I suggest you jump out the boat now. It's going to continue, it's extremely successful and well received. It's developing a major community for PC & 360 and oh wow most people are looking forward to it. I suggest you stop buying Valve games, and leave us to have the fun.

p.s. I know you won't stop. You'll be back soon enough you spoilt git!
 
jet_porkins said:
Hortz is the Gman.
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That's an interesting theory you got there. I have to investigate this through the cunning use of photoshop.

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Holy shit! It's true!
 
Hortz said:
I guess you are casual gamers who appreciate onliney arcadey repetitiveness with no story or narration or immersion.
And you just ignore everything I listed about how L4D is a huge downgrade even in technical areas. And then after ignoring all that you call my statements subjective.
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Yes... the casual gamers are the ones who actually se depth in what you consider "arcadey" and consistently contribute to an active game forum. WRONG!

I suggest you look at the Portal section and see the immersion and narration you have so far been unable to see. Do you actually own it?

Ummm... as a rule, if something is "technical", it isn't totally subjective, which your comments are.



Hortz said:
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Oh, and sales of L4D doesn't have anything to do with huge amounts of money spent on marketing and plugging into popular zombie culture, of course.
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And again, marketing doesn't get you a crapload of awards.
 
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