US bans Medical Marijuana

[Foxtrot]

i'll back you up man, so you don't like weed? its ok, after all, it is a drug, and DRUGS ARE BAD

Damn right.

 

[CptStern]

Damn right.

:upstare: but the SUV your pappy drives is much better for you ...the nasal spray that is made from a derivitive of cocaine is good for you ...the percocet that will give you psychosis after prolonged use ...is good for you. Lets stuff our kids full of drugs that will make them angry, stunt their growth and destroy their liver ...but god forbid we try something that is natually grown ...because that's what god-fearing people do :upstare: ...sophistication of a garden gnome

 

[Foxtrot]

:upstare: but the SUV your pappy drives is much better for you ...the nasal spray that is made from a derivitive of cocaine is good for you ...the percocet that will give you psychosis after prolonged use ...is good for you. Lets stuff our kids full of drugs that will make them angry, stunt their growth and destroy their liver ...but god forbid we try something that is natually grown ...because that's what god-fearing people do :upstare: ...sophistication of a garden gnome

Sounds like you had a very angry childhood.

 

[CptStern]

yes a 17 month old and another one on the way ...oh and I had a very happy childhood ..still have a great relationship with my parents ...we agree on politics :E

 

[Foxtrot]

yes a 17 month old and another one on the way ...oh and I had a very happy childhood ..still have a great relationship with my parents ...we agree on politics :E

Oh so that is why you are so messed up, you were brainwashed by your parents

 

[T.H.C.138]

holy crap...with you on this one Stern..

if you don't smoke fine but why ruin someone elses life? that is what I wish you (Foxtrot) would give up,not your morals..

but why should I give up mine? let me and whoever else wants to smoke, and as long as we don't beat people or commit REAL crimes, STFU..

drugs are MANMADE chemical substances..weed is a PLANT not manmade...sooo..drug? don't think so!

 

[CptStern]

alright foxtrot enough about my family ..attack me all you want, but keep my family out of it

...hopefully you dont do that in real life ...cuz that's a sure way of getting your face kicked in

 

[DarkStar]

Good God.....there are so many drugs out there 10 times as powerful and 10 times as addictive as weed that are prescribed on a regular basis.

Oxycontin anybody?

This ban is just another in the long line of laws and court descisions influenced by misguided historical assumptions associated with marijuana use and users.

 

[Ennui]

I will not even post in this thread beyond saying "look in the threads where Burner and Absinthe and I have posted about pot."

This is the stupidest ****ing thing I've ever heard. Now I'm going to be pissed for a while.

 

[DarkStar]

lol^ stern are u going to allow ur kids to smoke pot? as long as they try it on their own first? are u going to smoke with them once their say past 18? My dad smokes, and he lets me smoke in the house. But he wont smoke with me...

Haha.....my Dad an I had the same arrangement for quite awhile.

Then we both quit.

 

[CptStern]

lol^ stern are u going to allow ur kids to smoke pot? as long as they try it on their own first? are u going to smoke with them once their say past 18? My dad smokes, and he lets me smoke in the house. But he wont smoke with me...

I'll cross that bridge when I get there

 

[JellyWorld]

Cigars do more harm then marijuana, and yet they are legal. Why, because the tabaco famrers and companies lobbied it. Simply put, you people suck ass.

Sources? (Not saying you're wrong, I just want sources).

 

[diluted]

I think this will end up benefitting the pro-marijuana lobby in the end. As soon as some asshole cop hauls a dying cancer patient off to jail for smoking a joint, everyone will see how ****ing stupid this whole thing is.
Or maybe not, seeing as how that's happened in teh past already.

 

[MilkMan12]

Ahh good...if there were a way that we could keep close watch on this I would be all for it. But the government would never waste time and money on such a thing. So Im sorry but I dont trust anyone to grow weed in their own house...use it responsibly (which is not possible since its a drug and does as much bad as it does good). Not to mention who knows where they are getting it from and what kind of people they are funding by buying it from them. Keep this ruling and enforce it.

By the way cops cant arrest people for this at all. The laws in the state still exist, the law in Cali didnt change...its still legal. But they have no protection from the federal government, and their suppliers will get owned...big time.

 

[DarkStar]

Cigars do more harm then marijuana, and yet they are legal. Why, because the tabaco famrers and companies lobbied it. Simply put, you people suck ass.

Well yeah, if you inhale a f*ckin' cigar it'll do more damage than marijuana. Inhaling that shit's like breathing in fiberglass vapor.

That's why you don't inhale when you smoke a cigar.

 

[Gargantou]

I'll just jump into this convo after having read it, I don't do drugs, and don't intend on it, albeit I might because I think each life experience, bad or good, makes you a more "complete" person.
Anyway, I think, marijuana SHOULD be legal, ofcourse not for minors and imo the government should always check IDs when they sell'em, I don't live in the US so I don't really know how they handle things like alcohol and shiet like that there, but here in Sweden, you can buy anything pretty easily if you just LOOK old.

I mean, shouldn't adult people have the right to chose themselves?
I think it's a matter of freedom of choice.

 

[jondy]

I mean, shouldn't adult people have the right to chose themselves?
I think it's a matter of freedom of choice.

The argument most people apply to this concerns the legalization of drugs a step up the ladder; does 'freedom of choice' include amphet or morphine derivatives?

I don't really know where to stand on this issue, as it's insanely complicated, but it's something to think about.

 

[Gargantou]

The argument most people apply to this concerns the legalization of drugs a step up the ladder; does 'freedom of choice' include amphet or morphine derivatives?

I don't really know where to stand on this issue, as it's insanely complicated, but it's something to think about.

True, because like, the "freedom of choice" argument could also be used to make -harmful- drugs legal, as you said, it -is- a really complicated issue.

 

[Raziaar]

Why don't all you hippies go smoke some Oleander. Its all natural too! Smoke some Oleander and call me in the morning.

 

[CptStern]

Ahh good...if there were a way that we could keep close watch on this I would be all for it. But the government would never waste time and money on such a thing.

many countries governments already do this ...like canada for example ..it's regulated

So Im sorry but I dont trust anyone to grow weed in their own house...use it responsibly

that's where your wrong ...growing weed in your own home isnt easy ...first of all if you just stick a seed in the earth you'll probably get nothing ..it has to be controled in terms of nutrients etc to ensure that the THC content is high ...otherwise you get a non-potent strain of hemp ...pretty much worthless

(which is not possible since its a drug and does as much bad as it does good). Not to mention who knows where they are getting it from and what kind of people they are funding by buying it from them. Keep this ruling and enforce it.

again ..ignorance ...pot is not a money making drug ...you literally have to sell it by the pound to turn a big profit ..ever see how many plants are needed for a single pound? ...not something you can do in your closet. Most "dealers" I've met are college students trying to supplement their income ..or professionals who sell it to their friends

 

[MilkMan12]

Stern can you tell me where your getting the info that says people who sell pot make no money at all?

Also I dont care how hard it is to grow it doesnt mean that it will be protected and used responsibly.

Thats great that other countries waste cash to regulate a drug on top of the other ones (alcohol, cigs, and medications etc.) but the US simply wont do it. That was my point...so since the US wont do it Im sorry but I cannot trust that these people and their suppliers will be resonsible enough with their weed.

Once again you wont see too many prosectutions, or any at all of people who are deathly sick smoking weed. It wont happen...probably 1 at most, but mostly it will be the suppliers or just no one at all. It is still legal in California to smoke weed for medicinal purposes.

Plus if your sick to the point where weed will just keep you alive a little longer I dont think you are living at all. I know Im not to judge but seriously, who the hell wants to live without being able to do anything but smoke weed to take some pain away. But there are people like that...so stern dont just retort this part of my argument like you do with all my other ones lol...you only retort the unimportant side notes instead of my main argument.

If these people want it so badly they should move to Canada.

 

[Foxtrot]

Some guy I worked with (kind of friends) sold pot, he made TONS of money. The only reason he didnt have a lot of money is because he spent it all on alcohol, and his car. He has a $25,000 car and he just graduated from high school, making $6.00/hour at the movie theater part time.

 

[CptStern]

Stern can you tell me where your getting the info that says people who sell pot make no money at all?

errrr common sense? very few dealers grow their own pot as you need a big chunk of land that has direct sunlight for most of the day ...a typical pot plant is between 5-7 feet tall, not exactly something easy to hide amongst the tomatoes in your garden

Also I dont care how hard it is to grow it doesnt mean that it will be protected and used responsibly.

again you're speaking from ignorance. Medicinal marijuana is by PRESCRIPTION only ..regulated and controled by the government, grown on government farms

Thats great that other countries waste cash to regulate a drug on top of the other ones

such an ignorant statement. So I guess you believe that people should do hard time for simple possession

(alcohol, cigs, and medications etc.) but the US simply wont do it. That was my point...so since the US wont do it Im sorry but I cannot trust that these people and their suppliers will be resonsible enough with their weed.

:upstare: if it's medicinal and regulated it's under the same guidelines as any other drug ..it has to pass FDA approval

Once again you wont see too many prosectutions, or any at all of people who are deathly sick smoking weed.

this statement more than anything shows how little you know about medicinal marijuana ..it's not a preventative or a pain reliever ...you take it in some cases to ease nausea so that a person undergoing chemotherapy can eat ...it stimulates the appetite

Plus if your sick to the point where weed will just keep you alive a little longer I dont think you are living at all.

see above, that's NOT what marijuana does

I know Im not to judge but seriously, who the hell wants to live without being able to do anything but smoke weed to take some pain away.

it's NOT a pain reliever, you're thinking Morphine or heroine

But there are people like that...so stern dont just retort this part of my argument like you do with all my other ones lol...you only retort the unimportant side notes instead of my main argument.

I think I've answered your main points

If these people want it so badly they should move to Canada.

along with the homosexuals who want to get married, the awols, those who are tired of all the religious crap, the reasonable people who voted "anything but bush" etc ...pretty soon canada will have more americans than the US does

 

[MilkMan12]

Ahh where should I start...first of all stop being an asshole when you debate me in this thread...I didnt call you names I would appreciate it if you started acted a little bit more mature instead of saying "such an ignorant..." 50 times.

Anyway lets start.

errrr common sense? very few dealers grow their own pot as you need a big chunk of land that has direct sunlight for most of the day ...a typical pot plant is between 5-7 feet tall, not exactly something easy to hide amongst the tomatoes in your garden

Common sense my ass #1...#2 If you trace the godamn pot you will find its coming from a lot more places than you are convincing yourself to believe...its extremely naiive to say that the pot is all grown on government farms (by the way can I have proof of this? I never heard about this Im interested no sarcasm) and even more naiive to say that dealers make no cash off of pot. First look at the post before yours...next I know many people who sell pot and make a lot of cash. (by the way naiive doesnt have as negative a connotation as ignorant so Im using it...if it offends you let me know)

Medicinal marijuana is by PRESCRIPTION only ..regulated and controled by the government, grown on government farms

What ferry tale world do you live in man? You would be surprised how many "sick" people have prescribed marijuana...and how much of it is not regulated and controlled by the government. Its impossible to track a plant down to its owner.

The fact of the matter is...these sick people, how can they keep the pot safe from other people around them? So no stealing goes on and no selling so they make more money to move to Canada (sarcasm). I dont trust the people they get it from and I dont trust the people who have it.

if it's medicinal and regulated it's under the same guidelines as any other drug ..it has to pass FDA approval

Things are sooo simple in your world...forget about bearocracy and taxes. It costs money to fund the TRACKING (meaning FOLLOW) of these drugs. It will cost money to keep tabs on everyone who has the pot...keep tabs on the shipments...keep tabs on these farms you speak of. It all costs a lot of ****ing money. Im sorry but I rather the money we spend on pot go to our public schools stern...why do you want to work so hard and spend so much money just so that these 200 people in the US can have their pot. Its a bunch of bullshit...the US cannot bend over backwards for each ****ing citizen...it cant happen. We would all like to think it does but it doesnt.

this statement more than anything shows how little you know about medicinal marijuana ..it's not a preventative or a pain reliever ...you take it in some cases to ease nausea so that a person undergoing chemotherapy can eat ...it stimulates the appetite

If you read the supreme courts case...including all outside opinions and the situation (like I have...Im not saying you should but I read the whole 300 page document which is probably even larger now (with the final opinions). So dont say I dont know anything about this) you will see that most cases use it as a pain reliever.

4 doctors said that if they dont use it they will DIE. Yes those exact ****ing words are in the document.

If you want it I think its at supremecourtpapers.com or something like that I forget...I lost the packet cause I finished it. Yes 3 doctors said it was for Nasea (spelling?) as well so Im not saying your wrong...but you have very narrow knowledge on the subject which is OK because not everyone here can read all that shit.

So all in all...I cannot trust that the weed will be grown and used responsibly without the government getting involved. I do not want the US to spend millions of dollars a month maybe more to make this possible.

As for you shadow that was a terribly written post and I have no godamn clue what you are talking about so Ill just assume you are saying the same thing stern is saying.

As for feds showing up at your door its not gonna happen...they have much more important things to worry about. As for the prosecution of their suppliers and of course some (like 1 or 2) of the actual users will happen. Its a very proffesional ordeal and its completely painless...they wont do hard time for this. They wont do time for this at all.

Even if there are government farms with once again I truthfull do not know of and would like proof of this I still stand by most of my arguments as most of them have nothing to do with the government farms. It has to do with once the pot is off the farm.

 

[MilkMan12]

Ahh where should I start...first of all stop being an asshole when you debate me in this thread...I didnt call you names I would appreciate it if you started acted a little bit more mature instead of saying "such an ignorant..." 50 times.

Anyway lets start.

errrr common sense? very few dealers grow their own pot as you need a big chunk of land that has direct sunlight for most of the day ...a typical pot plant is between 5-7 feet tall, not exactly something easy to hide amongst the tomatoes in your garden

Common sense my ass #1...#2 If you trace the godamn pot you will find its coming from a lot more places than you are convincing yourself to believe...its extremely naiive to say that the pot is all grown on government farms (by the way can I have proof of this? I never heard about this Im interested no sarcasm) and even more naiive to say that dealers make no cash off of pot. First look at the post before yours...next I know many people who sell pot and make a lot of cash. (by the way naiive doesnt have as negative a connotation as ignorant so Im using it...if it offends you let me know)

Medicinal marijuana is by PRESCRIPTION only ..regulated and controled by the government, grown on government farms

What ferry tale world do you live in man? You would be surprised how many "sick" people have prescribed marijuana...and how much of it is not regulated and controlled by the government. Its impossible to track a plant down to its owner.

The fact of the matter is...these sick people, how can they keep the pot safe from other people around them? So no stealing goes on and no selling so they make more money to move to Canada (sarcasm). I dont trust the people they get it from and I dont trust the people who have it.

if it's medicinal and regulated it's under the same guidelines as any other drug ..it has to pass FDA approval

Things are sooo simple in your world...forget about bearocracy and taxes. It costs money to fund the TRACKING (meaning FOLLOW) of these drugs. It will cost money to keep tabs on everyone who has the pot...keep tabs on the shipments...keep tabs on these farms you speak of. It all costs a lot of ****ing money. Im sorry but I rather the money we spend on pot go to our public schools stern...why do you want to work so hard and spend so much money just so that these 200 people in the US can have their pot. Its a bunch of bullshit...the US cannot bend over backwards for each ****ing citizen...it cant happen. We would all like to think it does but it doesnt.

this statement more than anything shows how little you know about medicinal marijuana ..it's not a preventative or a pain reliever ...you take it in some cases to ease nausea so that a person undergoing chemotherapy can eat ...it stimulates the appetite

If you read the supreme courts case...including all outside opinions and the situation (like I have...Im not saying you should but I read the whole 300 page document which is probably even larger now (with the final opinions). So dont say I dont know anything about this) you will see that most cases use it as a pain reliever.

4 doctors said that if they dont use it they will DIE. Yes those exact ****ing words are in the document.

If you want it I think its at supremecourtpapers.com or something like that I forget...I lost the packet cause I finished it. Yes 3 doctors said it was for Nasea (spelling?) as well so Im not saying your wrong...but you have very narrow knowledge on the subject which is OK because not everyone here can read all that shit.

So all in all...I cannot trust that the weed will be grown and used responsibly without the government getting involved. I do not want the US to spend millions of dollars a month maybe more to make this possible.

As for you shadow that was a terribly written post and I have no godamn clue what you are talking about so Ill just assume you are saying the same thing stern is saying.

As for feds showing up at your door its not gonna happen...they have much more important things to worry about. As for the prosecution of their suppliers and of course some (like 1 or 2) of the actual users will happen. Its a very proffesional ordeal and its completely painless...they wont do hard time for this. They wont do time for this at all.

Even if there are government farms with once again I truthfull do not know of and would like proof of this I still stand by most of my arguments as most of them have nothing to do with the government farms. It has to do with once the pot is off the farm.

By the way I ignored the first thing cause I didnt understand what you were getting at with the fact that pot can easily be seen.

 

[burner69]

Yes, I suck ass. Thank you for the insight, but shouldn't you be ****ing up your country more? Making Amsterdam more of a wasteland?

Okaaaay here we go.

Wasteland eh? Judging by your high moral values, which just so happen to conflict with moral sense and run directly with the governments ideals, I presume Amsterdam is a wasteland because pot is legal there? Okay... let's check that out.
...
Nope, Holland infact has extremely low crime rate, same can't be said about much of the US, and...erm... oh... oh ho ho ho... ur gonna love this Foxy baby, Holland has a far lower amount of drug use than much of europe, and of course in the hardcore prohibition country, good ole Uncle Sam Land.

So, why is cannabis illegal?
Well various reasons, probably all of which contribute to it being illegal today.

1. After thousands of years of cannabis use throughout much of human society, in the early 20th century in America Mexicans, who the Americans didn't like, were smoking weed... white folks didn't much like their customs, and so made it illegal, which just so happened to result in many, many Mexicans getting arrested for doing something they'd always done with no problems.

2. Well, with that law being enforced by hard-ass anti-weed Harry J. Anslinger he did a bit of bullsh*tting to Joe public. Films and documentaries were released that portrayed cannabis as having the power to turn a perfectly sane human being, almost instantly, into a derranged psychopathic killers. That's why your gran probably isn't too keen on the idea of cannabis, and wherein lies the deeprooted hatred of weed found in our societies

3. When people started smoking weed and realised that this whole "psycho killer" thing was a steaming pile of crap, Anslinger made something else up to scare people away; that it would get you on heroin. There are many ways of looking at this; First, that while many people on heroin have tried cannabis, they have also tried alcohol, and the idea that they wouldn't have tried one without the other is shakey at best. Would I have tried weed without drinking first? Possibily. If I took heroin would I try it without trying weed first? Possibily. The only clear link with cannabis and heroin is that they are both bought from drug dealers, and so with 50% of the UK pop. (and a similar proportion of US folk) having tried cannabis, surely it would make sense to legalise it to move this huge number of people away from genuinely harmful drugs like heroin. Even so, I know a hell of a lot of people who smoke dope, and only one has tried heroin, and that was once. I also know a lot of people who dont smoke weed (you'd hope so wouldn't you?) and one of those started on heroin in a big way, and died. Basically what I'm saying is, weed use = heroin use = BS.

4. Nowadays, people are not willing to have a reasonable argument about drugs because they have it hammered into their skulls at such a young age that "drugs are bad" they simply cannot handle it when people come along with scientfic studies and say "hold on... actually... not THAT bad really, not worth locking people up for."
You people cannot handle it.
"No, it's totally immoral, evil, against all Jesus taught! We must arrest and lock up all drug users because they are a pestilence on this land."
Nobody's interested in the facts.
Nobody's interested in thinking things through (if we arrested all drug users we'd just be one big prison).
Nobody's interested in comparisons, such as harmful effects of weed and beer, or the chances of dying when getting into a car or taking ectasy.
It's just "drugs are bad, end them at all costs."

Here's a little gem for ya Foxtrot

In 1970 there were 9000 convictions or cautions for drug offences in the UK and 15% of young people had used an illegal drug. In 1995 the figures were 94 000 and 45%. Prohibition doesn't work.

 

[T.H.C.138]

so we should waste money trying to track down all the plants?

to my knowledge the majority of suppliers for the medical pot shops are volunteers who actually take a loss selling/DONATING to the clinics,they have to get a license to distribute a controlled substance..

I would rather see weed legal for the fact that it will help the economy..if handled right..illegal drug sales go into the dealers pocket,or for more product/weapons..yeah keep it illegal,makes tons of sense..

take away the dealers profits by providing a legal means of acquiring weed,also creating a safer place to get it besides an alley-way,cuts down on crimes associated with weed,the weed is guaranteed to not be laced with anything(believe me THAT is not fun) and we know that the money will go to something more worthwhile than some $9,000 entertainment center for a suburban we will most likely never ride in!

and also saving time and money in the courts..why spend the thousands of dollars it takes to prosecute some poor kid who got caught with a $20 bag of weed? now if the person was a non-licensed distributer,carrying many pounds across state lines,that is a different story

bottom line is that adults should have the right to choose what they do to themselves,as long as it isn't hurting others..

EDIT: Burner69 preach the good word my brother from a different mother!!! calmly explaining away the lies and myths associated with mary jane,GJ!!

 

[Absinthe]

Burner is my knight in shining armor.

 

[Foxtrot]

Okaaaay here we go.

Wasteland eh? Judging by your high moral values, which just so happen to conflict with moral sense and run directly with the governments ideals, I presume Amsterdam is a wasteland because pot is legal there? Okay... let's check that out.
...
Nope, Holland infact has extremely low crime rate, same can't be said about much of the US, and...erm... oh... oh ho ho ho... ur gonna love this Foxy baby, Holland has a far lower amount of drug use than much of europe, and of course in the hardcore prohibition country, good ole Uncle Sam Land.

So, why is cannabis illegal?
Well various reasons, probably all of which contribute to it being illegal today.

1. After thousands of years of cannabis use throughout much of human society, in the early 20th century in America Mexicans, who the Americans didn't like, were smoking weed... white folks didn't much like their customs, and so made it illegal, which just so happened to result in many, many Mexicans getting arrested for doing something they'd always done with no problems.

2. Well, with that law being enforced by hard-ass anti-weed Harry J. Anslinger he did a bit of bullsh*tting to Joe public. Films and documentaries were released that portrayed cannabis as having the power to turn a perfectly sane human being, almost instantly, into a derranged psychopathic killers. That's why your gran probably isn't too keen on the idea of cannabis, and wherein lies the deeprooted hatred of weed found in our societies

3. When people started smoking weed and realised that this whole "psycho killer" thing was a steaming pile of crap, Anslinger made something else up to scare people away; that it would get you on heroin. There are many ways of looking at this; First, that while many people on heroin have tried cannabis, they have also tried alcohol, and the idea that they wouldn't have tried one without the other is shakey at best. Would I have tried weed without drinking first? Possibily. If I took heroin would I try it without trying weed first? Possibily. The only clear link with cannabis and heroin is that they are both bought from drug dealers, and so with 50% of the UK pop. (and a similar proportion of US folk) having tried cannabis, surely it would make sense to legalise it to move this huge number of people away from genuinely harmful drugs like heroin. Even so, I know a hell of a lot of people who smoke dope, and only one has tried heroin, and that was once. I also know a lot of people who dont smoke weed (you'd hope so wouldn't you?) and one of those started on heroin in a big way, and died. Basically what I'm saying is, weed use = heroin use = BS.

4. Nowadays, people are not willing to have a reasonable argument about drugs because they have it hammered into their skulls at such a young age that "drugs are bad" they simply cannot handle it when people come along with scientfic studies and say "hold on... actually... not THAT bad really, not worth locking people up for."
You people cannot handle it.
"No, it's totally immoral, evil, against all Jesus taught! We must arrest and lock up all drug users because they are a pestilence on this land."
Nobody's interested in the facts.
Nobody's interested in thinking things through (if we arrested all drug users we'd just be one big prison).
Nobody's interested in comparisons, such as harmful effects of weed and beer, or the chances of dying when getting into a car or taking ectasy.
It's just "drugs are bad, end them at all costs."

Here's a little gem for ya Foxtrot

In 1970 there were 9000 convictions or cautions for drug offences in the UK and 15% of young people had used an illegal drug. In 1995 the figures were 94 000 and 45%. Prohibition doesn't work.

I don't even know how to respond to this, I didn't mean to be taken too seriously. I agree with legalising it, and I think alcohol, marijauna, and tabacco are all terrible drugs.

 

[Foxtrot]

i agree that alcohol and tobacco are terrible, but marijuna is far from it... how can it be terrible? it has never killed a single soul.

It may have not directly killed in a single person, in the same way that AIDs has never killed anyone.

 

[jondy]

It may have not directly killed in a single person, in the same way that AIDs has never killed anyone.

You can't chuck this kindof speculation around without stuff to back you up, Foxtrot, it just doesn't wash.

 

[Foxtrot]

http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/01pot-related.htm

 

[Absinthe]

http://www.briancbennett.com/charts/death/01pot-related.htm

"The tables below are a compilation of all 2001 mortality records that make any mention whatever about cannabis. They clearly show that marijuana is implicated in an extremely low number of deaths, and more importantly, that those deaths run a wide gamut of the multitude of the ways in which humans ultimately expire -- indeed the relationship appears fairly random. These numbers in no way support the notion that marijuana is playing a major role in disrupting the fabric of American health, or society at large."

 

[Foxtrot]

"The tables below are a compilation of all 2001 mortality records that make any mention whatever about cannabis. They clearly show that marijuana is implicated in an extremely low number of deaths, and more importantly, that those deaths run a wide gamut of the multitude of the ways in which humans ultimately expire -- indeed the relationship appears fairly random. These numbers in no way support the notion that marijuana is playing a major role in disrupting the fabric of American health, or society at large."

Still it shows deaths, and it is from a pro site.

 

[brink's]

It may have not directly killed in a single person, in the same way that AIDs has never killed anyone.

If you get aids YOU WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!! Yes from a cold etc. but if you didn't have aids, you probably wouldve lived longer....

The same can't be said for weed. Really, have you ever smoked pot? or known someone who's done it? Its not as bad as you may think.

 

[Foxtrot]

If you get aids YOU WILL DIE!!!!!!!!!! Yes from a cold etc. but if you didn't have aids, you probably wouldve lived longer....

The same can't be said for weed. Really, have you ever smoked pot? or known someone who's done it? Its not as bad as you may think.

No, I have never smoked and never will, and I know lots of people who have.

 

[Absinthe]

Still it shows deaths, and it is from a pro site.

It shows no direct relationship between marijuana and mortality. It said (and I quote again) "marijuana is implicated in an extremely low number of deaths". An implication that's substantiated by scattershot figures that effectively show absolutely nothing. I could replace marijuana with butter and get the same kind of results, possibly more dire.

 

[Raziaar]

No, I have never smoked and never will, and I know lots of people who have.

Its funny though... how every user tries to pressure their peers to try it, though.

 

[Absinthe]

Its funny though... how every user tries to pressure their peers to try it, though.

Every user? Nice generalization. All attempts to pressure people to smoke/drink on my part have always been of a facetious nature. On the whole, I've not met any more people pressuring others into drug use than I have people that are constantly bitching and nagging about my recreational substance usage.

 

[Foxtrot]

Every user? Nice generalization. All attempts to pressure people to smoke/drink on my part have always been of a facetious nature. On the whole, I've not met any more people pressuring others into drug use than I have people that are constantly bitching and nagging about my recreational substance usage.

Everyone always asks me why, and then I explain to them, and they tell me to try it sometime.