US: bring me the head of osama packed in ice

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ah barbarism is alive and well


"When we break the Taliban, your job is to capture bin Laden, kill him and bring his head back in a box full of dry ice."

"It was the first time in 30 years with the CIA he had been ordered to set out to kill a target rather than try to bring them in alive"


anyone else think that killing bin laden is a mistake? you'll just make a martyr of him ..the best thing to do IMHO is arrest him and try him in an INTERNATIONAL court ..let him rot in a jail but killing him would be a BIG mistake
 
nope it'll prove to people not too mess with america (like on 9/11)

at least they wont be having some cozy seat in a five star hotel like some anti-war people want him too have.

he can do justice
 
KoreBolteR said:
nope it'll prove to people not too mess with america (like on 9/11)

at least they wont be having some cozy seat in a five star hotel like some anti-war people want him too have.

he can do justice

9/11 proved NOT to mess with america? I think the opposite is true


you want to point to ANY anti-war people who want him to have a 5 star prison cell?
 
These terrorists don't care what will happen to them, do you think the guys in the planes thought they had a chance of surviving. Death to these people means nothing. If you convict them in a court it sends a message, that terrorism is a crime that the world will not sit back and let happen. If you kill him, more will be recruited in to fill his place. But then, maybe thats what they want to happen. More excuses to start more wars.
 
CptStern said:
9/11 proved NOT to mess with america? I think the opposite is true


you want to point to ANY anti-war people who want him to have a 5 star prison cell?

no, i meant if osamas head was in ice....lol

im just saying some people think he should be treated like a human being, when hes not a human being, hes a monster, he deserves all he gets IMO.
 
heh, its kind of amusing in a sick way. Not a good idea to kill him though.
 
i think he needs to be tried, and possibly have him trade info for his life, we cant make him a martyr.

his captrue will probably spur a ton of attacks, and when he is in jail, many hostages will be taken to try and free him.

that is, if we find him at all :)
 
KoreBolteR said:
no, i meant if osamas head was in ice....lol

im just saying some people think he should be treated like a human being, when hes not a human being, hes a monster, he deserves all he gets IMO.

what about the people that were responsible for the deaths of 500,000 iraqi children? are they monsters? should they be deserving of humane treatment? ...btw one of the architects of the deaths of iraqs children was GW 's father
 
CptStern said:
what about the people that were responsible for the deaths of 500,000 iraqi children? are they monsters? should they be deserving of humane treatment? ...btw one of the architects of the deaths of iraqs children was GW 's father

i dont see how you can give me that 'evidence'..

how do you actually know...

anyway, its different, osama intendid to kill innocent people, GW's father intendid to kill Terrorists and former saddam regime members.(who you cant really call 'innocent people')
 
KoreBolteR said:
i dont see how you can give me that 'evidence'..

how do you actually know...

anyway, its different, osama intendid to kill innocent people, GW's father intendid to kill Terrorists and former saddam regime members.(who you cant really call 'innocent people')

I've given you plenty of evidence ..it's from the US government ..it's indisputable


what terrorists? there were no terrorists during saddam's time ..he took care of that. Oh and GW's father DID intend to kill children ..the US government documents are quite clear who their target was
 
Shoot him in the head.The agent was just making new troops orders perfectly clear. Barbarism? Haha what do you call hacking peoples heads off in the name of your god?
 
gh0st said:
Shoot him in the head.The agent was just making new troops orders perfectly clear. Barbarism? Haha what do you call hacking peoples heads off in the name of your god?

you think it's bad now? what do you think will happen if he's killed in an american operation? attacks on americans will be ten-fold. If they had actually done this days after 9/11 and sent in a hit squad to take him out none of this would have happened ...sorry but I'm convinced the bush admin couldnt care less about the victems of 9/11, if they did they would have made bringing osama to justice their number 1 priority ...instead they took a side trip into iraq ...that had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11
 
CptStern said:
you think it's bad now? what do you think will happen if he's killed in an american operation? attacks on americans will be ten-fold. If they had actually done this days after 9/11 and sent in a hit squad to take him out none of this would have happened ...sorry but I'm convinced the bush admin couldnt care less about the victems of 9/11, if they did they would have made bringing osama to justice their number 1 priority ...instead they took a side trip into iraq ...that had absolutely NOTHING to do with 9/11
Problem is though I don't really know if the attacks will increase anymore than if he is captured instead. There will probably be a huge increase in hostage situations world wide if he is captured.

Leave him free and he will continue to cause problems for the US. Kill him and he will become a martyr which will result in more destructive attacks. Capture him and it will result in more hostage situations. Either way it doesn't look good.
 
The Mullinator said:
Problem is though I don't really know if the attacks will increase anymore than if he is captured instead. There will probably be a huge increase in hostage situations world wide if he is captured.

Leave him free and he will continue to cause problems for the US. Kill him and he will become a martyr which will result in more destructive attacks. Capture him and it will result in more hostage situations. Either way it doesn't look good.

I agree ...they really didnt plan this out very welll ...had I been in charge I would have sent in a small team to take him out quietly ..end of problem
 
Foxtrot said:
Let them attack, we will kill all of them.

sure you will ...all it takes is a handful of people to slip under the radar once
 
CptStern said:
sure you will ...all it takes is a handful of people to slip under the radar once
It won't happen again, with the patriot act and other essential tools we now have we can effectivley combat terrorists.
 
Foxtrot said:
It won't happen again, with the patriot act and other essential tools we now have we can effectivley combat terrorists.


hahahahhahahahahhahahah is that why terrorist activities have increased three-fold since the war on terror began? real effective there ...oh and hows the hunt for osama going? you cant even catch a handful of men hiding like rats what makes you think you'll be able to effectively defend yourself ..not just now, but for the next decade, and the one after that, and the one after that ...there are generations of terrorists being bred because of the war in iraq ..so far your best efforts havent even made a dent
 
CptStern said:
hahahahhahahahahhahahah is that why terrorist activities have increased three-fold since the war on terror began? real effective there ...oh and hows the hunt for osama going? you cant even catch a handful of men hiding like rats what makes you think you'll be able to effectively defend yourself ..not just now, but for the next decade, and the one after that, and the one after that ...there are generations of terrorists being bred because of the war in iraq ..so far your best efforts havent even made a dent
There hasn't been a single death since 9/11 due to a terrorist attack in the US. Iraq is a war, when we are activley fighting terrorist in their land you would expect terrorist attack to increase it is just comming sense.
 
CptStern said:
I agree ...they really didnt plan this out very welll ...had I been in charge I would have sent in a small team to take him out quietly ..end of problem

And you would've failed.
 
CptStern said:
I agree ...they really didnt plan this out very welll ...had I been in charge I would have sent in a small team to take him out quietly ..end of problem
Indeed. Mind you there is one option they still have, and I am beggining to think this is what they are actually doing.

You can't capture or kill him, so instead subdue him to the point he can't plan or cause any attacks. I wouldn't be surprised if they could capture or kill him anytime they want right now but are instead harassing him to the point where he has been rendered useless. He can't let the world know he is now just a chew toy of the US, and the US can't let it be known they are doing it since it would make both the left and right angry at the government.
 
Foxtrot said:
There hasn't been a single death since 9/11 due to a terrorist attack in the US. Iraq is a war, when we are activley fighting terrorist in their land you would expect terrorist attack to increase it is just comming sense.

I believe the anthrax thing a few years back killed a couple of people. By definition, it was a terrorist attack. Therefore, there have been deaths due to a terrorist attack in the US since 9/11. Unrelated to Al-Quada, but an attack nonetheless.
 
I think at the time (immedietely after 9/11) it wouldn't have been an entirely bad move. If it could be proven that the US could strike back so swiftly and precisely when someone attacks it, then it would be a rather powerful form of intimidation.

But here and now its better to try and get him alive, precisely because he'd be a martyr.
 
staticprimer said:
I believe the anthrax thing a few years back killed a couple of people. By definition, it was a terrorist attack. Therefore, there have been deaths due to a terrorist attack in the US since 9/11. Unrelated to Al-Quada, but an attack nonetheless.
I don't think anyone died in that, and if it was it was a single person.
 
Foxtrot said:
Let them attack, we will kill all of them.

Sorry, but it's that kind of rowdy texas cowboy attitude that gives us americans a bad reputation in the rest of the world.
 
Zeus said:
Sorry, but it's that kind of rowdy texas cowboy attitude that gives us americans a bad reputation in the rest of the world.
Its not an attitude, its a fact.
 
anyone else think that killing bin laden is a mistake? you'll just make a martyr of him ..the best thing to do IMHO is arrest him and try him in an INTERNATIONAL court ..let him rot in a jail but killing him would be a BIG mistake

Nah, killing him would be a service, not a mistake. However, I do agree that bringing him in alive would be better. We could march him all over TV and gain tons of publicity. Then, when the time is right, we can pummel him in some cave in Montana for the next 20 years.

You can't capture or kill him, so instead subdue him to the point he can't plan or cause any attacks.

That is the point where I think he is at. Its not quite as good as capturing him, but still semi-acceptable. He can never show his face again. Cant trust his friends, cant use a cell phone etc etc.
 
I think they should make a reality TV show where they release him in texas or utah or something and make bets on how long he will last.
(radio transmitter with pulse meter attached)
 
Foxtrot said:
It won't happen again, with the patriot act and other essential tools we now have we can effectivley combat terrorists.
Bwhahahahaha...

Hold on...


HAHAHAHAHA...*cough*

Listen up...you can't defeat terrorism...oh sure you can combat them, but you can't win.Terrorism will always be around.
 
You CAN beat terrorism but i'd dread to think what that would involve doing...........
 
short recoil said:
I think they should make a reality TV show where they release him in texas or utah or something and make bets on how long he will last.
(radio transmitter with pulse meter attached)

He has survived in Pakistan/Afghanistan for the past few years with half the world looking for him :).
 
Razor said:
He has survived in Pakistan/Afghanistan for the past few years with half the world looking for him :).
How do you know that? He could be anywhere.
 
Razor said:
He has survived in Pakistan/Afghanistan for the past few years with half the world looking for him :).
Yeah i'd just find it increadibly funny loads of rednecks ranting it through southern american states in broncos with m1919's welded to the roll cage hunting him down.
( i was joking btw if anyone actually thought i was serious)
 
short recoil said:
Yeah i'd just find it increadibly funny loads of rednecks ranting it through southern american states in broncos with m1919's welded to the roll cage hunting him down.
( i was joking btw if anyone actually thought i was serious)


ol' Georgey boy would give himself an advantage and use a tank :LOL:
 
CptStern said:
you think it's bad now? what do you think will happen if he's killed in an american operation?
Yeah - what if he got killed in an American operation...
If they had actually done this days after 9/11 and sent in a hit squad to take him out none of this would have happened
Oops. If it was as simple as sending a "hit squad" as you so aptly call our soldiers, I'm sure we would have done that. Clearly your knowledge of the situation is fueled more by your admiration for bin laden than of real facts.
 
gh0st said:
Yeah - what if he got killed in an American operation...

Oops. If it was as simple as sending a "hit squad" as you so aptly call our soldiers, I'm sure we would have done that. Clearly your knowledge of the situation is fueled more by your admiration for bin laden than of real facts.
[sarcasm]Yes...we all admire Mr.Bin Laden...He is my hero![/sarcasm]
 
KoreBolteR said:
nope it'll prove to people not too mess with america (like on 9/11)

Are you kidding me? 9/11 was "messing with America", and making a martyrn out of bin Laden would only inflame terrorist activity.
 
CptStern said:
ah barbarism is alive and well


"When we break the Taliban, your job is to capture bin Laden, kill him and bring his head back in a box full of dry ice."

"It was the first time in 30 years with the CIA he had been ordered to set out to kill a target rather than try to bring them in alive"


anyone else think that killing bin laden is a mistake? you'll just make a martyr of him ..the best thing to do IMHO is arrest him and try him in an INTERNATIONAL court ..let him rot in a jail but killing him would be a BIG mistake
Agreed. It'd be better to imprison him. But tbh, that just sounds like a motivational speech.. supposed to be over the top.

CptStern said:
I agree ...they really didnt plan this out very welll ...had I been in charge I would have sent in a small team to take him out quietly ..end of problem

tbh I think that's whats going on anyway..
 
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