US: bring me the head of osama packed in ice

gh0st said:
Yeah - what if he got killed in an American operation...

Oops. If it was as simple as sending a "hit squad" as you so aptly call our soldiers, I'm sure we would have done that. Clearly your knowledge of the situation is fueled more by your admiration for bin laden than of real facts.


I have as much admiration for bin laden as I do bush ..ok less so, but that's besides the point. How my "admiration" for bin laden fuels my knowledge of the situation is beyond me but dont you think it's more than a little ironic that you accuse of me of not having the real facts?
 
ComradeBadger said:
Agreed. It'd be better to imprison him. But tbh, that just sounds like a motivational speech.. supposed to be over the top.

could be, I dont know ..it's often been a sure method of idetifying a body and it's been used in the past (not necesarily by the US)

ComradeBadger said:
tbh I think that's whats going on anyway..


I dont think it's so clandestine. I think they'll make a big deal of it just like they did with saddam (even though it wasnt americans who captured him)
 
CptStern said:
I have as much admiration for bin laden as I do bush ..ok less so, but that's besides the point.
:sleep:
 
[evil]in my long thoughts (ok five seconds...) I would find him remove his tongue,eyes, hands, ears,and toes. so that he could walk the world and be known he was the fool for killing so many innocent people. [/evil]

that way he's neither a matyr(or atleast as much as if he was dead) or be held in prison (although that might be a good thing to do anyways), the man is no longer have the ability to do anything to help the other terrorist cells.
 
Killing him would make him a martyr, so I'd prefer he be brought in alive and tried.
 
qckbeam said:
Killing him would make him a martyr, so I'd prefer he be brought in alive and tried.
:rolleyes: Sigh

Have we seriously become so weak as a culture that we are willing to accept three thousand deaths and are unwilling to fully punish the culprit? All because we are scared of him getting "more" respect in the muslim world? I'm sure one of the fascists will replace him either way - our job is never done killing these terrorists. Kill the son of a bitch, gut him on live TV. Put his head on a pole outside of Congress. This is the only kind of action they will comprehend.
 
pvtbones said:
[evil]in my long thoughts (ok five seconds...) I would find him remove his tongue,eyes, hands, ears,and toes. so that he could walk the world and be known he was the fool for killing so many innocent people. [/evil]

that way he's neither a matyr(or atleast as much as if he was dead) or be held in prison (although that might be a good thing to do anyways), the man is no longer have the ability to do anything to help the other terrorist cells.


No no, you have to let him keep his ears, that way whenever a woman shrieks, or a child cries at his hideous face he can hear it. (Kinda stole that from The Princess Bride)


CptStern said:
...dont you think it's more than a little ironic that you accuse of me of not having the real facts?

Real Facts!?!?!? Who the hell is to say what the real facts are. Frankly I wouldn't trust the media anymore than the government... but because a newspaper claims that a former CIA agent said this stuff it must be true right? Besides it never even says when they were told this stuff. How do you know that the CIA guys didn't say this stuff right after 9/11?

I think we all need to open our eyes to the possibility that we are lied to by everyone all the time. There is no real when it comes to war, its all propaganda.
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
Real Facts!?!?!? Who the hell is to say what the real facts are. Frankly I wouldn't trust the media anymore than the government... but because a newspaper claims that a former CIA agent said this stuff it must be true right? Besides it never even says when they were told this stuff. How do you know that the CIA guys didn't say this stuff right after 9/11?

I think we all need to open our eyes to the possibility that we are lied to by everyone all the time. There is no real when it comes to war, its all propaganda.

have we met? oh and it's verifiable:

"He told National Public Radio (NPR) in an interview broadcast on Monday and Tuesday"
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
I think we all need to open our eyes to the possibility that we are lied to by everyone all the time. There is no real when it comes to war, its all propaganda.


Quoted myself for emphasis. How do we even know the guy was in the CIA? Because that is what we are told to believe? Did you listen to that NPR broadcast?

And no I don't believe we have met.
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
No no, you have to let him keep his ears, that way whenever a woman shrieks, or a child cries at his hideous face he can hear it. (Kinda stole that from The Princess Bride)


no no no you take his ears, although as nice as it would be to let him hear said things then he could still provide some help to the terrorist cells. functionality over elegance.
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
Quoted myself for emphasis. How do we even know the guy was in the CIA?


well for starters you could cross reference it:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050503/pl_afp/usattacksciabinladen_050503201456

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N04473815.htm

http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/may2005-daily/04-05-2005/main/main21.htm



or you could always check here


Cuddlez.ini said:
Because that is what we are told to believe? Did you listen to that NPR broadcast?


see above
 
CptStern said:

Ok, I'll accept that... now for this sticky little thing:

CptStern said:
I've given you plenty of evidence ..it's from the US government ..it's indisputable

I sure hope you don't actually believe that.
 
This seemed only too appropriate when I saw that picture of Osama. Some people may not get it (It's a spoof on Bill Murray on SNL as the lounge singer.)
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
Ok, I'll accept that... now for this sticky little thing:



I sure hope you don't actually believe that.


what's there to believe? those documents are official DECLASSIFIED government documents ..how can you dispute something that comes from the horses mouth?
 
Foxtrot said:
Only because the government isn't getting the right to do what they need to, at the "loss" of our "freedoms".


so you're saying that if the US became a police state no terrorists would get through? ...ummm the rest of the world is ample proof of the ineffectiveness a clamp down on security is ...in fact look at yesterdays bombing in iraq ..it was in the safest area of bagdad and its full of coalition forces ..and they still managed to get by

..you know the easy way out would be to see why these people are attacking you and come to some sort of comprimise. Instead you'll endlessly perpetuate terror
 
CptStern said:
so you're saying that if the US became a police state no terrorists would get through? ...ummm the rest of the world is ample proof of the ineffectiveness a clamp down on security is ...in fact look at yesterdays bombing in iraq ..it was in the safest area of bagdad and its full of coalition forces ..and they still managed to get by

..you know the easy way out would be to see why these people are attacking you and come to some sort of comprimise. Instead you'll endlessly perpetuate terror
No, not a police state, not even close. They just need to be able to do more.
 
Cuddlez.ini said:
Besides it never even says when they were told this stuff. How do you know that the CIA guys didn't say this stuff right after 9/11?
Thats when the CIA agent said that this incident happened. He stopped in for instructions right before leaving a few days after the attack, and thats what he was told.
 
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