US double standard policy

[Nofuture]

And again another example for US double standard policy:

"U.S. State Department
"President Assad's announcement is not enough," spokeswoman Darla Jordan said in the statement. "The international community has made clear that Syria must withdraw completely and immediately all of its military forces and intelligence services from Lebanon in accordance with [U.N. Security Council Resolution] 1559."

"A statement from the U.S. State Department said the redeployment falls short and Syrian troops must leave at once."


http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june05/syria_3-02.html

Possible sanctions

GWEN IFILL: Do you fear in anyway that the United Nations, the United States, any of these people who you feel are criticizing you unfairly will respond by imposing new sanctions against Syria?

IMAD MOUSTAPHA: Well, let's distinguish between the United Nations and the United States. Why would the United Nations do this? If they want -- if they think we should be out of Lebanon, they are saying this clearly and loudly. We are going out of Lebanon.

GWEN IFILL: No, perhaps...

IMAD MOUSTAPHA: So they will impose sanctions for what? Listen, if they really want to impose sanctions, let me remind you of this: There are standing United Nations Security Council resolutions demanding that Israel withdraw from the occupied territories for at least the past 30 years.

If they really are looking for someone to impose sanctions on, they should ask Israel to consider this. We are not an occupation in Lebanon, and we are withdrawing.


On Monday I saw on CNN Moustapha saying that US is very eager on Syria´s implementation of UN resolution 1559 .
But the one they should focus on is ISRAEL, not Syria. Syria is implementing now the recent (September 2004) UN resolution, but how many years Israel has not complied with how many UN resolutions?


UN resolutions Israel has not complied with http://www.jerusalemites.org/facts_documents/un/22.htm

http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/USAVetoes.htm
From the list of vetoes imposed by the *US* on the UN Security Council since 1972:

1972 UN condemns Israel for killing hundreds of people in Syria and Lebanon in air raids.
VETOED

1973 UN affirms the rights of the Palestinians and calls on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.
VETOED

1976 UN condemns Israel for attacking Lebanese civilians.
VETOED

1976 UN condemns Israel for building settlements in the occupied territories.
VETOED

1976 UN calls for self determination for the Palestinians.
VETOED

1976 UN affirms the rights of the Palestinians.
VETOED

1978 UN criticises the living conditions of the Palestinians.
VETOED

1978 UN condemns the Israeli human rights record in occupied territories.
VETOED

1979 UN calls for the return of all inhabitants expelled by Israel.
VETOED

1979 UN demands that Israel desist from human rights violations.
VETOED

1979 UN requests a report on the living conditions of Palestinians in occupied Arab countries.
VETOED

1979 UN offers assistance to the Palestinian people.
VETOED

1979 UN discusses sovereignty over national resources in occupied Arab territories.
VETOED

1979 UN wishes to include Palestinian women in the United Nations Conference on Women.
VETOED

1980 UN requests Israel to return displaced persons.
VETOED

1980 UN condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the Palestinian people.
VETOED

1980 UN condemns Israeli human rights practices in occupied territories. 3 resolutions.
VETOED

1980 UN affirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.

...

1982 UN condemns the Israeli invasion of Lebanon. 6 resolutions (1982 to 1983).
VETOED

and so on...


Knowing all this, how any inteligent person can ever believe to US government???

 

[K e r b e r o s]

1972 UN condemns Israel for killing hundreds of people in Syria and Lebanon in air raids.
VETOED

1973 UN affirms the rights of the Palestinians and calls on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories.
VETOED

1976 UN condemns Israel for attacking Lebanese civilians.
VETOED

1976 UN condemns Israel for building settlements in the occupied territories.
VETOED

1976 UN calls for self determination for the Palestinians.
VETOED

1976 UN affirms the rights of the Palestinians.
VETOED

1978 UN criticises the living conditions of the Palestinians.
VETOED

1978 UN condemns the Israeli human rights record in occupied territories.
VETOED

1979 UN calls for the return of all inhabitants expelled by Israel.
VETOED

1979 UN demands that Israel desist from human rights violations.
VETOED

1979 UN requests a report on the living conditions of Palestinians in occupied Arab countries.
VETOED

1979 UN offers assistance to the Palestinian people.
VETOED

1979 UN discusses sovereignty over national resources in occupied Arab territories.
VETOED

1979 UN wishes to include Palestinian women in the United Nations Conference on Women.
VETOED

1980 UN requests Israel to return displaced persons.
VETOED

1980 UN condemns Israeli policy regarding the living conditions of the Palestinian people.
VETOED

1980 UN condemns Israeli human rights practices in occupied territories. 3 resolutions.
VETOED

1980 UN affirms the right of self determination for the Palestinians.

UN, not US, which just devoids this thread of its own title. Further, the Palestinian terrorist organizations, along with the Egyptian Fedayeen, choose to bomb, kill, or maim Israeli's on a daily if not hourly per daily basis -- imagine the UN resolutions they've violated?

Further, Israel has to use excessive force (tanks, well trained soldiers etc.) otherwise, it would resort to just throwing rocks and coca-cola bombs; for as we know with Palestinians and Egyptians, those rocks and bombs just HAPPEN to injure randomly spawned "Zionist Settlers".

 

[bliink]

UN, not US, which just devoids this thread of its own title.

From the list of vetoes imposed by the *US* on the UN Security Council since 1972:

I think thats what he meant.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

<trips over his own pride> Ah, ****! <skins knee> <runs from thread>

 

[CptStern]

here's some double standards for ya:


"Ronald Reagan says that action must be taken to increase U.S. military capabilities and "intelligence collection posture" in the Persian Gulf. Secretary of State Shultz, Secretary of Defense Weinberger, and Director of Central Intelligence William J. Casey are to prepare a plan to prevent Iraq's defeat in the Iran-Iraq war. Reagan directs Shultz to ensure that the U.S. government's condemnation of the use of chemical weapons is unambiguous, while placing "equal stress on the urgent need to dissuade Iran from continuing the ruthless and inhumane tactics which have characterized recent offensives."


National Security Decision Directive (NSDD 139) from Ronald W. Reagan. "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," April 5, 1984


source

 

[kmack]

Knowing all this, how any inteligent person can ever believe to US government???

they can't, but we certainly have enough unintelligent people in the US (look at the idiotic puppet in control of our country, oh ya, I went there.)

 

[CptStern]

well, I do think there's some hope ...even though the majority wont look at this ....maybe they'll look at this and think twice ..hopefully before there's no more room on bush's face

 

[kmack]

look at this and think twice

that picture is haunting.

It has a very sad irony to it.

 

[CptStern]

I agree ..you can barely make out the faces now

 

[seinfeldrules]

well, I do think there's some hope ...even though the majority wont look at this ....maybe they'll look at this and think twice ..hopefully before there's no more room on bush's face

I wonder why people never make faces out of Saddam's victims...

Its a complete sham to use these dead soldiers to further your political attacks.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Really it is. :/

 

[Raziaar]

well, I do think there's some hope ...even though the majority wont look at this ....maybe they'll look at this and think twice ..hopefully before there's no more room on bush's face

You know. I did a 'find' on that first link. There wasn't United States mentioned once in that entire article. Nor bush. It's all about the United Nations.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Hey! I was typing that ... :/

 

[Razor]

here's some double standards for ya:


"Ronald Reagan says that action must be taken to increase U.S. military capabilities and "intelligence collection posture" in the Persian Gulf. Secretary of State Shultz, Secretary of Defense Weinberger, and Director of Central Intelligence William J. Casey are to prepare a plan to prevent Iraq's defeat in the Iran-Iraq war. Reagan directs Shultz to ensure that the U.S. government's condemnation of the use of chemical weapons is unambiguous, while placing "equal stress on the urgent need to dissuade Iran from continuing the ruthless and inhumane tactics which have characterized recent offensives."


National Security Decision Directive (NSDD 139) from Ronald W. Reagan. "Measures to Improve U.S. Posture and Readiness to Respond to Developments in the Iran-Iraq War," April 5, 1984


source

Ronald Reagan was one of the worst president's in America's history, the guy was a absolute looney and completely nuts.

Anyway, Israel will never be held responsible for any crimes against the Arab nations as long as America is part of the UN. With the amount of weapons that America has sold to Israel, any sanctions against Israel will most likely hurt the American arms industry a great deal.

 

[CptStern]

You know. I did a 'find' on that first link. There wasn't United States mentioned once in that entire article. Nor bush. It's all about the United Nations.

huh? are you talking about the water treatment vulnerabilities document? if so, google:

DIA (Department of Intelligence Agency) WASHINGTON

CENTCOM

and

CENTAF

 

[redhollowpoint]

Ronald Reagan was one of the worst president's in America's history, the guy was a absolute looney and completely nuts.

Anyway, Israel will never be held responsible for any crimes against the Arab nations as long as America is part of the UN. With the amount of weapons that America has sold to Israel, any sanctions against Israel will most likely hurt the American arms industry a great deal.

lebanon is a country, palestine is not.

any way basically America is the UN with out america in the UN the UN is complete nothingness, besides sanctions dont really do anything they just waste time and innocent peoples lives. The UN needs to take more military action to get rid of these crazed dictators and savage regimes, to start installing the New World Order, its inevitable anyway.

 

[Nofuture]

Israel and the USA...

http://www.davidicke.net/newsroom/asia/israel/101101a.html
"Washington Report on Middle East Affairs
Wednesday, October 3, 2001

[What Ariel Sharon Said]

Occupied Jerusalem:
3 October, 2001 (IAP)

-- According to Israel radio (in Hebrew) Kol Yisrael, [Shimon] Peres warned [Ariel] Sharon Wednesday that refusing to heed incessant American requests for a cease-fire with the Palestinians would endanger Israeli interests and "turn the US against us."

At this point, a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."

The radio said Peres and other cabinet ministers warned Sharon against saying what he said in public because "it would cause us a public relations disaster."

(c) IAP News"

to start installing the New World Order, its inevitable anyway.

Do you mean by the New World Order this?

and this?:

"New World Order: Neo-fascist idea that we must steal the world's oil and destroy worshippers of the wrong God for world domination in the New American Century." (From The Official New American Dictionary For the New American Century)

 

[CptStern]

hey dont forget this bastion of Pax Americana

 

[The Monkey]

I've always hated the vetoe. Why should five countries that won a war 60 years ago alone have the right to decide about very important matters in other places on earth?

 

[Calanen]

I've always hated the vetoe. Why should five countries that won a war 60 years ago alone have the right to decide about very important matters in other places on earth?

Because, they won the war. Well most of them did. I would not have given the French the vote, and neither would have FDR but Churchill lobbied for it a lot. China was also eventually put on there, which makes the most sense, given they represent a quarter of the world's population.

Ideally there should perhaps be a permanent member for the Middle East, Africa, and Asia other than China as well.

But the current superpowers are not going to allow that I don't think.

 

[Nofuture]

Because, they won the war. Well most of them did. I would not have given the French the vote, and neither would have FDR but Churchill lobbied for it a lot. China was also eventually put on there, which makes the most sense, given they represent a quarter of the world's population.

Ideally there should perhaps be a permanent member for the Middle East, Africa, and Asia other than China as well.

But the current superpowers are not going to allow that I don't think.

FDR = F. D. Roosevelt?

I've always hated the vetoe. Why should five countries that won a war 60 years ago alone have the right to decide about very important matters in other places on earth?

I completely agree with you. There are 60 (!) years over, it is a long long time. It´s enough of this unfair dominion!!!

UN Security Council: Members
http://www.un.org/Docs/sc/unsc_members.html

"Each Council member has one vote. Decisions on procedural matters are made by an affirmative vote of at least nine of the 15 members. Decisions on substantive matters require nine votes, including the concurring votes of all five permanent members. This is the rule of "great Power unanimity", often referred to as the "veto" power."

 

[Razor]

lebanon is a country, palestine is not.

any way basically America is the UN with out america in the UN the UN is complete nothingness, besides sanctions dont really do anything they just waste time and innocent peoples lives. The UN needs to take more military action to get rid of these crazed dictators and savage regimes, to start installing the New World Order, its inevitable anyway.

That is the whole problem, i think a lot of people want Palestine to be a country, like it used to be. And America is not the UN and neither would the UN be nothing with America.