US refuses extradiction of wanted terrorist

[Hapless]

You you mind answering the post instead of looking up random grammar flaws?

I'm not going to defend what this government does or has done in the past regarding this issue. What I will do is question the apparent shock at the fact the U.S. governement won't extradite this particular person. Especially in light of the fact that the thread starter's own country would not extradite this same person to the U.S. if he were wanted by the U.S. I suspect they would not extradite him to Venezuela either, and I have no doubt Stern would fully support THAT decision. What he has done or may have done is a moot point.

 

[Top Secret]

Although presumptuous and ignorant, at least your argument doesn't carry any credibility.

That's because it's an opinion, not an arguement.

Good job.

 

[CptStern]

Would Canada extradite him to the U.S. in oaccordance with international law?

yes, allegiations of torture is not enough to stop extradition ...we extradite to the US all the time

I'm not going to defend what this government does or has done in the past regarding this issue.

of course not, that would be admitting to what is plain for everyone to see: blatant hypocrisy

What I will do is question the apparent shock at the fact the U.S. governement won't extradite this particular person.

yet you have sent dozens of people to be tortured in foreign countries. Carilles has no way of backing up his torture allegations. His defense is shaky at best. There is no real justification for not extraditing him as venezuela does not have a policy of toturing their criminals ...remember he isnt a political prisoner ..he's being charged with the murders of 73 people

Especially in light of the fact that the thread starter's own country would not extradite this same person to the U.S. if he were wanted by the U.S.

what this has to do with anything I dont quite comprehend ..I dont determine policy

I suspect they would not extradite him to Venezuela either,

nope you're wrong, canada has an extradiction treaty with venezuela

and I have no doubt Stern would fully support THAT decision.

you dont know how I will react, we've never met ..unlike the majority of you bush supporters, I wont stay silent when my country does something wrong ..I've yet to see you EVER criticise your government for anything

What he has done or may have done is a moot point.

funny but I dont think you'd be saying the same thing if he were suspected of being a member of al qaeda ..had the 73 victems of the aviation bombing been american you'd be screaming bloody murder ..double standards to say the least ....my original point stands:

"if you harbor terrorists YOU ARE A TERRORIST" - George W Bush

Meh, whatever. I still say you hate Americans.

then that would mean I hate you, hapless, Jimi Hendrix, Martin Luther King jr, Mr Rogers, my aunt, uncle, cousins their wives and their children and 298,999,991 other americans just for the fact they live where they do. Kinda rediculous dontcha think?

If it's not Bush bashing (Which I don't really mind.)

if the least that bush gets is the odd saucy comment from some guy on the internet then I think he's not doing all that bad

Then you're going after our soldiers,

the ones that deserve it yes ..I, unlike you, hold soldiers accountable for the crimes they commit

or going against gun laws.

ya well dems da breaks

And it seems everytime a soldier or civilian is killed, you say "You killed him." No I didn't.

you have to stop thinking so superficially ..I meant you as in "you the US, you the supporters of Bush, you the supporters of the war"

These things we believe in. And this is as welcome as any other post. I'm simply responding to a comment you made. Deal with it.

it seems to me that you're the one who needs to "deal with it" ...if you cant handle criticism maybe you shouldnt venture into the politics forum

 

[Lt. Drebin]

Seems to me that Carilles is crying wolf. Clearly he doesn't want to return to Venezuela and stand trial for murdering innocent people and some knowledge of international law will reveal that the US does not extradite to torture-endorsing nations.

He should be extradited. BUT, since the US has no way of knowing for sure, he remains. He probobly deserves to be tortured and beaten to death for some of the things that he's done, but willingly and knowingly allowing that to happen places us at a level equal to that murderer. Overall, our policy is pure hypocrisy....but lets look at one person here. Does this judge have some ludicrous history of "loose" interpretation of the law....further, international law?? He may simply be playing by the rules and covering his ass.

I for one would rather see this man tried, convicted and sentenced.....demonstrating exactly how the society that murderer hates got the last laugh.

 

[Mechagodzilla]

Dreblin's right.
The subject is morally unclear enough that neither stern nor those furious with him should be so absolutist.

The guy should get a trial, and he should go to venezuala, but the US should ensure his safety until such a time as he is convicted and, if they cannot, some other solution will be required. No tortures and such.

Now is that not something we can all agree on?