US scientists create zombie dogs

[OCybrManO]

Rigor mortis usually starts to take place around a few hours after death, IIRC... and at normal temperatures the process lasts about 3 days. However, near 0°C the process is much slower... and will continue at a normal pace when the body is thawed unless the muscles can get ATP (created through cellular respiration, which requires oxygen-rich blood, and is needed in the chemical reaction involved in the process of making a muscle relax). The system described in this article suggests that, in terms of things like decomposition and rigor mortis, the body will be in a state as if it had only been dead for minutes when if it is reanimated hours or possibly even days later. So, rigor mortis isn't a problem.

 

[Reaktor4]

I'm not talking about what happens to their body. I'm talking about life after death. Whether it exists, or it doesnt, noone noes. I doubt science will ever prove it. Just like it will never be proven or disproven about the reality of god.

What im saying is that as far as science is concerned we are alive and can think because of electrical impulses in our brains, right? So when our body including the brain stops working, we must stop existing on any level. So how can an afterlife (or anything else) even be a possibility from a scientific point of view? If it cant, then we do in fact know what happens when we die, no?

Well... we're not just talking about science. I brought up the topic of religion, not as a religion discussion, but more of a life after death discussion involving the soul and a body having been departed for a long time.

Jesus in the bible is not a representation of what happens to christians when they die. That was what happened to Jesus, as the bible told. I believe in the bible, christians are said to keep with their body in the grave, until the time of Jesus's return to earth(I can't say exactly, its real early here and i'm not a bible expert. heh), in which case they go up to heaven along with the living who are worthy.

Never knew that, but im not exactly into religion, ive actually started to hate it in recent years and im somewhere between athiest/agnostic now. Anyway theyll come up with some excuse whatever happens. In their minds they have no choice. Its either admit you were wrong about something that you passionately believed your whole life and accept what really happens when we die, or bullshit your way outta the situation. Reminds me of something....

No, I certainly don't. My post wasn't about facts, it was really about 'what ifs'.

Ok. Well i assume what happens in cases of people 'coming back to life' is that there were still neurons firing in the brain while they were apparently dead. If the doctors acted quick enough maybe they could have someone brought back to or close to normal but if it took too long the person would be a vegetable or eventually unsavable. But again i dunno really, im out of my depth here.

I don't believe that is what that is for. I believe the salty liquid is to prevent the body tissue from degrading. Rigor mortis is the stiffening of the muscles upon death. I guess I can't really see how something like that would prevented. Would the body suddenly springing back to life again reverse the process, since the muscles/tissue etc have function again? I don't know. Would be interesting to find out, though.

this makes things a bit clearer http://chemistry.about.com/cs/biochemistry/a/aa061903a.htm

 

[Raziaar]

Rigor mortis usually starts to take place around a few hours after death, IIRC... and at normal temperatures the process lasts about 3 days. However, near 0°C the process is much slower... and will continue when the body is thawed. The system described in this article suggests that, in terms of things like decomposition and rigor mortis, the body will be in a state as if it had only been dead for minutes when if it is reanimated hours or possibly even days later. So, rigor mortis isn't a problem.

What about Boneitis?

 

[OCybrManO]

What about Boneitis?

Well, I guess we'll just have to freeze ourselves until a cure is found for it.

 

[Raziaar]

What im saying is that as far as science is concerned we are alive and can think because of electrical impulses in our brains, right? So when our body including the brain stops working, we must stop existing on any level. So how can an afterlife (or anything else) even be a possibility from a scientific point of view? If it cant, then we do in fact know what happens when we die, no?

How can there be a possibility of an afterlife, or some other form of being after death, I don't know. All I know is, science really cannot disprove it, and people cannot really prove it.

What happens to a person after death, is a mystery, and even those who are not religious believe in the supernatural, which has to do with existence after death.

And as for me personally, religion or not, I find it hard to believe we just rot in the ground, blackness, nothingness, etc. Though, at the same time... I am troubled by the fact that there was nothingness for 'me' before I was born. Or was there? I don't know, but it just makes me crazy thinking about it. Trying to imigine oneself not being in existence is more difficult pre life, than post life, though. Contemplate on it some time

And all that probably made no sense... so i'm outta here! See ya!

 

[Shippi]

Definately interesting.. it'll save a lot of lives. And it's not like it's something which will let a person to live forever, it just means that there's more time to treat a person who's been severely injured, in, say a car crash. I don't understand why people are having problems with this; it can only be a good thing. If you're against this, you may as well be against anything which saves peoples lives, who would die otherwise..