Valve leaves stupid cheat in CS:S

[FthrJACK]

Before anyone asks NO I WONT TELL YOU.

There is a comand left in the console by Valve than when you turn it on you wall hack. It works on any server, doesent needs cheats enabling and is client side.

Ive tested it on my own server and a buddy went on one online and tried it and it worked.

Over the past week i have on several occasions noticed people pushing their faces into crates and walls and magically able to know where the enemy is comming from every time.

on testing this command out, i now know why.

IF YOU EVER SEE SOMEONE PUSHING THEIR FACE INTO A CRATE, WALL, DOOR OR OTHER OBJECT AND LOOKING ODDLY AROUND AT WALLS AS IF LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THEY ARE USING THIS CHEAT.

i had my suspicions a few times, sad to see that its confirmed. we once accused some guy of doing this on a server and got the usual tirade of "hahha yeah right, its just cause you suck" etc etc etc. Lame haxing bastards all should be shot.

as you can see below, it works, i took the first screenshot on a public server with 23 people playing on it, and this isnt a very good example because i didnt leave the spawn area and use it somewhere that it would show just how much of a difference it makes, cause im not about to go cheating people out of their game:

http://www.cme-corp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hax.jpg

Beter example taken on my own server, on office:

http://www.cme-corp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hax2.jpg

 

[Hish]

hmm maybe tell valve about this, so they can fix this, we dont want any noobs using it

 

[FthrJACK]

ive reported it.

People are already using it thats the problem, hence the post so you know what to look for inorder to spot which assholes are using it.

 

[SunshineRecorder]

this should be stickied?

 

[Chris D]

If you give the command to me (by e-mail or PM), I will pass it on to Cliffe. Either that or just e-mail him yourself at [email protected]

Additionally, anyone suspected of using this on our servers will be kicked.

Anyone deliberately posting the command here will be banned for a few days.

 

[Gunner]

Chris there's a command for full brightness and to disable smoke grenades, want those too? Icarus didn't give a hoot

 

[perrkele]

Haha, this sounds like z_max all over again. I really hope they'll fix this soon, although seeing through walls isn't quite as big of a thing as in 1.6, since you can't really spam through walls any more. Still sucks, though, that's for sure. Full bright/no smokes doesn't sound very good either. ;(

 

[Gray Fox]

What do you mean by spamming trough walls and why can you di it on cs 1.6 and not in css

 

[perrkele]

Bullets don't really go through walls in CS:S. I've noticed only a couple of places that you are actually able to shoot through. Aztec doors is one example. I'm still undecided as to whether this is a good thing or not. Wall-spamming was on of those key features of CS, it feels a bit "naked" without it, really. But maybe I'll get used to it.

In CS 1.6 on the other hand, you could shoot though pretty much anything as long as the map .bsp was divided in a way that allowed it. The bsps are divided into these "cubes" and desert eagle/most rifles can shoot through one cube, some sniper rifles through two. It didn't matter what kind of material the obstacle(s) was made of, as long as the rule I just mentioned applies. In de_train, for example, you can fire from the inner bombsite to the area after the stairs where the terrorists come from. That's like 5+ metres of concrete right there.

 

[Gunner]

Yeah I think I know which spot you're talking about, near the ladder you go on top of a train and spam the wall facing opposite the bomb site.

I'm kinda disappointed that they removed the walling in source but hey it does effectively reduce the amount of random hits from people who used to spam through chokepoints. It's cool that you can still shoot through crates though

 

[DuB]

Before anyone asks NO I WONT TELL YOU.

There is a comand left in the console by Valve than when you turn it on you wall hack. It works on any server, doesent needs cheats enabling and is client side.

Ive tested it on my own server and a buddy went on one online and tried it and it worked.

Over the past week i have on several occasions noticed people pushing their faces into crates and walls and magically able to know where the enemy is comming from every time.

on testing this command out, i now know why.

IF YOU EVER SEE SOMEONE PUSHING THEIR FACE INTO A CRATE, WALL, DOOR OR OTHER OBJECT AND LOOKING ODDLY AROUND AT WALLS AS IF LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THEY ARE USING THIS CHEAT.

i had my suspicions a few times, sad to see that its confirmed. we once accused some guy of doing this on a server and got the usual tirade of "hahha yeah right, its just cause you suck" etc etc etc. Lame haxing bastards all should be shot.

as you can see below, it works, i took the first screenshot on a public server with 23 people playing on it, and this isnt a very good example because i didnt leave the spawn area and use it somewhere that it would show just how much of a difference it makes, cause im not about to go cheating people out of their game:

http://www.cme-corp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hax.jpg

Beter example taken on my own server, on office:

http://www.cme-corp.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/hax2.jpg

Well that sucks... what dementure could make you leave that in-game...

 

[FthrJACK]

You CAN shoot through walls on CS:S.

start your own server and turn tracers on and then go play around. shooting the hossies through the walls on cs_italy is always fun.

ive had several kills where i have shot people through walls, such as the window over looking CT spawn on italy, noisy footsteps above you -- shoot up and spray the floor the guys on and voila -- same as always was in CS.

 

[FthrJACK]

oh and i tested fullbright, it only works when sv_cheats 1 is on, so thats not the same.

 

[SupaKoopa]

hahahah i thought you were gonna talk about the "F10" cheat that gives you infinte ammo, life, and spawns 20 naked alyxes to dance for you.

 

[DiSTuRbEd]

Wait for VAC2

 

[$niffy]

Valve developers are aware of the exploit, don't you worry mate.

 

[azertyu]

Wait for VAC2

what's so good about vac2? isn't it the same as vac with updates?

 

[FthrJACK]

VAC2 isnt going to detect and ban someone for using a legitimate console command. its not a 3rd party program or changed game file, its PART OF THE GAME.

 

[T.H.C.138]

hopefully it will be fixed in the first patch :thumbs: (please?)

I experimented with what you can and cannot shoot through to an extent on some of the maps using different guns etc.
And I suggest you do this also if you haven't already..just so you know if that kill on you WAS possible or not.
maybe it will help cut down on false "cheat" accusations..who knows?

Also,play with the physics toys on your own server..helps you to stay alive

 

[Black-Falcon]

Yea where the heck is VAC2?