Valve's email is a fake.

[Biggs]

Im going from what StarMonkey said on the site that SpuD confirmed the email.

From: "Doug Lombardi" <[email protected]>
To: "'Adam(SpuD)'" <[email protected]>, "Gabe Newell" <[email protected]>, "John Cook" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Subject: RE: HalfLife2.net wants confirmation.
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:59 -0700Hi.

Notice the problem with the To: line?

<[email protected]>, "Gabe Newell" <[email protected]>, "John Cook" <[email protected]>, [email protected]

What's missing the pattern? the <> around erik's name perhaps? If he copy pasted it that should be in there. That's problem #1

From: Adam(SpuD) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:46 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: HalfLife2.net wants confirmation.

Look at the time it says 9:46 PM but i thought up above it reads:
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:04:59 -0700Hi.

Wait a min. if the time says 22:04:59 thats military time? then shouldn't the 9:46PM read 21:46:00? Thats a bit odd the outgoing mail server uses that and the incoming uses military? That's Problem #2

To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]

From the line above is missing the <> as well, but this could just be because its not in spud's address book so i'll let that slide.

Lastly just the statement itself:

"Yes, I sent that note to Shack.

Sorry it didn't reach the entire press list at once.

And, as you may have guessed, that's all we can say -- for the moment anyway.

Cheers"

Yah, that really sounds like some intelligent person from valve. If they are going to delay the game they could at least sound a tad more professional. I have spoken to many of the valve guys via email over the years and nothing as sounded as retarded as this. Nor do they end with cheers...most valve guys have a sig after their emails but spud could have edited that out. Anyway that's problem #3 since the <> one above doesn't count.

My advice is to ignore this whole email deal and just sit back and wait for someone to say something real. One site is gonna say its confirmed someone else is going to say its a lie, and its going to go back and forth. People will flame each other for whos right and whos wrong but im telling you guys if the game is delayed you'll know it offically, not just via some crappy email to all the news sites. It's not how it works. Do i think HL2 will make the 30th? Sure, i hope it does just like you all do but im expecting it to possibly be delayed but I don't think valve has enough balls to pull the plug on the release date 6 days away it's just not their style they are holding an Ace up their sleve just you watch. Until then flame me if you wish but take my advice and don't worry about these emails and what the news sites say cause they are all just fans like you and nothing more.

 

[Athlon7]

*sigh* It is delayed, check the valve info thread.

 

[poseyjmac]

but valve would have made some phone calls to clear up this madness if it was fake. remember phone calls are one thing thats reliable. but then dont ask me where they would make the official statement, because they dont have a news website

 

[SaiboT]

Wishful thinking.
I'm just hoping Valve will see how riled up they can get us all and then tell us "STFU nubs the game is coming out the 30th. omg wtf lol w00t u all just got pwned in teh facezor... 0\/\/|\|3|)!!!11!!1one!!one!!"
That would make my day.

 

[Typhon]

#1: you don't need <> if there isn't an alias, like "Gabe Newell".

#2: The date formats are completely different, not just the times. It has to do with email clients and their format.

#3. emails from valve are never even remotely professional. that's what everyone is pissed about.

 

[burnzie]

hmm, interesting

im sure hopeing your on to somthing there

 

[Joneleth]

#3. emails from valve are never even remotely professional. that's what everyone is pissed about.

I don't see a problem with this. When you send an e-mail to Valve, it doesn't mean they have to be all professional. They're real people, responding to their fans. There's no rules requiring them to spell correctly or use proper grammar. Hell, half the people here can't spell or use gammar, so I don't see why you should be expecting Valve to constantly be on top of these things.

 

[Biggs]

#1: you don't need <> if there isn't an alias, like "Gabe Newell".

#2: The date formats are completely different, not just the times. It has to do with email clients and their format.

#3. emails from valve are never even remotely professional. that's what everyone is pissed about.

I agree with #1
#2 no it doesn't send email in outlook or outlook express its consitently the same.
#3 I can see how its non-professional but this is too terrible.

Secondly the valve thread means jack its all put in their by non-valve emps that gathered tid bits from the net. Some is legit and some could be fake. It's not like valve has time to police sites and say nope thats wrong!

 

[d8cam]

no one in the USA says "cheers"

they say "thanks"

that makes me maybe believe its fake and that is substantial proof

 

[poseyjmac]

Originally posted by d8cam
no one in the USA says "cheers"

they say "thanks"

that makes me maybe believe its fake and that is substantial proof

but theres a tv show called cheers that was made in the US. so that means.... well it means i like to watch nick@night

 

[Typhon]

no, some of us do say cheers.

joneleth, some people, myself including, would just really appreciate a news section on the valve site.

edit: and cheers != thanks. ever.

 

[merc]

all these email things are lame... you guys... valve would have at least put down the mass of rumors by now if it wasnt true.... hl2 IS delayed whether you like it or not! its time to accept the facts!

-merc

 

[Joneleth]

Oh I'd appreciate a news section on the Valve website too. Never disagreed to that.

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by merc
all these email things are lame... you guys... valve would have at least put down the mass of rumors by now if it wasnt true.... hl2 IS delayed whether you like it or not! its time to accept the facts!

-merc

it is in all likelyhood delayed. but plz don't say valve would put down rumors. they love rumors. gabe gets his kicks from squirming fanboys. (example: they said nothing over the first crazy delay rumor from gamespot)

 

[Mr Neutron]

As an American, I find 'cheers' especially useful in e-mails for its lack of ordinarinesss, yet informality.

Apparantly the original poster here finds sentences beginning with conjunctions incoherent and signs of illiteracy. Gah?

 

[Goombatommy]

If everything were a hoax, you mean to tell me that Spud emailed the person who started the hoax? Doubtful.

 

[rec]

The E-Mail is real. Please, take this opportunity to move on.

Closed.

 

[rec]

I'm posting this final note on Spud's request and his concern in relation to this topic. If any of you skeptics have any doubts about the authenticity of Spud's e-mail, he has welcomed any of you to private message him to discuss the issue.

For those that are not aware, Spud is HL2.net staff, and has been participating here for five months. He has no reason or motive to lie to his own community.

Despite what some of you may think, or want to think; the e-mail is very real - as was Doug's initial e-mail to Shack. it has now been confirmed numerous times that this delay is real, some of you need to move on. Please do not patronize us or our efforts.