Valve's surprise unveiled?

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Poita

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(slight spoiler in this one).


I just finished the game and Valves surprise became obvious to me.
They will unlock a further chapter of Half Life. Retail buyers will probably ket a code to type in.
Think about it? There is NO WAY that this end to half life 2 is fitting. (spoiler coming up . . )
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. A fri kkin office administrator in a bubble? we just lob a few energy orbs at him and he's done, with a hand full of guards rushing us. Perleeeeeeeeaze. there is no way that is fitting for the end of a game. I mean, how does that even conclude anything? He was just a minion. The big eye ball on the monitor was the real power.
If it said 'To be continued . . . ' as some movies do or tv episodes when a sequel is already in the works then i could imagine they are splitting the story into two but it said nothing. Just the G man enigmatically putting you back to sleep.
If that is the end of the game then we have been serverely short changed in terms of story line (i dont mean as a game). Any movie, book or anything else that ended on that note would be ridiculed
Either Valve are having fun with us and will unlock a last chapter or they just got bored with the story and gave up when the office manager got his come uppance.



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Except there's nothing to unlock.
 
That is the end, the whole end, and nothing but the end. The suprise will probably be one of the following things: HL2 DM, New CS:S maps, major CS:S update, TF2 news or DoD:s news.
 
I doubt it'll be anything that big, maybe another couple of CS:Source maps or something. They could possibly be revealing some TF2 media, but here's to wishful thinking.
 
How can someone say that isn't the end? The ending they gave is pretty much the exact same in terms of what it explains as the one from HL1.

Funny thing is I never heard anyone ever complain about the HL1 ending though. Funny isn't it. :upstare:
 
Poita said:
(slight spoiler in this one).


I just finished the game and Valves surprise became obvious to me.
They will unlock a further chapter of Half Life. Retail buyers will probably ket a code to type in.
Think about it? There is NO WAY that this end to half life 2 is fitting. (spoiler coming up . . )
.

.

.

.

.

.

.

. A fri kkin office administrator in a bubble? we just lob a few energy orbs at him and he's done, with a hand full of guards rushing us. Perleeeeeeeeaze. there is no way that is fitting for the end of a game. I mean, how does that even conclude anything? He was just a minion. The big eye ball on the monitor was the real power.
If it said 'To be continued . . . ' as some movies do or tv episodes when a sequel is already in the works then i could imagine they are splitting the story into two but it said nothing. Just the G man enigmatically putting you back to sleep.
If that is the end of the game then we have been serverely short changed in terms of story line (i dont mean as a game). Any movie, book or anything else that ended on that note would be ridiculed
Either Valve are having fun with us and will unlock a last chapter or they just got bored with the story and gave up when the office manager got his come uppance.



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ok the end you saw in hl2 is a Cliff hangar!!!
wont find out what happened till hl3

there will be no new chapters to download. which was also stated by gabe.
the surprise is most likly a new gameplay mode.. ie dm

and besides if this was to be the final game in the half-life series yes it wouldnt be a fitting end... but it is confirmed that valve intends half-life to be a trilogy which makes the ending of hl2 make sense that way it would tie into hl3 even more because in hl3 you will discover what happened to alyx etc...
but for now they want to leave you thinking of the possibilities
 
i don't think some people get it,
it's not supposed to be the ending! it's supposed to be a cliffhanger. remember, half-life is a trilogy.
 
no way is that the surprise... its impossible, the only reason the end id like that is so they can continue on in hl3..
 
mayfer said:
i don't think some people get it,
it's not supposed to be the ending! it's supposed to be a cliffhanger. remember, half-life is a trilogy.
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Of course it's going to be a trilogy, everything that was original and good has been made into a trilogy, why suck cash out of peoples pockets once or twice when it's the trendy thing to do it 3 times.
 
I hope to God that it's Combine vs. Resistance DM. Would be awesome to play as Combine with the screen going all blueish depending on your mask or something like that! :)
 
Alec_85 said:
I hope to God that it's Combine vs. Resistance DM. Would be awesome to play as Combine with the screen going all blueish depending on your mask or something like that! :)
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What a ****ing brilliant idea !!! :afro:
 
Of course it's a cliff hanger but even cliff hangers have to be done artfully. Look at LOTR:TTT (at least in the book). It ended witht he feeling that the real battle is yet to come yet there was still a certain sense of completion and a big assed battle at Helms Deep.
So Gordon killed (we think) that gray haired bloke from the head office. Come on. that's about as much a cliff hanger as if the G man appeared smack in the middle of any level throught the game and put Gordon to sleep. It just ended . . . . Imagine if Arnie 'Quaid' had killed Victor on the elevator ("see you at the party Victor") then the Total Recal had just ended there. Woul everyone say 'ah that will give us something to think about for the next two years till Total Recal 2 (or in the case of HL3 maybe 6 years). It's just a lame way to end a game or set up a cliff hanger.
In fact a cliff hanger should 'pose a question' not just deny an answer to one you have been working on from the start of the game. So in some way it's not even a cliff hanger. It's just one story chopped in half.
 
I thought the ending was damn good for a mid-trilogy game.

I did make me think, though, about a series of mission-based online expansions to the game, seen from Gordon's eyes. After all, the G-Man did say he'd recieved a number of job offers for Gordy... from unnamed sources. Maybe other worlds want to get rid of their Combine infestation?

Also, and slightly off-topic, there's the matter of the world glimpsed through the portal... was that the Combine homeworld?
 
MadGuy said:
What a ****ing brilliant idea !!! :afro:
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Yeah I know. Really original. Worship me! ;) Or maybe we could view the DM from inside the mask so most of the screen is black :D That'd work :) Not.
 
Combine vs Resistance would be better than HL2 itself. (not really, but close)
 
The Mullinator said:
How can someone say that isn't the end? The ending they gave is pretty much the exact same in terms of what it explains as the one from HL1.

Funny thing is I never heard anyone ever complain about the HL1 ending though. Funny isn't it. :upstare:
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Actually thats one of the big reasons why I liked HL1 better than HL2 the ending. At the end of HL1 you fight a huge brain flying shit and its fun and it feels right, you dont feel ripped off. At the end of HL2 it just doesnt seem like the end, it was rushed and it felt like something Valve did just so hurry up and get HL2 over with. I didnt enjoy the feeling of being ripped. Maybe HL1 felt better and longer because it has more chapters than HL2.
 
Alec_85 said:
I hope to God that it's Combine vs. Resistance DM. Would be awesome to play as Combine with the screen going all blueish depending on your mask or something like that! :)
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that would kick some ***.
 
If you ask me, the big floating baby in HL1 was kind of cheesy and disappointing. HL2 felt much better in terms of its ending.
 
Poita said:
Of course it's a cliff hanger but even cliff hangers have to be done artfully. Look at LOTR:TTT (at least in the book). It ended witht he feeling that the real battle is yet to come yet there was still a certain sense of completion and a big assed battle at Helms Deep.
So Gordon killed (we think) that gray haired bloke from the head office. Come on. that's about as much a cliff hanger as if the G man appeared smack in the middle of any level throught the game and put Gordon to sleep. It just ended . . . . Imagine if Arnie 'Quaid' had killed Victor on the elevator ("see you at the party Victor") then the Total Recal had just ended there. Woul everyone say 'ah that will give us something to think about for the next two years till Total Recal 2 (or in the case of HL3 maybe 6 years). It's just a lame way to end a game or set up a cliff hanger.
In fact a cliff hanger should 'pose a question' not just deny an answer to one you have been working on from the start of the game. So in some way it's not even a cliff hanger. It's just one story chopped in half.
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there is no wrong way to do a cliff hanger
it all depends on how the creators wants to do it
 
Valve is not going to unlock the last chapter, simply because then all the 56k people would be angrey that the broadband folks could play it and they would have to either wait an intorable amount of time or just go get it from a friend. So no.
 
My thoughts of what valve's planning next:
Maybe something multiplayer, and an expansion pack.
The expansion would flow through the timeline of HL2 from an alternative point of view - I'm saying Combine. Imagine playing a soldier of Combine that has been assigned to some kind of a mission and fight against the rebels with a combine squad hanging around. And you could get to drive a chopper or that armored vehicle and put up ambushes for rebels, and raid rebel camps... :cheese: Oh god I SO can imagine that...
Not everything about the combine and about the missing parts of the story would be told to the player in the expansion. Some stuff would be told though, something that would hold the player hungry until HL3 or another expansion comes out. I wish all of this to happen, atleast that's what I would do. I loved HL1, I loved the Opposing Force expansion - I loved HL2, why wouldn't I love an opposing force expansion for it too? :farmer:

Anyway, good job on HL2, the gameplay was awesome, and I don't think the story was bad either.
 
You're right, the levels themselves probably weigh around less than 50mb. The stuff those levels are made from weigh alot, but they're already in hl2 dir.
 
I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER I WANT HL2 MULTiPlAYER
 
wow I actually came up with a relatively good reason for Valve not releasing a Combine vs. Resistance MP. Not while CS:S exists. They would practically be clones of each other. Just some new maps & new skins & voila, you have a disguised Counter-Strike. Too bad.
 
Poita said:
(slight spoiler in this one).


I just finished the game and Valves surprise became obvious to me.
They will unlock a further chapter of Half Life. Retail buyers will probably ket a code to type in.
Think about it? There is NO WAY that this end to half life 2 is fitting. (spoiler coming up . . )
.

.

.

.

.

.

.

. A fri kkin office administrator in a bubble? we just lob a few energy orbs at him and he's done, with a hand full of guards rushing us. Perleeeeeeeeaze. there is no way that is fitting for the end of a game. I mean, how does that even conclude anything? He was just a minion. The big eye ball on the monitor was the real power.
If it said 'To be continued . . . ' as some movies do or tv episodes when a sequel is already in the works then i could imagine they are splitting the story into two but it said nothing. Just the G man enigmatically putting you back to sleep.
If that is the end of the game then we have been serverely short changed in terms of story line (i dont mean as a game). Any movie, book or anything else that ended on that note would be ridiculed
Either Valve are having fun with us and will unlock a last chapter or they just got bored with the story and gave up when the office manager got his come uppance.



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What is wrong with you?
 
So you think Valve would spend hours working on a level that is part of the main storyline and leave it not put it in so that all the reviews and everyone playing for the first time will think less of their game.

Gee, now that sounds like a fun strategy for success...
 
I dunno, I reckon any downloadable chapter/installment-style expansions, even if they were from Gordon's point of view, wouldn't be integral. They'd just end up being something that happened between HL2 and HL3... something interesting and cool that expands the story, but not totally important to the story, like OP4 or BS were.
 
...Poita...are you not getting that it is a TRILOGY? few things are supposed to be answered, and many questions are supposed to be created. And because it's a trilogy, the final "big as boss" is supposed to come at the END!!!! DO YOU GET IT NOW!?!?!
Sorry for the yelling, these types of people just ge me SO MAD!!!
 
ok to address some replies:

(1.) TKmaster: Ther 'IS' a right and wrong way to do a cliff hanger actually. think about the 'metaphor'. You take them over the cliff and they are hanging and you dont know if they will fall off or climb back up. The reason they use that metaphor is that the story, movie, tv show, point in the game leaves you wondering if the character will survive/achieve is aim. A cliff hanger 'DOES NOT' just plain leave you wondering what the hell is going on. THAT is the difference between ending the game with a cliff hanger and just stoping it at a random point and leaving the players wondering what the hell was next and having to wait for the next game. There is an art to these things.

(2.) MR Wotsit: a good point. It's nice to see intelligent points being made as a counter arguement.

(3.)L337_Assasain: It's you who arn't gettin git L337, the serries being a trilogy does not mean it's ok to have an unsatisfying story. Your point that a trilogy is meant to only give more questions and not provide any answers shows that you don't know what a trilogy is supposed to do. The second part of any trilogy should first of all entertain, move the story along, and if done with great skill it should answer questions from the first part that serve as answers yes also set up questions that are to be answered in the next installment (get it??? answers 'AND' questions)
I"m 'not' sorry for yelling but 'your' type of people frustrate me with your wading inot intelligent discussions with simplistic observations.

(4.) There have been some good counter arguements tomy guess at valves surprise. That the lack of a good ending when they had one for later download would jack off the media and jepordize the reviews is a good point. but then again not having a good ending and not having one to download is even worse.
That a downloadable chapter might happen but not be a continuation of the ending is a good point. It could be Alyx (but i dont think so cause i reckon they will save her for something more major). It could be Barney but that's been done in an expansion to HL1 hasn't it? So who does that leave he he? Dog of course, we can only hope. Where did he go after the chopper took him away?
Oh please let it be dawg.
 
^^^
I suppose that you didn't like the ending of Matrix:Reloaded either? And I hope that is the case otherwise your argument is invalid because that movie certainly raised far more questions than it answered. Far more than is the case with Half-Life 2.

And, by the way, before you start saying things like "your type of people", I suggest you gain some stature in the forum before you start throwing "your weight around", headcrab :p
 
SFLUFAN. I don't think i need your permission to say what i like in the forums. I guess you are the type of troll that jumps only to your own posts and the ones above and below it. Otherwise you would see that i was referencing L337's usage of the same phrase in relation to me. Try reading the whole thread before you make a fool of yourself next time.
And to your point. I never said that the middle part of a trilogy cant raise 'more' questions than it answres. This isn't about ratio or proportion. My point is that it's fine to raise more questions, more or less than it answers is not important but it has to at least answer some. Just to raise questions and answer none is what i'm contending.
As to the middle slice of Matrix. it answered many questions as well as posing more. It also (despite being a bit of a silly movie compared to Matrix 1) ended on a lovely cliffhanger/conundrum/question. The biggest of which was 'How did Neo get to use his powers outside the matrix. I enjoyed speculating on that for the short time it took for the follow up to arrive in the cinemas.
You see, you helped me prove my point. Matrix = decent cliff hanger HL2= poor cliff hanger.
 
i think the ending would have had more closure if it was a little harder.. that weapon at the end made things easier then they'd been for most of the game.. that part where waves of enemy were coming down the hallway at us was supposed to be difficult wasn't it?
i guess i could try 'hard' though..
 
Combine vs Resitance DM is brilliant. Agreed.
I'm sure we will see this one in the future whether it be valve or user made.
 
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