Van Buren/Fallout 3 text files.

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Poland strikes! Polish Falloutics managed to dissect the Van Buren tech demo and extract the text files (Ausir) and organize them (me) for public use. Interestingly, the text contains bits of dialogue files and PIP-Boy entries from the whole game, including Mesa Verde, the Grand Canyon and the Twin Mothers.

Download? Here!

Nostalgia? Yes.

But it shows the awesome quality of writing there :)
 
*sigh* I wish Bethesda would give up their enthusiastic but ultimately futile efforts and just give the funding to the ex-Black Isle guys so they can complete this game.
 
So, uh, where on the East coast does it take place? I'm feelin' some Hampton Roads action here...
 
According to the concept art, it will be Washington DC.
 
Shadow-warrior said:
*sigh* I wish Bethesda would give up their enthusiastic but ultimately futile efforts and just give the funding to the ex-Black Isle guys so they can complete this game.
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sigh...I wish you would shut the **** up with your whining...
 
Shadow-warrior said:
eeeeooooooo get you! handbags at dawn! did your boyfriend leave early without making you breakfast? :LOL:
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coming from someone with the hoff as avatar...how ironic...

seriously though untill you see the game and what bethesda has done with it, stop your whining...

fallout is way overrated...shouldn't be difficult for them to make a better game...
 
I agree Fallout is overrated, but judging from past games Bethesda are not the developers to make a decent sequel.
 
Oblivion = 1 sequel. Every thing Morrowind and before is legendary so you can't say they are crap at making sequels if that where true Morrowind would be total tripe.
 
I find it weird that Beth are constantly berated for degrading the Elder Scrolls series with Oblivion when I've heard nothing but complaints about Morrowind aswell.

Edit - Right, they made that too. Nevermind me :)

Edit2 - Wait, and Daggerfall? Same studio, different people or something?

I'm just gonna sit in a corner now.
 
PriNcE oF SpAcE said:
coming from someone with the hoff as avatar...how ironic...

seriously though untill you see the game and what bethesda has done with it, stop your whining...

fallout is way overrated...shouldn't be difficult for them to make a better game...
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Fallout is one of the best game series ever. Nowhere near overrated.

Something like Baldur's Gate or Planescape may be overrated, but not Fallout. Most newer games like Lionheart/Planescape opt for lamo realtime combat that pretty much ruins the whole game.
 
Bad^Hat said:
I find it weird that Beth are constantly berated for degrading the Elder Scrolls series with Oblivion when I've heard nothing but complaints about Morrowind aswell.
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You just discovered the fact that you cannot please everyone. Back in the days of Fallout there wasn't as many gamers as today with the large boost in the console market, hence more people bitch.
 
I just want to say a few things, hopefully someone will agree with me here

I think with the consoles now, there are much younger gamers out there, and they expect a level of gameplay as well. Computer gamers were generally older. The media explosion and the internet boom took place, and consoles are now the game kings. Point and click is old fashioned, and the younger generation is used to on-point gameplay like mario brothers, where your character moves instantly as you control it... things like that. They didn't used to have gamepads even. I'm not saying that point and click isn't a useful gameplay type, I'm actually just using that as an example of one of the older types of video game control schemes.

I'm an old school gamer, I've been playing games since the first commercial game pong!, and most every game ever made since, and there are certain things that I just don't get into anymore. Either I don't have time to read or listen to all of the dialog, or it's just been done to death - I've seen it all before.

for example, I loved morrowind. I loved being able to move in any direction, exploring the landscape, etc. It was amazing. Not the first time I had played a game like that, but very fresh and original non-the-less. There were times when I would listen to what the NPC's had to say, and get into the story, but for the most part, I just didn't give a shit, and would rapidly skip through everything anyone said, just to get to the game.

I think this is mostly from the fact that I have played SOO many ****ing games. I have always loved RPG's, but the dialog is so forced. Like you start a new game, you are a knight, in a town, you need to speak to the king, you have to talk to some villagers before the old lady moves out of the way so you can leave town. It's so ****ing generic, that if there was a good story there, I wouldn't care. It's more than a script and a story, it's why the **** am I here, and can't games throw you into the game better than "you start here"


And speaking of how I liked to skip through the written dialog in Morrowind, I - for the most part - do the same thing in oblivion. In some ways, it's horrible that in Morrowind they didn't use voice over dialog, and in some ways it's horrible that in Oblivion they did. Just make me care, keep it simple and brief, and have fantastic voice actors. Whoever did the voice for the Nord/orc wasn't very good, and why they decided to use the same guy for both of them.. ERRGgG, as if it wasn't repetitive enough. and then don't get me started on the Imperials, how ****ing annoying are they to listen to.

Then they would use the same exact verbal dialog for different sexes and races. I mean you can say the same thing, just say it in a different way. They even put the same accents on everything. I suppose it was rushed and a new thing for them to impliment, so therefore it was kind of buggy.

The elder scrolls 5 should be really nice after all of the fan outrage, they have been critiqued to the point where the rabid fans basically decided how the new game will work.

Anyway, and I think that many gamers felt the same way, and that is why Oblivion got consol-ified. More and more people that don't read books are now the majority, I think it's safe to say. When, in the times of computer games, books were more widely adopted. Dragonriders, lord of the rings, Dragonlance, dungeons and dragons, etc.

I mean, now you watch the lord of the rings in the theatre and do the whole series of movies it in a period of hours, as opposed to spending months reading the books, and I think games evolved right with it. Many people want things instantly now.

And back in the earlier days of video games, the graphics and gameplay were actually pretty bad except in the cases of some of the legends of the arcade and computer, and so therefore, the story was the only good part, and now, it seems it's the other way around - partly because this generation of programmers doesn't write as well, since they too didn't grow up reading lots of books, since they had NES nintendos and gameboys, and partly because the graphics and gameplay technology is so impressive now, that you just want more of that instead of reading.
 
I find myself leaning more and more towards instant satisfaction in games now, but then I am mostly a product of the Playstation generation.

For example, try as I might, I just can't seem to get into the Fallout or Baldur's Gate series. As much good things as I hear about them, I just can't find what's interesting about them on a gameplay level.

A game like KotoR, however, hooked me completely after the first half hour or so. Infact if KotoR was more challenging and open-ended, that'd pretty much be my perfect RPG. Maybe some more intuitive and interesting combat aswell... matter of fact, just roll on Mass Effect and instant gratification :D
 
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