Vatican Cardinal: Listen to What Modern Science Has to Offer

[Sulkdodds]

Maybe he's saying that gays should exercise self-control, stamp down on their sexual urges and live a celibate life.

But hang on a sec - why should they be punished for the way God made them?

 

[Absinthe]

Maybe he's saying that gays should exercise self-control, stamp down on their sexual urges and live a celibate life.

But hang on a sec - why should they be punished for the way God made them?

I can come up with a few answers for that.

1.) Satan made them.
2.) God is testing them (not others, but oh well).
3.) Some strange nonsense argument about how homosexuality is a result of free will.

The whole thing about celibacy for homosexuals doesn't make much sense to me. The person is still going to be attracted to males. He's still going to have "vile" urges. He can abstain from sex or screw hundreds of women if he wants to, but that won't change his sexual orientation. At the most, he's simply living a facade.
If the sexual act itself is a sin as opposed to sexual orientation, then surely the church wouldn't have issues with homosexual priests, right? It's not like they're going to be mating any way.

 

[CptStern]

I can come up with a few answers for that.

1.) Satan made them.
2.) God is testing them (not others, but oh well).
3.) Some strange nonsense argument about how homosexuality is a result of free will.

The whole thing about celibacy for homosexuals doesn't make much sense to me. The person is still going to be attracted to males. He's still going to have "vile" urges. He can abstain from sex or screw hundreds of women if he wants to, but that won't change his sexual orientation. At the most, he's simply living a facade.
If the sexual act itself is a sin as opposed to sexual orientation, then surely the church wouldn't have issues with homosexual priests, right? It's not like they're going to be mating any way.

isnt it "teased"? like when god teased Moses in the desert? :E

 

[el Chi]

Pope Pious XII made efforts to help the Catholic church embrace certain aspects of modern science, in the same way that current theistic cosmologists see the Big Bang as set in motion by God.
In fact, the bare principles of Big Bang theory were first posited by ordained priest Georges Lemaître.

Sorry - I just wrote an essay on this, so I'm finding it pretty interesting. Of course it's mainly picking and choosing, and of course many of the traditional atheistic arguments can be re-applied to these theories, but it's interesting to see these changes, albeit slow ones.