WAH, War Against Hormones: "straight porn will make you gay"

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it's bizarro world:

At the Values Voters Summit over the weekend, Sen. Tom Coburn's chief of staff opened a new front in the War Against Hormones (WAH) when he explained that if we tell teenage boys that straight porn will make them gay, they'll never touch the stuff again.

"All pornography is homosexual pornography,because all pornography turns your sexual drive inwards."
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O_O ......what?

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/...will-turn-them-gay-they-wont-want-playboy.php

this could probably go in the politics section but I wanted everybody to see how ****ing ridiculous these people are
 
Because seeing a huge penis drill into a wet, tight vagina will make teenage boys feel inadequate. Amirite?
 
I think they're saying the solution is gay porn. so from now on you guys can only look at gay porn
 
How about lesbian porn? No guys, so no anti-stimuli for our young teenage minds.
 
While I don't agree with this entirely, there is a bit of point sticking out from under the rubbish. Straight porn is all about the guy, even though much of the camera's focus is on the girl.
There existed rules in porn in the 70's and 80's (even the 90's?) about what noises the male could and couldn't make, and exactly how he had to copulate with the female. However, there are very infrequently shots of the male's face - no reaction shots showing enjoyment or pleasure. This was partially an attempt to make porn less gay - in modern porn, if you think about it, you're essentially masturbating to a guy enjoying himself. It's the male doing all the work, it's the male genitals that the camera focuses on, and it's the male orgasm that signals the end for the scene.
As Xevrex so rightly states, lesbian porn is an alternative, focusing as it does on merely what a heterosexual male would find attractive - naked females. However, even this classification technically should not appeal to males - the very existence of two females ****ing indicates that the male viewer can not participate, and is outside this scenario of sexual activity.

tl;dr the only porn that isn't gay is girls masturbating. Possibly.

Fags.
 
what a joke, everyone knows that porn is the cornerstone of a young man's journey into adulthood.

tl;dr the only porn that isn't gay is girls masturbating. Possibly.
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that would be considered gay porn, right?
 
I think Michael Schwartz would very much like an excuse to buy gay pornography.
 
KineticAesthetic said:
While I don't agree with this entirely, there is a bit of point sticking out from under the rubbish. Straight porn is all about the guy, even though much of the camera's focus is on the girl.
There existed rules in porn in the 70's and 80's (even the 90's?) about what noises the male could and couldn't make, and exactly how he had to copulate with the female. However, there are very infrequently shots of the male's face - no reaction shots showing enjoyment or pleasure. This was partially an attempt to make porn less gay - in modern porn, if you think about it, you're essentially masturbating to a guy enjoying himself. It's the male doing all the work, it's the male genitals that the camera focuses on, and it's the male orgasm that signals the end for the scene.
As Xevrex so rightly states, lesbian porn is an alternative, focusing as it does on merely what a heterosexual male would find attractive - naked females. However, even this classification technically should not appeal to males - the very existence of two females ****ing indicates that the male viewer can not participate, and is outside this scenario of sexual activity.

tl;dr the only porn that isn't gay is girls masturbating. Possibly.

Fags.
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On the other hand, seeing the guy can make you think "Hmm, I'm capable of doing what he's doing right here, maybe if I just imagine myself in his place doing this to the girl..." and then you're golden.
 
Absolutely; if you can just pretend it's you, then all gravy.
 
Stigmata said:
On the other hand, seeing the guy can make you think "Hmm, I'm capable of doing what he's doing right here, maybe if I just imagine myself in his place doing this to the girl..." and then you're golden.
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Exactly. Looking at it as if somebody is getting off because the guy is getting off is ridiculous.

It's because guys typically put themselves in the shoes of the guy and imagine it were them.
 
war against hormones? wtf? how you make war against a natural process of your body?

in that case just castrate them and problem solved

what next? war against pancreas?
 
KineticAesthetic said:

As Xevrex so rightly states, lesbian porn is an alternative, focusing as it does on merely what a heterosexual male would find attractive - naked females. However, even this classification technically should not appeal to males - the very existence of two females ****ing indicates that the male viewer can not participate, and is outside this scenario of sexual activity.
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You failed to point out something else more relevant about lesbian porn regarding this matter.

I for one enjoy it a lot for the idea of lesbianism. The wrongness of it, yet them being driven by their strange lust. It's a concept of homosexuality. Some of the same feelings one would have being turned on by gayness are present in someone being turned on by lesbianism. And vice versa... Therefore, a guy who enjoys lesbian porn (for more than the fact that it's just 2 women, I'm talking about the psychology, which is the most powerful aspect of a porn if you ask me) may have the same capacity to enjoy gay porn. Of course, it's not that simple, for straight guys are usually not interested in a naked male, much less 2 naked males getting it on. That turn-off overshadows and thus leaves dormant the desire for homosexuality in any form other than female.

I hope this made sense.
 
It's amazing that you can do that and you are pretty lucky.
 
No, it sucks. I've tried and you get there, touch it, then you try to go down far enough to make it work and your back starts hurting...

All in all the only thing I got from it was 'so that's what my dick tastes like [exactly like your other skin]'
 
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Wellllll I better start watching gay porn to get a good head start
 
KineticAesthetic said:
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You make an excellent point though! I suppose.

I love porn where the woman is clearly getting pleasure. The pussy is wet and you can see the shine and drip. The womans expression is hungry. That's the key, a vicious smile showing a ravenous hunger for pleasure. Yes you imagine it's you she's using for the pleasure. What a wonderful thing.

Strangely, i'm off lesbian porn completely? I just can't relate to it. I can't put myself in that scenario, i'm not a woman! Yes of course i'll still get hard and want spunk all over the screen but i will always prefer porn that involves a man.

Enjoy.
 
Maestro said:
No, it sucks. I've tried and you get there, touch it, then you try to go down far enough to make it work and your back starts hurting...

All in all the only thing I got from it was 'so that's what my dick tastes like [exactly like your other skin]'
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pics or it didn't happen.
 
KineticAesthetic said:
While I don't agree with this entirely, there is a bit of point sticking out from under the rubbish. Straight porn is all about the guy, even though much of the camera's focus is on the girl.
There existed rules in porn in the 70's and 80's (even the 90's?) about what noises the male could and couldn't make, and exactly how he had to copulate with the female. However, there are very infrequently shots of the male's face - no reaction shots showing enjoyment or pleasure. This was partially an attempt to make porn less gay - in modern porn, if you think about it, you're essentially masturbating to a guy enjoying himself. It's the male doing all the work, it's the male genitals that the camera focuses on, and it's the male orgasm that signals the end for the scene.
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Everything you said is wrong.
 
Raziaar said:
Looking at it as if somebody is getting off because the guy is getting off is ridiculous.
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Clearly they're not getting off because the guy is getting off. But in the most reductive (perhaps to a fault) way, that is technically what is happening.

Raziaar said:
It's because guys typically put themselves in the shoes of the guy and imagine it were them.
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I absolutely agree; that's why people like porn. But -
Mr-Fusion said:
I love porn where the woman is clearly getting pleasure. The pussy is wet and you can see the shine and drip. The womans expression is hungry. That's the key, a vicious smile showing a ravenous hunger for pleasure.
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For many people it's important that the participants in the PORNOGRAPHIC VIDEO are enjoying themselves, and I can understand that completely. I mean, who wants to see a limp, unresponsive person getting pounded by a stoic 'dick-on-legs'?

Some people, I'm sure. WHO AM I TO JUDGE
Vegeta897 said:
You failed to point out something else more relevant about lesbian porn regarding this matter.

I for one enjoy it a lot for the idea of lesbianism. The wrongness of it, yet them being driven by their strange lust. It's a concept of homosexuality. Some of the same feelings one would have being turned on by gayness are present in someone being turned on by lesbianism. And vice versa... Therefore, a guy who enjoys lesbian porn (for more than the fact that it's just 2 women, I'm talking about the psychology, which is the most powerful aspect of a porn if you ask me) may have the same capacity to enjoy gay porn. Of course, it's not that simple, for straight guys are usually not interested in a naked male, much less 2 naked males getting it on. That turn-off overshadows and thus leaves dormant the desire for homosexuality in any form other than female.

I hope this made sense.
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Yes. As I expected, there are many ways around my initial post, which was for all intents and purposes a broad, simplistic view. The way you're describing lesbian porn seems to focus on the excitement of the social taboo of homosexuality, without any of the gross icky ew latent homophobia of dicks and balls touching one another. That, and the fact (as I described above) that they're obviously enjoying themselves.
Krynn72 said:
Everything you said is wrong.
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Your mother is a syphilitic whore!

My post was not at all meant to be a cavalcade of inescapable, universal, empirical truths. People can like what ever porn they like (gay, lesbian, inter-racial, vanilla, kink) for a plethora of reasons, one as wide, if not wider, than the differences in people's sexual preferences. Porn preference, however, does not have to mirror sexual activity - it can be the excitement of something foreign, or the witnessing of a fantasy that will never happen, or simply the hotness of two (or more ! ! !) people enjoying themselves.

tl;dr, you're all fags and you didn't know it.
 
The only lesbien scenes i like is the mother daughter scenes, for some reason those turn me on the most. Also POV is the only way to go
 
KineticAesthetic said:
Clearly they're not getting off because the guy is getting off. But in the most reductive (perhaps to a fault) way, that is technically what is happening.
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I would say it's reductive to a fault.

AGREE TO DISAGREE
 
Reminds me of some really old copy pasta about how all porn is gay because you don't want to see a girl getting boned by a bunch of fat guys with tiny dicks, you want to see a bunch of hunky, sweaty men with monster cocks. The difference is that was a clearly a joke.
 
I don't think it makes me a homo if I watch porn featuring my girlfriend and I.
 
Makes sense to me. It's like drugs you see. You start off watching the normal stuff and wean yourself onto sticking dicks into your armpits.

Or at least I think that's how it works.
 
I only watch pornography because its educational and you learn new things to do with the mistress ;)
 
kupocake said:
Makes sense to me. It's like drugs you see. You start off watching the normal stuff and wean yourself onto sticking dicks into your armpits.

Or at least I think that's how it works.
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Only I've been watching porn for two years and I still have no desire to go beyond what I started out watching.
 
Well, I'm much older, but I've been watching porn for over 20 years and I'm a god damn sex addict. But honestly? I was a sex addict by the time I was 11, so that's why I watched porn. Duh.

(actually it was girls I liked in school or magazines until I was about 14 or 15, to be honest)

"Straight porn will make you gay" is completely bogus. Even if it said, "Can make you gay", still don't buy it, you see.

Perhaps homosexuals started off watching straight porn too, since it was readily available, and because they were discovering their sexuality, but eventually discovered they were attracted to the men? So, probably born that way you think? Maybe they didn't even know they were gay until they saw a man having sex on porn and lusted after it.
 
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