wall-e

[theotherguy]

I saw this movie at midnight last night, and I have to say, it was one of the most meaningful kid's movies I have ever seen. It was endearing, funny, beautiful, and most importantly, educational and inspiring. As a student of robotics, I saw many of the themes and ideas of robotics in this movie; and it also came with a message against environmental degradation and rampant consumerism. Wall-e was a lovable character, and even the humans showed a sense of wonder and curiosity which highlights the good in all of us.

Though the movie had many inaccuracies (especially in physics and astronomy), it will surely provide an inspiring and meaningful experience for children today, who will come of age in a world permeated by consumer robotics. This movie was sorely needed for the American robotics industry, and I hope that it will play the same role as Astro-boy did for the Japanese in eliminating the Frankenstein myth of American robotics, or at least placating it, and replacing it with the image of robots as our faithful friends and companions.

 

[Deleted member 56031]

aww good to hear i really want to see this movie

 

[Taboo]

I saw this at the premier aswell, but I was rather disappointed. I was expecting a strong environmental theme to find something along the lines of

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even if we completely destroy the environment we can live on an eternal cruise or start back over when we feel like it.

There were the physics bloopers as you mentioned, but I didn't like the idea that we use magnetic tape hundreds of years in the future. I dont even think any cassettes or VHS drives would survive that long in confinement.

Im willing to look over these things for the aesthetic appeal of the movie but one thing I could not get over was the fact that people became computer generated after 700 years. When they show the president or whoever that guy was from the past he appears as we do. People also appear that way in Walles movies although thats easier to believe because we have movies with people that are computer generated in them.

All in all, I was expecting an inspirational "you can change the world" kind of movie with a cute character, but was duped into watching a disney style baby love story until 2am. I dont think it measures up to Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc or Toystory, but I guess it would have been okay if I didnt have such high expectations.

 

[theotherguy]

I saw this at the premier aswell, but I was rather disappointed. I was expecting a strong environmental theme to find something along the lines of

Spoiler

even if we completely destroy the environment we can live on an eternal cruise or start back over when we feel like it.

There were the physics bloopers as you mentioned, but I didn't like the idea that we use magnetic tape hundreds of years in the future. I dont even think any cassettes or VHS drives would survive that long in confinement.

Im willing to look over these things for the aesthetic appeal of the movie but one thing I could not get over was the fact that people became computer generated after 700 years. When they show the president or whoever that guy was from the past he appears as we do. People also appear that way in Walles movies although thats easier to believe because we have movies with people that are computer generated in them.

All in all, I was expecting an inspirational "you can change the world" kind of movie with a cute character, but was duped into watching a disney style baby love story until 2am. I dont think it measures up to Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc or Toystory, but I guess it would have been okay if I didnt have such high expectations.

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Agree with the live-action people in the past and VHS tapes. Seriously, WTF?

I disagree with the environmental theme. The movie was never about the environment and shouldn't have been. The movie was always supposed to be about robotics and consumerism. The environment message was simply a back story from which the real story "humans die and leave a lone robot active" could be born. The cruise ship was only a plot device to show humans totally cared for by robots, and was probably not intended to represent human life in space.

I hated the puppy-love story, but, particularly at the end, it explored the idea of loving a machine with all its implications and caveats.

And of course, its getting horrid reviews because it was "boring" and didn't have any dialouge for the first 45 minutes. The first 45 minutes were the best part! I would have preferred the entire movie to be like that!

 

[Qonfused]

I want to see this movie.

 

[Cpt Tenacious]

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RIP Wall-E

 

[joule]

****, why'd I click that spoiler.

 

[AmishSlayer]

****, why'd I click that spoiler.

****, why didn't I read this post before I clicked that spoiler.

 

[Direwolf]

Fake spoiler.

Just got back from the theater and found Wall-E astoundingly good. Seriously, go see it. I'm about as nitpicky as any sane person should be, but complaining about stuff like live action Fred Willard just strikes me as hopelessly misguided and petty given the movie's quality.

 

[nofx]

I loved this movie, and I am very picky too. There is subtle humor and the graphics are amazing. Was anyone else reminded of portal?

 

[theotherguy]

I loved this movie, and I am very picky too. There is subtle humor and the graphics are amazing. Was anyone else reminded of portal?

If you're talking about the excellent short beforehand, YES! :thumbs:

 

[MiccyNarc]

Hell yes I was reminded of portal, from the amazing awesomeness throughout, to the evil robot overlord (who looked like a turret), to the amazing ending credits. Seriously, if you didn't like this movie there's something wrong with you.

All in all, I was expecting an inspirational "you can change the world" kind of movie with a cute character, but was duped into watching a disney style baby love story until 2am. I dont think it measures up to Finding Nemo, Monsters Inc or Toystory, but I guess it would have been okay if I didnt have such high expectations.

Your expectations must have been astronomical. I went in expecting a cute story about robots in love and got a hell of alot more. The movie is sheer genius from start to finish, period. Best Pixar movie ever.

 

[poo poo head]

I can see Pixar delivered again. I wish i had someone to go see it...

 

[theotherguy]

Things I noticed that deal with robotics:

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When wall-e adjusts his eyes, he is mimicking MIT's COG, which uses a similar procedure to adjust its stereoscopic vision.

The line following system in the ship is a common feature of robotics. NASA is currently working on a fully automated warehouse in which forklifts follow different-colored lines based on the color marker of a package it is given. The fact that the robots ran into each other, or became confused when they left a line is an example of common errors in line following systems. My university hosts an annual race in which robots must follow lines across campus in the fastest time. Many a team will fail when their robot gets slightly off the line, and then misinterprets lines in the grain of the concrete as lines it is supposed to follow.

When wall-e loses his memory, and EVE turns him around, a classic servo-clicking noise can be heard, caused by gear slippage in the servos.

Wall-e's memory is contained in a PCI servo controller with a molex power connector.

The title of the ship, "AXIOM" can mean "something taken for granted", which is exactly what the people on the ship did.

When EVE is being cleaned, the robots follow a clear, robotic procedure. When an item is missing (ie. where wall-e was), the robot scans nothing, pauses for a moment, and continues as if nothing were happening. The cleaner robot is also a classic example of what can go wrong with logic errors in robotic code. Since the cleaning robot's code specified it to fully cleanse a probe before moving onto the next one, the robot became overly obsessed with cleaning wall-e, even though wall-e was not even a probe.

The disabled robots in the repair ward were all examples of other coding errors, and most of them exhibited infinite loops due to sensor failure.

Diagnostic robotics, which is what EVE was going through, is considered somewhat of a holy grail of robotics. Since diagnostics are performed as a pattern of actions leading to a logical conclusion, there is considerable research going on to make a robot diagnose its own errors, or repair errors in other robots.

 

[Krynn72]

****, why didn't I read this post before I clicked that spoiler.

lol, I was just going to ignore it until I read his post. Then I clicked it and was like "****!"

 

[Sedako]

I ****ing clicked the spoiler too due to an ADD moment. God dammit!

 

[nofx]

Things I noticed that deal with robotics:

Spoiler

When wall-e adjusts his eyes, he is mimicking MIT's COG, which uses a similar procedure to adjust its stereoscopic vision.

The line following system in the ship is a common feature of robotics. NASA is currently working on a fully automated warehouse in which forklifts follow different-colored lines based on the color marker of a package it is given. The fact that the robots ran into each other, or became confused when they left a line is an example of common errors in line following systems. My university hosts an annual race in which robots must follow lines across campus in the fastest time. Many a team will fail when their robot gets slightly off the line, and then misinterprets lines in the grain of the concrete as lines it is supposed to follow.

When wall-e loses his memory, and EVE turns him around, a classic servo-clicking noise can be heard, caused by gear slippage in the servos.

Wall-e's memory is contained in a PCI servo controller with a molex power connector.

The title of the ship, "AXIOM" can mean "something taken for granted", which is exactly what the people on the ship did.

When EVE is being cleaned, the robots follow a clear, robotic procedure. When an item is missing (ie. where wall-e was), the robot scans nothing, pauses for a moment, and continues as if nothing were happening. The cleaner robot is also a classic example of what can go wrong with logic errors in robotic code. Since the cleaning robot's code specified it to fully cleanse a probe before moving onto the next one, the robot became overly obsessed with cleaning wall-e, even though wall-e was not even a probe.

The disabled robots in the repair ward were all examples of other coding errors, and most of them exhibited infinite loops due to sensor failure.

Diagnostic robotics, which is what EVE was going through, is considered somewhat of a holy grail of robotics. Since diagnostics are performed as a pattern of actions leading to a logical conclusion, there is considerable research going on to make a robot diagnose its own errors, or repair errors in other robots.

This is another reason why I enjoyed wall - e. The way Pixar used a bunch of a symbols to get across, my favorite part had to be the reference to 2001 Space Odyssey... I bet in ten years when the kids who see wall - e today watch it again they'll be amazed (I think there are some other kids movies like this today).

 

[theotherguy]

I ****ing clicked the spoiler too due to an ADD moment. God dammit!

The spoiler isn't true.

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RIP EVE.

 

[Oreolek]

I read all the posts and didn't click that spoiler.

 

[Laivasse]

I saw this last night and liked it a lot. It might not be the best film Pixar have made, but it's possibly the smartest.

I was able to forgive the whole magnetic tapes thing because that kind of 'retropocalypse' setting reminded me a bit of what the designers of Fallout were aiming for.

And also - I could be very wrong about this, but:

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Towards the end, when Eve is searching the shelves and compartments for spare parts to fix Wall-e, she browses past a garden gnome momentarily. It went by really quickly, but in that instant my impression was that it looked identical to the gnome that appears in HL2: Ep2. Anyone else know what I'm talking about? Warning: high chance of false alarm.

 

[Direwolf]

Yeah, saw the gnome but didn't think of it as a reference. Could be one though.

 

[theotherguy]

Yeah, saw the gnome but didn't think of it as a reference. Could be one though.

Same. I could imagine this movie is full of easter eggs from the artists.

 

[Sedako]

The garden gnome in the Travelocity commercials, HL2: Ep 2, and Amelie are based on some sort of prank that took place in Australia. I doubt it's a direct reference to Episode 2.

 

[MJ12]

This movie was brilliant. I almost got teary at some points from how mother****ing cute it was.

Very possibly my favorite Pixar Movie, and I was glad they had the who deeper consumerism aspect to it. There were a lot of subtly funny things too.
Anyways, I stayed until the end credits, I turned around and saw a guy and his lady making out all passionately, I couldn't help but think, "Yep Wall-E totally helped get this guy sexed tonight"

 

[Sedako]

I found the short that played before Wall-E in HD quality:

http://videolog.uol.com.br/video.php?id=343906

 

[Krynn72]

Must... resist... spoiler....


I'll probably see this later in the week with my mom.






SHUT UP.

 

[PoeticRocker]

10/10

The movie reminded me of Fallout and 2001: Space Odyssey at times.

I fall in love with the idea of a robot finding beauty in our world after we abandon it.

Now one of my most favorite Pixar films.

I F-ING love Pixar...

 

[jondy]

oh oh oh want want want

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

Loved the movie. Easily one of my favorite pixar films.

Also did anyone catch the Pizza Planet truck? I spent a bit of the beginning scanning the screen till it popped up.

 

[dfc05]

This movie was brilliant. I almost got teary at some points from how mother****ing cute it was.

Same here. Poor little lonely robot...;(

 

[Dalamari]

Watched it last night, it was pretty good, but not "OMG WALL-E" good. Wouldn't put it above Monsters Inc. or The Incredibles tbh

 

[staticprimer]

Watched it last night, it was pretty good, but not "OMG WALL-E" good. Wouldn't put it above Monsters Inc. or The Incredibles tbh

I would.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

Seconded. I think this is definitely one of Pixars best films.

 

[ShinRa]

1. wall-e
2. monsters inc
3. toy story
4. incredibles


hated everything else.

 

[Que-Ever]

Hated everything else? I fail to see how that is possible. On a scale of one to ten, all pixar movies fall in the range of 9.1-9.9

 

[Sheepo]

I wanna see this in a bad way.

 

[Adrik_Senturu]

Hated everything else? I fail to see how that is possible. On a scale of one to ten, all pixar movies fall in the range of 9.1-9.9

except cars. Thats more like a 7.

 

[PoeticRocker]

Cars was so lame...

So far my rank for top pixar movies:

1 Monster Inc
2 Toy Story 1 and 2
3 Wall-E
4 Ratatouille
5 Incredibles
6 Finding Nemo
7 Bug's Life
8 Cars

Why are these movies so damn magical!?!

 

[Sheepo]

I rather liked Cars, and I thought Toy Story 2 was overrated.

 

[Saturos]

Just watched Wall-E the other night. Man that movie was awesome.

Also, other than the lesson on preserving our environment for future generations, it also seemed to me that the movie was making a slight jab at mankind's over-dependence on technology.

(For those of you who have not yet seen the movie, you'll see.)

As a student of robotics

I envy you. You'd better put your engineering prowess to good use and design some awesome robots for us or I'll be coming after you damnit!

I'd get into prosthetics though if I were you. Our current prosthesis technology leaves much to be desired, as the current leaders in the field can barely re-create the dexterity of the human hand.

Though the movie had many inaccuracies (especially in physics and astronomy),

Explain. This kind of stuff really interests me.