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[Direwolf]

Only real "inaccuracy" I could be bothered by was the "tipping" of the Axiom towards the end. Since the gravity can be assumed to be artificial, you can't really tip the ship. I'm sure you might be able to tip the artificial gravity though.

 

[Lucid]

Is there really no dialogue for the first hour of this? :|
Sounds like it would be incredibly dull.

 

[KagePrototype]

Is there really no dialogue for the first hour of this? :|
Sounds like it would be incredibly dull.

Not true, there's just very little. And it's far from dull, it's unbearably cute and awesome. :3 Good animation is about body language, not dialogue.

 

[Viperidae]

Loved the pixel art in the credits (how many of you stayed that long?).

 

[theotherguy]

Explain. This kind of stuff really interests me.

1. Planet was very small in comparison to the relative sizes of the satellites, wall-e, and the space-ship.

2. If there were that many satellites in orbit, there would be nothing but a cloud of powdered metal orbiting the earth.

3. As wall-e passes through the satellites, he is perceived as going at the same speed as them. They bump into him with ill effect. In reality, these satellites would be traveling thousands of miles an hour relative to wall-e and would completely disintegrate both the robot and the ship.

4. As wall-e flies through space, you see him in front of a galaxy. The size of the galaxy suggests that he would be billions of light-years away, but in the next scene, he is shown touching the rings of Saturn.

5. The sun would have melted wall-e and the space-ship.

6. Many in related to gravity. Particularly, the welding robot outside of the ship, and the fact that the ship can be "tipped". This simply would not work. Not even if the ship had artificial gravity.

7. When the axiom enters the atmosphere, it is shown landing gracefully. This could not happen. First of all, the surface area of the ship is so great that it would experience extreme friction upon entering the atmosphere. It would be going incredibly fast because it would have to get into orbit before landing. After it entered the atmosphere, it would have had no aerodynamic lift, and it would have simply crashed to Earth as a flaming hulk.

8. Modern speech synthesizers are much better than any of the robots' in wall-e, besides, of course "the computer."

 

[Saturos]

1. Planet was very small in comparison to the relative sizes of the satellites, wall-e, and the space-ship.

True.

2. If there were that many satellites in orbit, there would be nothing but a cloud of powdered metal orbiting the earth.

Similar fact as above, but also true. The satellites viewed from the distance shown on the movie would have looked more like a "grayish powder" rather than actual satellites because of the great distance.

3. As wall-e passes through the satellites, he is perceived as going at the same speed as them. They bump into him with ill effect. In reality, these satellites would be traveling thousands of miles an hour relative to wall-e and would completely disintegrate both the robot and the ship.

This, is a little more difficult for me to understand.

4. As wall-e flies through space, you see him in front of a galaxy. The size of the galaxy suggests that he would be billions of light-years away, but in the next scene, he is shown touching the rings of Saturn.

Yes. In fact, I knew you were going to bring this up! :> I LOL'ed at that scene.

5. The sun would have melted wall-e and the space-ship.

This may not be as true. Extreme heat and solar energy would probably fry Wall-e's electrical systems, but even at that close a distance, I don't see how it could 'melt' them. How hot would it be that close to the sun, and what is the melting point for steel and iron? Plus, remember too that that ship was 'futuristic' :>. Maybe it was made from some kind of super durable exotic alloy or something?

6. Many in related to gravity. Particularly, the welding robot outside of the ship, and the fact that the ship can be "tipped". This simply would not work. Not even if the ship had artificial gravity.

This makes sense though too. In space, there is no, 'center of gravity'. The ship itself 'is' the center of gravity, so tipping it would not disturb it's contents, it would only rotate in space.

7. When the axiom enters the atmosphere, it is shown landing gracefully. This could not happen. First of all, the surface area of the ship is so great that it would experience extreme friction upon entering the atmosphere. It would be going incredibly fast because it would have to get into orbit before landing. After it entered the atmosphere, it would have had no aerodynamic lift, and it would have simply crashed to Earth as a flaming hulk.

Aye, this also be true.

8. Modern speech synthesizers are much better than any of the robots' in wall-e, besides, of course "the computer."

LOL, I wouldn't have realized this had no body said anything, but yes, even our voice synthesizers of today are better at replicating human speech.

 

[Krynn72]

Nerds.


Movie was awesome.

 

[-Kashmir-]

Nerds.


Movie was awesome.

I prefer the term geek, thank you.

 

[Viperidae]

I did! And I loved it too. I want someone to recreate it :<

I vote Vegeta go to the task.

And I don't mind the inaccuracies in the movie. I think we kind of abandoned realism when all of humanity went up into space to ride around on little hovercrafts while consuming their food through straws.

/same

One thing that amazed me during the movie is that none of the scenes between Wall-e and Eve seemed overly cheesy or forced. Even the 'kiss' was subtle enough to not be groan-worthy.

 

[Direwolf]

A couple of notes on the inaccuracies:

We see him touching a Saturn-like planet. Theres no real indication how far he traveled or how distant the ship was from earth.

As for the "tipping" scene, while it's the most obviously not-quite-real thing in the movie, it also doesn't pay to speculate just how a fictional version of artificial gravity functioned. It could run on coal and you could never be certain that that was wrong .

Lastly, since they have artificial gravity and faster than light travel, it's hardly a stretch to think that they have some kind of anti-gravity capability on the Axiom. Meaning that they wouldn't have to fall into orbit around earth and could just simply perform a slow and steady drop for re-entry. This of course assumes that the ship isn't made out of some crazy future-metal anyway.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

****ing cute.

 

[AmishSlayer]

Did they ever explain why Wall-e was the ONLY wall-e model that didn't shut down or why he gained a personality?

I was looking for clues as to why, but I didn't see any.

 

[nurizeko]

I just saw it. Oh my god. Oh my GOD. It was so beautiful, I couldn't stop grinning through the first half and I just wanted to hug everything. Oh my god. I loved it. Oh my god. Oh my god.

howeverrrr....

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I sort of wanted WALL-E and EVE to go back to Earth alone, rather than bringing everyone else back with them. I don't really care about humans, I just like the idea of the robots snuggling in a cozy post-apoc world. That's the cutest thing ever, to me. It wasn't nearly enough to change my opinion on the film, though. I still thought it was beautiful and amazing and so lovely and goddammit I just want to cuddle with it. All of it. Oh my god. SO CUTE. SO GODDAMN CUTE.

This post came across in an awfully girlishly excited way and then I remembered you are in fact, a girl. :imu:

1. Planet was very small in comparison to the relative sizes of the satellites, wall-e, and the space-ship.

2. If there were that many satellites in orbit, there would be nothing but a cloud of powdered metal orbiting the earth.

3. As wall-e passes through the satellites, he is perceived as going at the same speed as them. They bump into him with ill effect. In reality, these satellites would be traveling thousands of miles an hour relative to wall-e and would completely disintegrate both the robot and the ship.

4. As wall-e flies through space, you see him in front of a galaxy. The size of the galaxy suggests that he would be billions of light-years away, but in the next scene, he is shown touching the rings of Saturn.

5. The sun would have melted wall-e and the space-ship.

6. Many in related to gravity. Particularly, the welding robot outside of the ship, and the fact that the ship can be "tipped". This simply would not work. Not even if the ship had artificial gravity.

7. When the axiom enters the atmosphere, it is shown landing gracefully. This could not happen. First of all, the surface area of the ship is so great that it would experience extreme friction upon entering the atmosphere. It would be going incredibly fast because it would have to get into orbit before landing. After it entered the atmosphere, it would have had no aerodynamic lift, and it would have simply crashed to Earth as a flaming hulk.

8. Modern speech synthesizers are much better than any of the robots' in wall-e, besides, of course "the computer."

Kid movie. Mystery solved.

Just like you can suspend your disbelief when watching something like Cloverfield, even though the existence of the monster is so improbable you'd probably figure your having a bad dream/hallucinating before believing something is in fact smashing up New York and creating scenes reminiscent of 9/11 to touch that nerve.

Did they ever explain why Wall-e was the ONLY wall-e model that didn't shut down or why he gained a personality?

I was looking for clues as to why, but I didn't see any.

Kid movie.

Plus Earth was abandoned for 700 years. Earths big enough for some Wall-E units to be kicking about unawares of each other.

 

[AmishSlayer]

I think it was implied that he took better care of himself than the other models, with the way that he took parts from models that shut down.

And all science fiction robots become sentient if you give them enough time.

That's kind of circular logic to say that the only reason he didn't shut down because he used parts from shut down models...because why did THEY shut down?

Oh well, it's a mystery.

 

[Tollbooth Willie]

He developed a personality from the "Put on Your Sunday Clothes" from "Hello Dolly!" that he constantly watches and listens to. Just a guess.

 

[theotherguy]

True.

Similar fact as above, but also true. The satellites viewed from the distance shown on the movie would have looked more like a "grayish powder" rather than actual satellites because of the great distance.

This, is a little more difficult for me to understand.



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I didn't mean that they would LOOK like grayish powder, but that they would literally BE grayish powder, because if there were truly that many in orbit, a slight change in the phase of the orbit of any satellite would cause them to collide and turn into a cloud of debris. This would cause a chain reaction until all of the satellites were disabled.

As for the satellites bumping off wall-e, let me put it this way. The ship was moving perpendicular to the ground. While it is doing this the satellites are orbiting the Earth, and the Earth is turning beneath them. What this means is that the satellites would not at all appear stationary to the ship as it traveled through the atmosphere. In fact, they would appear to be moving at thousands of miles an hour. If any one of them really struck the ship at this speed, there would be a massive explosion, and the satellite would turn into nothing but metallic dust, which would make the space ship look like swiss cheese. However, in the movie you can see satellites simply bouncing off wall-e and floating merrily away.

 

[nurizeko]

Kids movie.

 

[Doppelgofer]

Did they ever explain why Wall-e was the ONLY wall-e model that didn't shut down or why he gained a personality?

I was looking for clues as to why, but I didn't see any.

'writer/director Andrew Stanton has consistently said that the essential concept behind the character of WALL?E is, "what if mankind had to leave earth, and somebody forgot to turn off the last robot?"'

 

[MiccyNarc]

Remember when the CEO guy ran to the bunker, after issuing the directive that humans were not to return to earth. That's when they threw in the towel. And that's when Wall E became the last one.

 

[ríomhaire]

Loved this film with only a few complaints.

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• I didn't mind most of the bad science but the one thing that bothered me is the ship turning sideways and everyone going sideways too. Doesn't make sense.
• I think the development of John, Mary, the captain Eve, Wall-E, the cleaning robot and the secretary robot (however briefly it was in it) was done well but the development of everything else seemed really rushed and absurd (the broken robots for no apparent reason become the free-thought robots, the giant Wall-E's become friends for no reason and the people are all like "Let's go to Earth yeah!" for no real reason)
• A spark between Eve's and Wall-E's heads somehow copy the memories from Wall-E's previous brain onto the new one. WTF? A an ending with Wall-E being reset and Eve trying to re-teach him stuff over time would have been better IMO.

 

[Direwolf]

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Not sure why everyone assume that Eve's spark has some kind of magical restoration ability on Wall-E, it's just as easy to assume that a sudden voltage jump could kick an old piece of hardware back on-line.

 

[ríomhaire]

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She replaced his fecking main circuit.

 

[Direwolf]

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I wouldn't even begin to speculate on how you construct a futuristic garbage-collection robot. Where would his personality be stored? On his main-board? On a hard drive somewhere? In active memory? All three?

 

[Sulkdodds]

This was absolutely fantastic.

Although I was disappointed that

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the beginning was so choreographed - I expected a barren 30 minutes with no music, no dialogue, and verite camera angles on Wall-E trundling about a junk wilderness and playing with car keys. It would certainly have been a brave achievement to hold the attention of kids and families while still breaking all the rules of American cinema. Still, it's churlish to complain about a post-apocalyptic wonderland which, with heavy echoes of Fallout, ably set up the storyline and the film's moral message.

Wall-E himself is utterly compelling, as are all the film's characters, from the Captain to the smallest cleaner. The screaming rogue leisure machines were particularly great, just this collection of enthusiastic auto-parasols and hoverloungers crashing about the place, a joyful reification. Further, all the relationships between the characters, and all their journeys, were perfectly handled. A love story? A coming-to-senses? A re-education about the joys of life? It all had the potential to be so crashingly cheesy. It wasn't.

But I think that some of the best characters were those who had no voices and no stories - the scenery, the ship's systems, the dead Wall-Es that were evocative of so much loss of faith and so much fatal cost-cutting (the implication seemed to be that they were not fit for the job, but were products, designed to appeal to a captive global market...BnL sells the solution for the disease it caused. Most importantly, the mechanisms themselves are a constant source of joy. Every second it seems like something cool folds out of something awesome, just like how the film is a continual parade of new joys constantly whirring and clicking out from hatches, holes and gratings.

I have no qualms about declaring this the best Pixar movie yet.

Clever things:

- people turn red when they get 'woken'

- the skyscrapers are revealed to be actually literally mountains of junk

- the vital, 'real', past humans were depicted in live-action full colour, while the podgy pampered current humans are rendered in a smooth shiny CG that, by commenting on their isolation from their environments or anything resembling an active life, also handily serves to take the piss out of the dozens of awful, flat, poorly-art-directed computer creations whose trailers I was forced to sit through just to watch this wonderful film.

- at the end, the BnL logo flashed up to remind you that you were enjoying this anti-consumerist message in a cinemaplex, watching huge amounts of adverts, paying money to Disney, a multinational corporation.

By the way otherguy, the robotics stuff was really interesting. I'd sort of figured some similar stuff myself regarding the lines and logic errors, albeit from an ill-informed layman's

This movie was brilliant. I almost got teary at some points from how mother****ing cute it was.

Very possibly my favorite Pixar Movie, and I was glad they had the who deeper consumerism aspect to it. There were a lot of subtly funny things too.
Anyways, I stayed until the end credits, I turned around and saw a guy and his lady making out all passionately, I couldn't help but think, "Yep Wall-E totally helped get this guy sexed tonight"

That guy...was me.

okay not really but the exact same thing did happen in the row in front of us.