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[Razor]

95% of Martial Arts is useless in a street fight. But the black guy just looked like some stupid Chav who was all talk and no action. And i would have to agree with Grey Fox, all of these stupid "oh my gosh, look at this guy get hit by a train", "get decapitated by a maniac with a sword", "get hit by a car and ripped open", "brutally beaten up", "fighting in the streets", etc, etc, etc is absolutely disgusting.

I don't come to a family orientated forum to watch people get hit by trains, cars or anything else where a person in the video ends up injured or dead.

 

[craig]

Damn, it ends as it's just getting started. Boo!!

 

[Raziaar]

95% of Martial Arts is useless in a street fight. But the black guy just looked like some stupid Chav who was all talk and no action. And i would have to agree with Grey Fox, all of these stupid "oh my gosh, look at this guy get hit by a train", "get decapitated by a maniac with a sword", "get hit by a car and ripped open", "brutally beaten up", "fighting in the streets", etc, etc, etc is absolutely disgusting.

I don't come to a family orientated forum to watch people get hit by trains, cars or anything else where a person in the video ends up injured or dead.

Why do people keep calling him the black guy? Because of his clothing? I don't think he's black, I think he's latino/mexican.

And I agree with the whole violence thing. It makes me queasy. I will never willingly watch a person actually die. I hate that kind of stuff... my body just immediately goes into sweaty/disgusted mode if I know or felt it was a real person who actually died.

 

[LittleB]

And I agree with the whole violence thing. It makes me queasy. I will never willingly watch a person actually die. I hate that kind of stuff... my body just immediately goes into sweaty/disgusted mode if I know or felt it was a real person who actually died.

Yeah me too. And sadly, violence likes this makes me angry, and I wanna beat people like that up. It's a struggle to stay good.

 

[Razor]

Why do people keep calling him the black guy? Because of his clothing? I don't think he's black, I think he's latino/mexican.

And I agree with the whole violence thing. It makes me queasy. I will never willingly watch a person actually die. I hate that kind of stuff... my body just immediately goes into sweaty/disgusted mode if I know or felt it was a real person who actually died.

Well, it was either that or call him the bald guy .

 

[craig]

Why do people keep calling him the black guy? Because of his clothing? I don't think he's black, I think he's latino/mexican.

And I agree with the whole violence thing. It makes me queasy. I will never willingly watch a person actually die. I hate that kind of stuff... my body just immediately goes into sweaty/disgusted mode if I know or felt it was a real person who actually died.

That's adrenaline isn't it? The whole 'fight or flight' thing. I agree when I watch fights / am involved in them it's a mixture of a queezy feeling and a euphoric feeling

 

[Raziaar]

That's adrenaline isn't it? The whole 'fight or flight' thing. I agree when I watch fights / am involved in them it's a mixture of a queezy feeling and a euphoric feeling

Well, I don't mean when i'm actually there in person. I mean if I watch something. Someone once sent me a video of those faces of death thing, one of the short clips. I was watching, not knowing what it was, and saw a woman get instantly mutilated and killed by an explosion. I was traumatized for months after that, unable to get it out of my head. I still play it back in my mind now, and I can see it... but at least i'm not feeling like vomiting.

Seriously, that kind of thing disturbs me to no end... and I never want to become desensitized to violence. I'd sooner be weak around it, than uncaring( or worse, entertained) when it happens.

 

[SimonomiS]

Its that whole playground thing, getting round in a circle and watching. Something built into the human psyche or a left over from the Roman's past-times?

I personally enjoy watching fights (school-type fights), perhaps because of my age.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

Hehe, I wasn't meaning to sound like that if I did at all.

Truthfully, you did'nt -- I respect the emotions that come up after witnessing a fight. We want to be secure, and we want to exert a dominance and sort of excitement when these situations arise.

I'm glad none in the video were seriously hurt, but it does me good to play bad cop and root for the home team when one lone, gangster wannabe gets goofed.

 

[K e r b e r o s]

95% of Martial Arts is useless in a street fight.

Everyone whose not involved in a Martial Art see's them as pointless because their trying to maintain a security in their own choices. Their are certain disciplines and certain people that could put any normal or expert Street Fighter to a test from which they'd never get up willingly from.

Kava Maga.

 

[Razor]

Well, I don't mean when i'm actually there in person. I mean if I watch something. Someone once sent me a video of those faces of death thing, one of the short clips. I was watching, not knowing what it was, and saw a woman get instantly mutilated and killed by an explosion. I was traumatized for months after that, unable to get it out of my head. I still play it back in my mind now, and I can see it... but at least i'm not feeling like vomiting.

Seriously, that kind of thing disturbs me to no end... and I never want to become desensitized to violence. I'd sooner be weak around it, than uncaring( or worse, entertained) when it happens.

Even though you are my sworn enemy, i will agree with you 100%.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Everyone whose not involved in a Martial Art see's them as pointless because their trying to maintain a security in their own choices. Their are certain disciplines and certain people that could put any normal or expert Street Fighter to a test from which they'd never get up willingly from.

Kava Maga.

I've never ever seen Kava Maga practised... I'd really like to, I like dirrect martial arts.

Muay Thai is what I used to train, with a little tai kwon do (didnt like that so much), doing a little jujitsu now and i've done judo in the past amoungst other things..


Martial arts is my hobby, my passion. :thumbs:

 

[K e r b e r o s]

I've never ever seen Kava Maga practised

Kava Maga is practised -- you can witness its practise on UFC. I can't be choosey on styles, because everythings nuetral until an individual uses it to an effect. If one style is the best you can use, and the fighter using it is'int as disciplined as the person he is facing, it honestly does'nt mean that style is at fault -- but circumstance; something that fighter will need to reflect upon thereafter. I hate to sound combative to so many people ...

But just remember (other people) that with skill and determination, and an honest courageousness, anything can be practised effectively -- and anything can be achieved. Sorry to skit on street fighters -- but most people don't know the different between Street Fighting, and the occasional slug in a parking lot. I just see that there's a difference -- at least, from what I've witnessed.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Kava Maga is practised -- you can witness its practise on UFC. I can't be choosey on styles, because everythings nuetral until an individual uses it to an effect. If one style is the best you can use, and the fighter using it is'int as disciplined as the person he is facing, it honestly does'nt mean that style is at fault -- but circumstance; something that fighter will need to reflect upon thereafter. I hate to sound combative to so many people ...

But just remember (other people) that with skill and determination, and an honest courageousness, anything can be practised effectively -- and anything can be achieved. Sorry to skit on street fighters -- but most people don't know the different between Street Fighting, and the occasional slug in a parking lot. I just see that there's a difference -- at least, from what I've witnessed.

Yah, I didnt mean it wasnt practised just to be clear, i just meant I personally have not seen it.

And I absolutely agree, I've not met a style that isnt usefull in some way (allthough some clubs are really poor...) and its allways down to the individual and the circumstances.



I've done a shit load of martial arts really... but it didnt stop me getting my head kicked in when I was blind drunk lol

 

[BF2slut]

That was an awesome video. I'm tired of seeing my white brothers and sisters made fun of by the Latin community. It's time we took a stand and defend our selves!

Martial Arts is useless in a street fight? I beg to differ!

In other news, I have to poop.

 

[Razor]

The best Martial Art interms of

1 vs 1 is Brazilian Juijitsu
1 vs many (you're outnumbered) is Thai Boxing aka Muay Thai
Self Defence for normal people against an armed/unarmed assailant is Krav Maga.

This is why the majority of the top UFC fighters train in mixed martial arts primarily focusing on grappling, wrestling and Juijutisu. The advantages of grappling and especially Brazilian Juijitsu in a 1 vs 1 combat situation, street fight or otherwise, can be seen in the numerous videos featuring one of the Gracies.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

The best Martial Art interms of

1 vs 1 is Brazilian Juijitsu
1 vs many (you're outnumbered) is Thai Boxing aka Muay Thai
Self Defence for normal people against an armed/unarmed assailant is Krav Maga.

Its best not to generalise, but yah. I would agree that jujitsu (and BJJ) are limited when it comes to more than one opponent..

Muay Thai is pretty good against multiple people i guess.

Dunno anything about Krav Maga really. One day..




Wing Tzun is good as well in my experience... my brother tought me some technique from it years ago..

I like escrima, you can adapt the techniques for use in openhand fighting quite well.



Bah, I best stop talking, once you get me started on this subject I don't usually shut up...

 

[Razor]

That was an awesome video. I'm tired of seeing my white brothers and sisters made fun of by the Latin community. It's time we took a stand and defend our selves!

Martial Arts is useless in a street fight? I beg to differ!

In other news, I have to poop.

If you were replying to me, i said "95% of Martial Arts is useless in a street fight."

What i ment was that too many people who are black belts in things like Karate and especially the westernised version of TaeKwonDo walk into fights against people in the street, either through self defence or otherwise, and expect to kick their arses. When taking on an opponent, you must know their particular style of combat.
Something like a yob in the street who has experience in fights but no martial arts experience, i would put money onto win over a black belt in Karate if it was a street fight. Karate suffers from this problem and especially Tae Kwon Do, Tae Kwon Do focuses primarily on kicks which is a longer range attack and you get beaten to pulp if the opponent can get to within 2 feet of you where the power and effectiveness of kicks is severely degraded to being much less than a basic punch. Random brawling enables the yob to quickly move from kicks, but mainly punches, to ground work. The biggest advantage that something like Muay Thai has over all the other kicking/punching martial arts is the fact that it teachs you to strike with long range, medium range and short range attacks, kicks, punches and knee jabs/elbow jabs. The advantage that Juijitsu has over anything else is that if you are gotten hold of by someone who knows Juijitsu, no matter how big and strong you are compared to the opponent, you are beaten. The area where Juijitsu fails miserably though is that it doesn't teach how to engage in combat against multiple people, a kick or punch takes far less then a second when done properly, so you can hit multiple areas of a target or multiple targets in less then a couple of seconds. Juijitsu and other grappling techniques require you to devote far to much time to a single target, whilst his mate is kicking the crap out of you. Another problem with Juijitsu is that if you can't get a good hold on your opponent and can't get close to them, your finished. Same as if you are a master in Karate, Kung Fu, etc, and the opponent gets to close to them. You will also find that the huge majority of people who do fight in UFC and street fights as a professional or amateur, are training in Mixed Martial Arts, getting rid of all of their weaknesses when it comes to the arts they are practicing, the only weaknesses coming from experience, skill, size, strength, power and speed.

 

[Razor]

Its best not to generalise, but yah. I would agree that jujitsu (and BJJ) are limited when it comes to more than one opponent..

Muay Thai is pretty good against multiple people i guess.

Dunno anything about Krav Maga really. One day..




Wing Tzun is good as well in my experience... my brother tought me some technique from it years ago..

I like escrima, you can adapt the techniques for use in openhand fighting quite well.



Bah, I best stop talking, once you get me started on this subject I don't usually shut up...

Krav Maga is a pure defensive and fighting style, can't really call it a martial art is it isn't an art form. It can be picked up extremely quickly and anyone can be trained in it, people of both sexes and all physical abilities, perhaps not the really unfit or really fat people. It originates from the Israeli Defence force and is taught to a number of special forces and police forces around the world, so it is battle proven in the most hostile of situations.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

There are far too many.. whats the term... ah yes. Mcdojo's!



My old taekwondo class was one sadly... I went because I wanted to learn ballance and flexibility with kicking (I learnt to fight at muay thai..)



It alllll depends on where you train, I had a friend who was blackbelt in karate, but he deserved that belt. I've seen him train, hes damn impresive. I've seen him duck a hook I could quite easily got hit by (It was without any warning - ie cheap shot sucker punch)

Yah... gota go sleep.

 

[marksmanHL2 :)]

Krav Maga is a pure defensive and fighting style, can't really call it a martial art is it isn't an art form. It can be picked up extremely quickly and anyone can be trained in it, people of both sexes and all physical abilities, perhaps not the really unfit or really fat people. It originates from the Israeli Defence force and is taught to a number of special forces and police forces around the world, so it is battle proven in the most hostile of situations.

Yeah, cheers, all I really knew about it was that it came from the Israeli defence force. I guessed it wasnt an old style too since I only heard of it relatively recently.

EDIT: Sleeeeeeep!

 

[K e r b e r o s]

What i ment was that too many people who are black belts in things like Karate and especially the westernised version of TaeKwonDo walk into fights against people in the street, either through self defence or otherwise, and expect to kick their arses. When taking on an opponent, you must know their particular style of combat.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[johnshafft]

You cant be serious?! (About the punch being good and solid!)

He flailed, he hit with what could possibly be described as a hammer fist at best....

He was lucky, and his apponent was just the definition of crap.

he was uncoordinated baecause he was a MA newbie fighting some 'street tough' He looked like he was flailing because he had fear when he got compsure and realised he successful blocked an untraditional punch which was his oppoents first attack, he followed through with a succesful hit. The hit was solidly to where the jaw connects which is one of the best strike points(that was luck), as a glancing hit wouldnt have downed the thug.

 

[Raziaar]

Even though you are my sworn enemy, i will agree with you 100%.

Sworn enemy? Bah... <takes up ninjitsu karate stance> Have at me, you heathen!