Washington Post Poll

[wankster]

The Washington Post did a poll the other day, it went as following:

What are your feelings on the religion of Islam?

The results showed that 48%, thats right 48%, of people admitted to having prejudices about Islam. Some of that population felt that the religion itself harbored bad notions towards non-Muslims. If there is anyone here who have a prejudice against Islam, I urge you to got the following website, and order a free Quran, and read it. You will then see what the true Islam is like. Remember, it is completely free of charge; you simply provide your address, and they will send it to you. To my fellow Muslims in this forum, we must show people that these prejudices are wrong by setting a good example with our actions.

Below is the link to the website:

http://www.cair-net.org/default.asp

Also, if you simply want to learn about the religion, go to this website:

www.islamicity.com

Also, I will do my own poll, so please cast your opinion.


Here are the poll options-

1.I have no prejudices against it, and feel that it is a peaceful religion.

2.Most of the time, I think I have no prejudices against it, yet still, I occasionally feel uncomfortable around Muslims.

3.I hold a mild prejudice against Islam.

4.I hold a large prejudice against Muslims.

5.I hold a large prejudice against Muslims, and the religion of Islam itself.

 

[MiccyNarc]

You're too late.
(caption on last one: Raise your hand if you can't take a joke)
EDIT: By the way, actions speak louder than words.

 

[wankster]

So your racist?:frown:

 

[BabyHeadCrab]

I'm prejudice against all organized religion.. so yeah.

Also to wankster.. what the hell does this have to do with race?

 

[63]

http://forum.facepunchstudios.com/smartness.php

Wankster = banned.

 

[Qonfused]

You're too late.
(caption on last one: Raise your hand if you can't take a joke)
EDIT: By the way, actions speak louder than words.

QFT, tbh.

 

[Shodan]

So your racist?:frown:

So you like starting fights and stirring shit?

 

[DeusExMachina]

Hmm, a free Quran? I would like to broaden my knowledge.

 

[koondrad]

Northern Ireland doesn't look too good for Christians and let's not forget the Crusades or the Inquisition.

 

[Ikerous]

I dislike stupid people of any religion
(which is probaly the feelings of most ppl)

 

[MiccyNarc]

OMG I CAN PLAY TEH RACE CARD!! RAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!

Islam is a religion, not a race.

Northern Ireland doesn't look too good for Christians and let's not forget the Crusades or the Inquisition.

There are many bastardizations of Christianity, alot perpetuated by the Catholic church.
None of them can be supported in the New Testament.
Something most don't realize is that the New Testament is the basis for the Christian religion, the Old Testament is merely backstory.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Old Testament is better. God wasn't afraid to lay the smackdown every now and then. He turned into a total left-wing hippy in the New Testament.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Old Testament is better. God wasn't afraid to lay the smackdown every now and then. He turned into a total left-wing hippy in the New Testament.

Okay I have to admit I laughed at this.

I prefer the kinder, gentler, "love everybody" side of God. There will be one last great royal smackdown in the end, though.

 

[Qonfused]

Old Testament is better. God wasn't afraid to lay the smackdown every now and then. He turned into a total left-wing hippy in the New Testament.

Hahhahaahahahahahahahahaa. Someone sig this; it's too good not to be.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Hahhahaahahahahahahahahaa. Someone sig this; it's too good not to be.

Done and done :thumbs:

 

[DeusExMachina]

haha .

 

[Ikerous]

There are many bastardizations of Christianity, alot perpetuated by the Catholic church.
None of them can be supported in the New Testament.
Something most don't realize is that the New Testament is the basis for the Christian religion, the Old Testament is merely backstory.

4,000 years of God's (Jesus') word is merely backstory
Seems like just an excuse to avoid thinking about why he was so mean in the OT

But thats completely off topic, so pretend this post doesn't exist

 

[MiccyNarc]

I'd be scared of any Christian that applied OT principles to our modern lives.
And yes, it is merely backstory as Christianity can stand solely on the NT.

 

[Ikerous]

I'd be scared of any Christian that applied OT principles to our modern lives.
And yes, it is merely backstory as Christianity can stand solely on the NT.

Of course it could, it could also stand solely on the book of Mathew
But then you'd be missing out all the information about Jesus is the 20 some other books of the NT, which is clearly not a good idea
(it's a bad idea because you're only getting a small picture of who Jesus is and who He wants you to be)
The old testament is the same way (Assuming you believe God = Jesus)

My point, simply put, is that if you find the God the old testament insane, then you also find Jesus insane

 

[MiccyNarc]

I don't find the God in the OT insane, I'm just effing sick and tired of Christians that say "OMG YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR THAT!!!" or "KILL DEM INFIDELS!!" or non-Christians that attack Christians "OMG YOU'RE LIKE ISLAM!" based solely on the OT.

 

[Ikerous]

I don't find the God in the OT insane, I'm just effing sick and tired of Christians that say "OMG YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR THAT!!!" or "KILL DEM INFIDELS!!" or non-Christians that attack Christians "OMG YOU'RE LIKE ISLAM!" based solely on the OT.

I didn't mean insane I was just using it as a lack of a better word
(I assumed you found the morality of the OT scarey, since you said itd be scarey if Christians followed it)
And it's just that i'm tired of Christians who like to pretend the old testament didn't happen, when it's just as important now as the NT
(eg the more you know about God, the better relationship you can have with him, etc)
Or people that pretend the OT isn't important because they don't think Jesus would ever do those things
(When he clearly did)
(Do i use parenthesis too much?)

 

[MiccyNarc]

(I assumed you found the morality of the OT scarey, since you said itd be scarey if Christians followed it)

Admit it: A person who kills animals on a weekly basis as a part of a religious ritual would be scary.
Oh yeah, and Christians who stone disobedient children, etc.

And it's just that i'm tired of Christians who like to pretend the old testament didn't happen, when it's just as important now as the NT

While I don't consider it "as important", I do believe it's important, as you said, to understand God and know Him better.
(By the way, it's great having this discussion off of a Christian-oriented website)

 

[Ikerous]

Admit it: A person who kills animals on a weekly basis as a part of a religious ritual would be scary.

Haha, completely. It's just that all of the OT laws and ideas were put there by Jesus himself and a lot of Christians like to pretend he'd never condone those things

 

[MiccyNarc]

Haha, completely. It's just that all of the OT laws and ideas were put there by Jesus himself and a lot of Christians like to pretend he'd never condone those things

That is very true.
What really irritates me about these people is that they write off anything they are uncomfortable with but cling to anything they can accept. (For example: keeping the sabbath day "holy"). This is where the whole argument "Christians choose what they do or do not want to obey" comes from.

 

[Ikerous]

That is very true.
What really irritates me about these people is that they write off anything they are uncomfortable with but cling to anything they can accept. (For example: keeping the sabbath day "holy"). This is where the whole argument "Christians choose what they do or do not want to obey" comes from.

<3 Then we agree completely
(hahaha, i think thats the best a religious discussion on these forums have ever gone)

 

[spookymooky]

<3 Then we agree completely
(hahaha, i think thats the best a religious discussion on these forums have ever gone)

Too bad the threads about Islam

/party killer

 

[MiccyNarc]

<3 Then we agree completely
(hahaha, i think thats the best a religious discussion on these forums have ever gone)

You speak truth.

Too bad the threads about Islam

/party killer

Shhhh.... *kills spooky and dumps body in ditch*

:angel:

 

[Raeven0]

I've always wanted a Quran, but I can't read Arabic.

This is a problem because every word of a religious text is important, and even the highest-calibre translation could fail to convey a meaning.

[edit: I have ordered a copy, but it seems they do not have enough to fill the demand. Maybe I'll get one in a few months.]

 

[RakuraiTenjin]

I'm against the fundamentalist Middle Eastern Culture. It's a bad culture.

Not every area/person in the Middle East participates in it, either. Islam also just happens to be the religion there where it is.

For instance, Western Muslims say that live in my hometown, some friends of mine- they're nothing like the crazy ass weirdos who riot and kill without hesitation. Islam is just used as their tool.

A good term is Islamist. It helps differentiate between good Muslims and crazies. I have nothing against Muslims, but I will fight the culture of death and warped thinking that Islamists promote.

edit: If you use Islamist you should probably explain it though, or use "Islamofascist" or something. Just make clear you mean the culture and crazy people, and that you are dead set against those abusing what once was actually the most scientific/advancing religion on Earth.

 

[spookymooky]

I'm against the fundamentalist Middle Eastern Culture. It's a bad culture.

Not every area/person in the Middle East participates in it, either. Islam also just happens to be the religion there where it is.

For instance, Western Muslims say that live in my hometown, some friends of mine- they're nothing like the crazy ass weirdos who riot and kill without hesitation. Islam is just used as their tool.

Perfect.

 

[CptStern]

EDIT: By the way, actions speak louder than words.

and yet people wonder why americans arent exactly well liked either

yet are americans to blame for their governments actions? ..to some extent yes but that's not why people hate americans ..it's ignorance that allows them to transfer hate of foreign policy to hate of anything american


I assume it's much the same for fundamentalist muslims. Not all advocate death and destruction ...some (much like hisidic jews, christian orthodox, amish, mennonite etc) actually believe in a strict adherance to their religion ..it doesnt mean they're dangerous or barbaric or what have you ..it just means they're different ..the point being that there are many shades of grey to religious groups The religion of Islam is no different ...much like Christian fundamentalists there are both radical and moderate sects/factions Some use violence to achieve their ends (abortion clinic bombings, mass suicide etc) Others prefer to isolate themselves within their communities and are no danger to anyone ...the rhetoric is the same but the methodology is not

 

[NotATool]

You're too late.
(caption on last one: Raise your hand if you can't take a joke)
EDIT: By the way, actions speak louder than words.

Okay, there are about a total of 20 people in those pictures.
Enough to prove all muslims are violent exremists right?
No: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

 

[15357]

I hate all organized religion so yes.

(except buddhists, since they don't try to convert you)

 

[MiccyNarc]

Okay, there are about a total of 20 people in those pictures.
Enough to prove all muslims are violent exremists right?
No: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization

Wow you're an idiot. Pay attention to news much?

Stern, the difference is that you'll find nothing in the New Testament condoning mass suicides and abortion clinic bombing.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Some of that population felt that the religion itself harbored bad notions towards non-Muslims.

I feel that all religions (to an extent) harbour fundamental bad notions against non-members. So yes.

This doesn't mean they are inherently bad, but it certainly looks as if Islam is at an 'earlier' stage than Christianity. In a sense, Islam (at least in the form it is now) seems a relic, not quite fitting in with the present day.