Watch this...

[silent]

I was browsing msnbc when I came upon this article: http://www.msnbc.com/news/983565.asp?0dm=C11QT. Now if someone is gonna sue 200+ million over a game like GTA3, then wow, every game that includes guns needs to watch out. Yeah, in GTA3 you can shoot at passing cars, but in HL you can shoot as passing aliens (imagine kids shooting at illegal aliens lol). Anyways, just something to watch. They probably won't win the suit, but company's like Valve need to know that crazy money-greedy maniacs will sue them over anything. Including killing aliens with realistic weapons.

-Yes, this is HL2 related now that you ask.-

 

[ferd]

yes

 

[Tarkus]

i think this is old news, but i might be mistaken...

 

[Diablo2k]

Its not the gamedevelopers fault those kids bought the game, It has 18+ rating ... So they will never win this case, tho you ll never know with the american law

 

[hawk724]

yea its the game makers fault....you can't blame it on the stupid kids, or their horrible parrents who let them play a game they obviously shouldn't be playing...yea its the game makers fault

 

[KagePrototype]

This most likely won't stick in court. It clearly has an age restriction on the box, on the adverts, everywhere. The developers cannot be blamed for someone being idiotic enough to kill someone just because they did it in a game.

 

[theGreenBunny]

Maybe another warning on the box: Don't play this if you're a psycho!

 

[mrchimp]

GTA3's boreing Mafia's better, I think this is bullshit, GTA3 has nothing to do with it.

 

[D33]

Fact is, and I stress FACT is that a game cannot make a person do anything. If this game MADE people go out and do this act then hundreds of thousands of gamers would be doing it.

However this is not the case, two people did it.

It is their actions that caused these events.

 

[Mountain Man]

Wonder where the parents were during all this.

 

[alco]

Let them sue. Once someone actually wins one of these cases, it'll be an issue.

 

[ultraq]

Yeah you don't just go out and shoot ppl just because you did it in a game and it was cool so you wanted to see how it feels in real life :/
you only do that if you've got serious problems .. i mean, it doesn't start with the game .. there are probably alot of things in thier lives that let them do it. the game just made them more eager for it.
Plus It's not like the game developer made this game to inspire people to kill :/ I remember when we were kids we used some borken pieces of wood and pretended they are guns and we would hide behind trees and virtualy shoot at each other (you know ...) so what!

plus .. if you want 208934 bazillion dollars because you lost someone .. you probaly care about the money more than you care about the lost person. IMO

 

[mrchimp]

Originally posted by Mountain Man
Wonder where the parents were during all this.

Is it even worth asking?

 

[D33]

I wrote a paper on games affecting people. I really should create a personal website with all my ramblings on ;(

 

[Direwolf]

You mean a blog?

 

[thehunter1320]

BLOGS R0X0X0R!!!!!!!

On a serious note, this suit is truly gay... why sue sony and wal mart? if u sue sony, sue microsoft since GTA is on the PC as well :dozey:

 

[D33]

a blog would be part of it but i'd have different sections for my personal thoughts, papers, etc.

 

[alehm]

Me and my friend used to act out violent video games. But I decided to stop after he never respawned.

 

[LoneDeranger]

You could not shoot people that were inside cars in GTA III.


'nuff said

 

[Murray_H]

Originally posted by LoneDeranger
You could not shoot people that were inside cars in GTA III.


'nuff said

/me puts on his lawyer suit

But by not allowing the player to shoot people in their cars, isn't the game increasing the curiosity of player as to what happens when you shoot someone in their car? The player will have to find another way to see what happens, and unfortunately in this case it was by shooting a real person in a car.

/me holds up a picture of Chewbacca.........

 

[Maskirovka]

like one of the people in the article says:

“There is no credible evidence that violent games lead to violent behavior,” he said. “While video games may provide a simple excuse for the teenagers involved in this incident, responsibility for violent acts belongs to those who commit them.”

it also says:

The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in the case last year that it was “simply to far a leap from shooting characters on a video screen to shooting people in a classroom.”

now that's 'nuff said

 

[AU StangGT]

as long as there is a warning on the box (which in Rock*'s case there was) it is literally impossible for anyone to win under any circumstances.

Someone could steal a tank and drive down their street killing 100s of people and then get out and say "GTAIII is the sole reason I did that" and there won't be shit that Rock* has to worry about. It's already been established in court. These parents and victim's families are only gonna end up having to shell out a fortune for lawyers fees.

I wrote a report also in my Business Law class at Auburn University and had the prof (who is the head of the department) verified all of this so believe dat PLAYA!!

 

[Murray_H]

Just incase anyone didn't get it, i wasn't being serious, i don't think the people who have brought the suit against Rockstar etc. have a leg to stand on.

 

[LoneDeranger]

Originally posted by Murray_H
Just incase anyone didn't get it, i wasn't being serious, i don't think the people who have brought the suit against Rockstar etc. have a leg to stand on.

You'd be surprised. The jury might feel sorry for whoever's son/daughter/mother/father got AWPed.

 

[Chris D]

It's like "Guns don't kill people, people kill people"

Video games don't make people kill people, people make people kill people.

people's. everywhere. in my head and ****it

/me shoots teh intarweb

 

[Hudson]

D33, you should totally put up a page with tons of ramblings about how the whole "video games are evil, they make kids kill people!" topic. It'd be great man.

O yeah chris, the world is now sueing you for shooting the intarweb. They say it was inspired by Super Mario 3.

 

[Dougy]

Originally posted by mrchimp
GTA3's boreing Mafia's better, I think this is bullshit, GTA3 has nothing to do with it.

i have both and i can quite confidently say that GTA3 is better than mafia.

You cant get chased in mafia cos the police sirens are f****** annoying and never stop.......

its like an alarm clock is chasing you through the streets.

 

[Xtasy0]

Originally posted by LoneDeranger
You'd be surprised. The jury might feel sorry for whoever's son/daughter/mother/father got AWPed.

the jurys job is to use facts to come to a conclusion about the defendants guilt, they really aren't allowed to let emotions enter into it, they simply go on FACTS.

 

[Maskirovka]

Originally posted by Xtasy0
the jurys job is to use facts to come to a conclusion about the defendants guilt, they really aren't allowed to let emotions enter into it, they simply go on FACTS.

not in a civil trial with punitive damages...you're talking about a criminal trial.

 

[Stigmata]

On a side note, where the hell did the kids get a rifle and ammo?

 

[AudioRage]

locked closet in their house.

So why isn't the victim's families suing the parents for not putting the damn .22 in a safe?

Also, If a judge rules that the game cannot be responsible then there is no need for a jury.

 

[Maskirovka]

any support of this suit is basically saying that people aren't responsible for their own actions, which is incredibly wrong. that's why the insanity plea exists...

by the logic of this suit, the parents in this case have done nothing wrong either...since they're not responsible for their actions of negligence in not teaching their kids that shooting at people is wrong.

 

[Mountain Man]

Originally posted by mrchimp
Is it even worth asking [where the parents were]?

It is absolutely critical that this question be asked. Problem is, the right people aren't asking the question.

 

[Typhon]

Originally posted by SlipperyNipple
Only in America.... what the hell is wrong with people over there?

the shooting or the lawsuit?

 

[alco]

Originally posted by Xtasy0
the jurys job is to use facts to come to a conclusion about the defendants guilt, they really aren't allowed to let emotions enter into it, they simply go on FACTS.

Yes, but you can't guarantee that being the case. They're not robots. Sometimes, you can't stop emotion from affecting a decision.

 

[alco]

Originally posted by Typhon
the shooting or the lawsuit?

He was refering to the lawsuit. But both are a bigger problem in America than in any other country.

 

[AnRowan]

This is so ridiculous. While I sympathize for the victimsa nd their families I also think of the waste in money due to lawyer's fees and such. It's mind boggling that they put a price on their loved ones lives. $246,000,000 is obviously alot of money but still it doesn't seem right putting a price on their lives. That's like saying someone could pay their families 246 million to kill them. To sum it up cuz i'm nearly exhausted from work and school: scapegoat.

 

[Flyingdebris]

yeah so suddenly violence is perverting our youth into bloodthirsty killers

Hmm, so did Vlad the Impaler play Vice City?

Perhaps Gengis Khan played too much Diablo 2?

Or maybe Jack the Ripper played too much Soldier of Fortune 2?

I think all the anti game politians and soccer moms should realize that stupidity and violence are traits as old as humanity and not even almighty video games have the power to significantly change those 2 traits in a person

 

[alco]

Originally posted by AnRowan
That's like saying someone could pay their families 246 million to kill them.

Pay me $246 Million and I'll kill the president.

 

[AnRowan]

Originally posted by alco
Pay me $246 Million and I'll kill the president.

:dozey: Secret Service enroute to your house as I type this.