watercooling

[zool]

I have a new watercooling system now so I thought I should get rid of the old stuff. Although, it's not really that old.. It's all in real good condition and with this kit you should be able to OC both cpu and gpu quite a bit... Really nice quality system that has done me lots of good.

Anyway, if anybody is interested pls e-mail or PM me.

Feel free to ask any questions.. Even if you don't want to buy my set.. I could always help out anyone who's thinking of getting into watercooling.

Some images..

EDIT: Here's an ad I put out -> www.byt.se.. It's in Swedish :/.

 

[SpuD]

How much?

 

[Dr. Freeman]

i know nothing about water cooling systems..

i was told by a friend that water cooling does not work as well as some pple believe it does.. so im kinda leaving it on reserved judgement since i never owned one of those and haven't seen one in action personally.


are they really worth it compared to regular cooling?

and inquiring minds want to know how much for that stuff?

 

[Tupac]

how does it work?

 

[Mac]

in my opinion water cooling is more for looks and for a more quiet system. granted you do get a bit better cooling, sometimes it doesnt matter how cool your chip is, it just won't overclock (overclocking is the only reason you'd need water cooling)

 

[TheRook]

Originally posted by Mac
in my opinion water cooling is more for looks and for a more quiet system. granted you do get a bit better cooling, sometimes it doesnt matter how cool your chip is, it just won't overclock (overclocking is the only reason you'd need water cooling)

or for stealthing your computer...

my friend is stealthing his so its silent and everything is hidden by little doors and things

therook

 

[zool]

Yes, watercooling is for overclocking and it beats air-based coolers by far. You'll get a relatively low temp and it wont go up much even when OC'ed, which means you'll get a more stable system.. Same thing when cpu is idle or in full load (my cpu temp differs like 2-3c from idle to full load temp).. it wont go much up in temp, certanly not as much as air-based heatsinks.. Also you'll probably be able to OC it a bit more then with a heatsink/fan.

If you have no source that blows out hot air in your case.. Case temp will go down dramatically. My Case temp(mobo temp) is basically the same as my room temp.

I had no experience with watercooling before I bought this system that I'm selling right now.. But I was pretty experienced when it came to computers though. You really don't need any experience though, just some common sense and the ability to read .. Everything else is self-learned.

For watercooled systems you are to use distilled water.. Which means if leakage would appear, it should not harm your system.. But I haven't had any leaks.. Innovatek has a very steady system with good hose clamps that you screw on the blocks, radiator, tank and pump... No risk for leaks.

Ok, so the retail price on this syetem is 249.90EUR + $47 for the gpu block. That makes it about $321. I thought I would take $210 for my stuff, fair? Too much? Feel free to give me your opinion on this.

 

[Mac]

hmm whats the USD conversion on that?

edit: 234$

 

[Mac]

im interested in buying water cooling, just to early for me right now though. i have the money but i have done little research, and i just dont feel comftorable buying anything yet.

one question though: does this kit fit inside your case?

 

[zool]

Originally posted by Mac
hmm whats the USD conversion on that?

edit: 234$

249.90 EUR Euro = 274.204 USD United States Dollars

1 EUR = 1.09726 USD 1 USD = 0.911364 EUR

 

[Mac]

wait i though you said 210.. where you getting 249.90= 274.20??
or you just using this as an example?

 

[zool]

Originally posted by Mac
im interested in buying water cooling, just to early for me right now though. i have the money but i have done little research, and i just dont feel comftorable buying anything yet.

one question though: does this kit fit inside your case?

Yes it does.. I used a Chieftec Dragon DX midi-tower case.

With a little simple modding (if needed), It'll fit in most cases. Well, it should fit in any midi-tower case. Desktop cases might not be as easy though :/.

 

[zool]

Originally posted by Mac
wait i though you said 210.. where you getting 249.90= 274.20??
or you just using this as an example?

Sorry, misunderstanding.. The price is 210 USD for my stuff.

I thought you meant 249.90EUR retail price.

The current price is $210 (USD).

 

[Dr. Freeman]

i have another question..


is it a must to buy a case that already has a water cooling system

or

can u install water cooling system on any case?

and if second option, how easy/hard is it to install this water cooling?

 

[nw909]

http://cache.byt.se/mmo/1696947_1_0_r3s_a.jpg

Watercooling or penis pump?

 

[ankalar]

Originally posted by zool
For watercooled systems you are to use distilled water.. Which means if leakage would appear, it should not harm your system.. But I haven't had any leaks..

No, you use distilled water because that way you don't wear away the metal and get build-up inside the tubes/blocks. If you were to have two different metals in your watercooling system, you would also need some sort of solution like Water Wetter. :afro:

 

[FictiousWill]

What average temperature does water cooled systems run at (in celsius)?

I have an amd athlon xp 2800+ at 2.08 ghz running at 50 degrees celsius. How much would watercooling help temperature wise?

Maintenance: do you have to do anything to it periodically? Is it easily transportable? (i.e. if you turn your computer on its side it won't all spill out)

How exactly does it work? Step by step: water is pumped by pumpy thing into tube A..... etc

thanks,
Will

 

[Dr. Freeman]

*bump*


im bumping this thread up because others as well as myself would like some answers about this water cooling systems stuff..


good questions Will

 

[zool]

Originally posted by ankalar
No, you use distilled water because that way you don't wear away the metal and get build-up inside the tubes/blocks. If you were to have two different metals in your watercooling system, you would also need some sort of solution like Water Wetter. :afro:

I know..

Distilled water doesn't lead electricity.. So it should not harm the system if leakage would appear. Besides, I didn't say that this _was_ the exact reason for using distilled water.

I use Innovaprotect and I haven't got any alga in my system.

 

[zool]

Originally posted by Dr. Freeman
i have another question..


is it a must to buy a case that already has a water cooling system

or

can u install water cooling system on any case?

and if second option, how easy/hard is it to install this water cooling?

No, as I've said before.. This water cooling system should fit in most midi-tower cases.. Some cases might need a little modding though, but in general.. This is some thing the average person with some interest and knowledge of computers should be able to pull off.

It was rather easy, at least in my Chieftec case.. I removed one of the hdd bays and broke the metal off that holds the bay... And thats' where I put the radiator. I didn't drill any holes, I got by just fine with some straps.. Hooked the system up that way.

In my new system I've drilled some holes and removed some stuff with dremel though. I guess it's really up to the person that installs the system, how much work you want to put down. You could just hook it up with straps and place the stuff where ever theres room in your case.. If you don't mind that things are a bit "messy" and loose in there.

 

[zool]

Originally posted by FictiousWill
What average temperature does water cooled systems run at (in celsius)?

It all depends on how you hook it up(if your using y-connectors etc) and what room temperature you have. The water temp will not go below room temp of course. But I would say 30-40-something Celsius.. Depending on how much you over clock your system and if your using other blocks for gpu etc.

Originally posted by FictiousWill
I have an amd athlon xp 2800+ at 2.08 ghz running at 50 degrees celsius. How much would watercooling help temperature wise?

Probably allot... 50C is pretty high imho, but I wont give you any specific temps since I don't really know them for a fact. But you'll get lower temperatures, that's for sure.

Originally posted by FictiousWill
Maintenance: do you have to do anything to it periodically? Is it easily transportable? (i.e. if you turn your computer on its side it won't all spill out)

The system is all perfectly sealed. Innovatek makes high quality W/C systems and I can almost guarantee you your system wont leak if you hook it up properly. As for the portability question... It all depends on how you install the system, if you drill some holes and screw it together it's just as portable as any other computer.. except it might be a bit heavier . How many ppl do you see with water cooling at LAN gatherings? Allot! You really think they would install that stuff in their puters if it wasn't portable?

Originally posted by FictiousWill
How exactly does it work? Step by step: water is pumped by pumpy thing into tube A..... etc

Ok, so this is how my system works.. The tank is connected directly to the pump which pumps the water from the tank to the radiator.. Water goes through the radiator which cools down the water and in to my cpu block which cools my cpu(duh ) and then it goes from the cpu block to the chipset-block, from the chipset-block to my gpu-block and then it goes back into the tank... Now this is where I could have connected my system better.. Since the water travels from block to block, the "warm" water from the cpu block doesn't do as good of a job cooling my chipset and gpu as if I would have used 2 y-connectors. Then the water would have traveled from the pump directly in to each block simultaneously... giving each component better cooling (hope you guys understood this, I suck at explaining things ).

I hope this answers all of your questions, if not plz tell me what your unclear about.

Thanks.

 

[Kongo]

Bah, distilled water.. Use tap water with some booze in it, that's what I do:cheese:

 

[FictiousWill]

Thanks for the helpful explanation. I may look into using watercooling in a while. I must admit the prospect of a silent 40 degree computer is very appealing.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

installing water cooling systems sounds... a bit complicated.. not alot, but enough for me to want to buy a case that already has one in it..

though i suppose its probably hard to find cases so ur exact preferences and still have water cooling in it..

hmm... my AMD cpu heats up fast.. water cooling for an AMD in my opinion is almost a must..

anyway, thanks for the info, very informative!

:thumbs:

 

[zool]

Originally posted by Dr. Freeman
installing water cooling systems sounds... a bit complicated.. not alot, but enough for me to want to buy a case that already has one in it..

though i suppose its probably hard to find cases so ur exact preferences and still have water cooling in it..

hmm... my AMD cpu heats up fast.. water cooling for an AMD in my opinion is almost a must..

anyway, thanks for the info, very informative!

:thumbs:

Ok, but I would advise against it.. I sort of get the impression that your thinking of Koolance and their systems are pretty crappy imho. Believe me, I've had some bad experience with Koolance, you don't want to go there.

They make low quality pumps that _will_ break eventually (that's probably why they always use dual pumps in their systems), the pumps are very weak so you'll get a really bad water flow, not to speak of the small tubes they use. Their water blocks are not impressive at all but I guess they do the job (more or less).. The plastic tank can very easily break. The over all performance of a Koolance system really isn't that much better then the top model heatsinks/fans that are available today... And it's louder then all other quality W/C systems.

I think most ppl that recommend Koolance haven't had any personal experience with it, just read some reviews and then think they know every thing about it.. Or someone who owns it and hasn't really compared it to a "good" hq W/C system.

I just can not see why someone would settle for Koolance just because they are too lazy to even try to install a better and more high quality system for probably less money.

Sorry, don't mean to judge anyone or clank down on Koolance owners.. This is just my opinion and I stand by it.

 

[ankalar]

Hint: If you don't know anything about water cooling, don't buy a damn water cooling setup.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Originally posted by zool
Ok, but I would advise against it.. I sort of get the impression that your thinking of Koolance and their systems are pretty crappy imho.

hmm.. i never even heard of "Koolance" systems..

here are links to some water cooling systems i was given.. are any of these products any good?


Frozen CPU

Thermaltake

Antec

Originally posted by ankalar
Hint: If you don't know anything about water cooling, don't buy a damn water cooling setup.

what if ur comp heats up FAST and u need it? guess its time to learn eh? or take it to a comp store and have it installed by the guys that know how to.. anyway, i'll be doing one or the other, most likely learning

 

[ankalar]

You remind me a lot of people who think they need 6 fans in their computer because they think it's too hot.
You could save 180 dollars and get a good HSF. I'd recommend a Vantec Aeroflow, Thermalright SLK-800 or SLK-900 with a Thermaltake Smartfan 2.

 

[Dr. Freeman]

Originally posted by ankalar
You remind me a lot of people who think they need 6 fans in their computer because they think it's too hot.
You could save 180 dollars and get a good HSF. I'd recommend a Vantec Aeroflow, Thermalright SLK-800 or SLK-900 with a Thermaltake Smartfan 2.

well, this computer im on is 5 years old now.. and granted theres alot newer stuff out and all that, but i don't mind spending an extra $10-$15 bucks when im going to spend pretty much between $1500-$2000, $10 bucks won't kill me.

as for the products ur talking about, i don't know anything about them, but will look into them.. needless to say, im don't upgrade every year and don't plan on for a while after this one.. so i want the absolute best i can afford at that time.

 

[ankalar]

Go onto ICQ. I'll talk to you there.