"We begin bombing in five minutes"

[seinfeldrules]

Stern it was a friggin joke. Jesus he didnt think he was on camera. You really need to take a nice sip of reality.

 

[Foxtrot]

Stern it was a friggin joke. Jesus he didnt think he was on camera. You really need to take a nice sip of reality.

He can only sip reality if it is biased and liberal...which isn't reality at all but to him it is.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

maybe we'll have something to actually discuss when the game gets released.

actually, what i think you want is people "discussing" less.. or at least a more focused discussion, which the game release would probably bring about. the problem with the OT forum is that you get a bunch of FPS players coming here and seeing that they can give free reign to all of their sophomoric website-knowledge and inexperience. it's funny if you're in the right frame of mind, but it can be tiresome if you're not.

 

[Murray_H]

Stern it was a friggin joke. Jesus he didnt think he was on camera. You really need to take a nice sip of reality.

I hate black people

SHIT!!111 Sorry, didn't realise you were reading this!

If you are the president, the person who is seen to make all decisions (but actually doesn't), don't you think you have some responsibility to keep a seriousness about a situation which could end the world? Sure, he didn't think the mic was on, but it's not worth even chancing it.

I think environmental effects could lead to a nuclear war -> end of the world, water shortage and energy crises (sp) will be a likely source of war in the near future (wars which will probably escalate into something much bigger more quickly).

 

[adulus]

This is the sorta thing i saw in an english booklet, something about out of context. Many things sounds dirty or wrong or stupid out of context.

 

[seinfeldrules]

If you are the president, the person who is seen to make all decisions (but actually doesn't), don't you think you have some responsibility to keep a seriousness about a situation which could end the world? Sure, he didn't think the mic was on, but it's not worth even chancing it.

Wait, so because he is the President he can no longer joke and act like a human being? Wow, I didnt think we voted aliens into the White House. The context in which he said it was obviously a joke. "Congress has just outlawed Russia. The nukes will be falling in five minutes". Then again, since you are obvioulsy a supporter of Mr. Pessimism (Kerry), this optimism and joking must come as a shock to you.

 

[Korgoth]

Aliens in the white house, whoopy doo, this thread really is about ronald reagan isn't it. After all, remember his great alien speech... Boy that was classic. Oh wait, aliens in the white house? GWB sure doesn't look human to me Dick Cheney is well... Satan And lmfao at the pessimism kerry thing, did you pull that straight from the bush commercial or what?
And timmy don't chage your avatar on my account, i'll leave anyway

 

[Eejit]

Wait, so because he is the President he can no longer joke and act like a human being? Wow, I didnt think we voted aliens into the White House. The context in which he said it was obviously a joke. "Congress has just outlawed Russia. The nukes will be falling in five minutes". Then again, since you are obvioulsy a supporter of Mr. Pessimism (Kerry), this optimism and joking must come as a shock to you.

I think Reagan & Pals should have been a bit more concerned that the joke might lose something during translation to Russian.
And sure he can act & joke like a human being, but that was definitely the wrong time, place and subject, especially given the international situation.

 

[Farrowlesparrow]

I've been here a little over a month and even I noticed that every single topic that even remotely talks about politics gets bogged down in little nitpicking by page 2. So much so that no one seems to even read anybody elses post; they just latch on to one statement and spend the next 5 pages arguing the same point over and over

Its sad that that is true...Its also a downer that i feel I've conribute to that as well.

It just gets annoying nowadays lookinga t most of the stuff here, even my own threads just bore me. I wont wallow in the past, but things really were better before.

 

[seinfeldrules]

I think Reagan & Pals should have been a bit more concerned that the joke might lose something during translation to Russian.
And sure he can act & joke like a human being, but that was definitely the wrong time, place and subject, especially given the international situation.

Well does it really matter? It seems he did have the right approach considering the outcome 8 months after he left office, but then again nobody recalls that right?

at the pessimism kerry thing, did you pull that straight from the bush commercial or what?

Nah, I read enough news papers and watch enough of his 30 second news clips to make that judgement for myself.

 

[CptStern]

Well does it really matter? It seems he did have the right approach considering the outcome 8 months after he left office, but then again nobody recalls that right?

he once refered to the Contra Rebels as the "moral equivelant of the [american] founding fathers"

 

[Foxtrot]

he once refered to the Contra Rebels as the "moral equivelant of the [american] founding fathers"

Link please.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

Link please.

just google it.. it's a well-known quote. i believe he said the same about the mujaheddin in afghanistan (the proto-taliban). though i'm not sure what this has to do with this thread.. in fact, wth is this thread about anyway?

edit: in many ways, reagan was right. both can be viewed as freedom-fighters, just like pretty much any group of rebels (they can also be viewed as terrorists.. just depends on your POV). the american rebels ('founding fathers') certainly weren't above terrorism and "war crime" in the fight against the british.

 

[Foxtrot]

just google it.. it's a well-known quote. i believe he said the same about the mujahadin in afghanistan (the proto-taliban). though i'm not sure what this has to do with this thread.. in fact, wth is this thread about anyway?

edit: in many ways, reagan was right. both can be viewed as freedom-fighters, just like pretty much any group of rebels (they can also be viewed as terrorists.. just depends on your POV). the american rebels ('founding fathers') certainly weren't above terrorism and "war crime" in the fight against the british.

That is true, but the founding fathers were more like diplomats than warriors, for the most part.

 

[Xenome]

Who cares, he's not president anymore, in fact he has passed away. Let him rip ( not that talking about him has any affect on his resting in peace, but still )

 

[Eejit]

Well does it really matter? It seems he did have the right approach considering the outcome 8 months after he left office, but then again nobody recalls that right?

I remember that, I just don't think it had anything to do with his approach, but Gorbachev was a much, much more important factor in ending the Cold War than Reagan was.
Do you actually think he could have brought it about with Andropov or Chernenko in power? If it was one of them his attitudes would probably have prolonged the conflict, with his 'evil empire' speeches etc.

 

[Lil' Timmy]

I remember that, I just don't think it had anything to do with his approach, but Gorbachev was a much, much more important factor in ending the Cold War than Reagan was.
Do you actually think he could have brought it about with Andropov or Chernenko in power? If it was one of them his attitudes would probably have prolonged the conflict, with his 'evil empire' speeches etc.

well, one could argue that the financial expenditure poured into the afghan conflict assisted the collapse of the soviet union. our assistance to the mujaheddin certainly had somehting to do with their ultimate victory.. of course, it kinda came back to bite us in the ass.. but that's a different topic (or is it??)

but you're right about gorbachev being the main diplomatic factor in ending the cold war.

That is true, but the founding fathers were more like diplomats than warriors, for the most part.

well, any group of rebels will have soldiers and able 'diplomats' (just look at the southern successionists in the US civil war). whether they become "founding fathers" or not depends upon the success of the rebellion. had the british and loyalist americans won, washington would be regarded something like jefferson davis.

 

[Dalamari]

Nuclear war not involving me=hilarious

 

[ductonius]

Nuclear war not involving me=hilarious

Nuclear War is hilarious whether it involves me or not!

(look at the image)