What does Next gen mean to you?

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games like crysis are little more than a shiney new coat of paint over the same tried and true gameplay ..it's an oversimplification but it's appropriate because in terms of gameplay the leap is hardly next gen ..but the visuals ..wow ..but is that truely next gen gaming? or is it just next gen graphics

personally I think we wont see the true "next gen" of gaming till gaming changes in some fundamentally drastic way ...case in point, this little story about Eve Online iillustrates my point:


kotaku said:
Something interesting is happening in Eve Online, the massive space MMORPG: the largest alliances in the game, Band of Brothers and Ascendant Frontier, have declared war on each other, sucking 9,000 players into the game's first truly massive PvP conflict. Huge battles are taking place for entire systems. And all in a game I once declared the world's prettiest spreadsheet.
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next gen gaming could be gaming on a massive scale; where thousands of players working as a collective (or alone) affect the outcome of the world they inhabit




teh funny:

Kotaku said:
Most interestingly, Ascendant Frontier pulled out the big guns in their war against Band of Brothers. In fact, they pulled out the biggest gun, the Doomsday Weapon, which looks like a sort of solar-system sized nuke. But even more hilarious is that apparently, Ascendant Frontier missed, mostly killing a good chunk of their own guys.
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http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/eve-on...ctic-conflict-starts-in-eve-online-204528.php
 
Next Gen means nothing to me. Its little more than a over-used marketing term that has lost all original meaning.
 
i think it would be awesome to someday have a first person shooter multiplayer for hundreds of players fighting in a sort of huge war/battle scene.
 
yes but I'm not asking what the marketing terms means ..I asking what's the next evolutionary step for gaming ..I just used the term "next gen"
 
Next Gen to me means... <ponders> General Games Chat.
 
CptStern said:
EVE stuff
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That sounds awesome. A game that so many players enjoy and have a life in, suddenly has a war to fight in. I'd die of awesome-experienceness if I'd play that game.
 
I know I'm a Nintendo fanboy, but I think getting away from the regular controller is a good idea. New input, new ways to play the game, new immersion. I don't care if graphics-wise a game goes backwards (DEFCON) to achieve a game that is more fun that most other offerings.

Also, wrong forum.
 
counter-strike would reach whole new levels with 300+ players and ginormous maps. it would be completely different.
 
Ugh, MMOs. Not my thing. I don't believe that masive PvP battles are next-gen.

Next-gen to me means some sort of truly intelligent/sentient AI. That, paired with the interactions and their consequences in the game world make a rather next-gen statement in my book. If Fable 2 can meet all of the hype Peter M. has recently put behind it, then that will be one of the first of the truly next-gen titles. I don't see games like Gears of War or Resistance: FoM being all that next-gen personally, pretty as they are.

That said, I think Assasin's Creed is moving in the right direction in terms of much more realistic interactions with the much more realistic crowds in the game. That adds to the atmosphere of the title and, hence, to the immersion in the game.

So, to sum up: AI, interactivity, consequences. These things will make the next-gen stand out from the previous gen.
 
tehsolace said:
counter-strike would reach whole new levels with 300+ players and ginormous maps. it would be completely different.
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Yeah and gay. Even longer waiting times, shorter lifespans, lower frames per second, more noobs that have no idea where to go, more lag.. etc etc.
 
The Brick said:
Yeah and gay. Even longer waiting times, shorter lifespans, lower frames per second, more noobs that have no idea where to go, more lag.. etc etc.
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well i ment someday. in the future. when computers can handle it. and internet connections.
 
It wouldn't be CS, nub.

Anyway, that EVE thing sounds freaking kickass.
 
Next-gen, to me, means games that evolve the concept of the word "game" to encompass more than just "bad guys, guns, a storyline, and pretty graphics." More diverse input (Nintendo Wii), more complex and reactive AI (Assassin's Creed), and games that react to you in ways larger than NPC reactions and level unlocks (Oblivion, but only as a sort of half-inclusion).

Next-gen as a marketing term is "current-gen, but on HD televisions."
 
CptStern said:
games like crysis are little more than a shiney new coat of paint over the same tried and true gameplay ..it's an oversimplification but it's appropriate because in terms of gameplay the leap is hardly next gen ..but the visuals ..wow ..but is that truely next gen gaming? or is it just next gen graphics
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Crysis has got some pretty fancy physics. Makes for quite an interactive environment and interesting gameplay, more-so than HL2's.
 
I still want a game like BF2 but the level is world sized, and never 'shuts down'. This way if you want a chopper, your team has to take over the airport and if you want a jeep you have to take over the town that holds the vehicle plant, better weapons require you to over take the weapons plant, etc.

Maybe it isn't possible, but I think it sounds fun.
 
Ok, since we arnt about the term next gen...

I think the only thing I might actually consider the next generation of gaming is a virtual reality type system. Im thinking we have a big room (gymnasium sided or bigger) with simple boxes and buildings , you put on a suit and a headset that provides the graphics, and you then play out the game using your mind and body to do things. Like, if you want to take cover, you run up to a box (which would look like sandbags or something in VR) and to shoot you hold up your plastic gun (which looks like a MG42 or something in VR) and pull the trigger. Multiplayer could be freaking awesome.
 
Or you could do paintball. Or even freaking laser quest.
 
Next Gen makes me think that consoles are starting to catch up with the Pcs current gen

But really when you can have a game of like Gta online so its a real living city with millions of real people that would be next gen
 
Next Gen for me is a vast improvement in artificial intelligence. This next-gen game will have its nps's adapt and learn from their enviroment. The kind of AI where the developers even get suprised as to what their game can do.

oh and pretty pictures
 
not the same. You cant see people's skulls bust open from a .50 cal rifle bullet in paintball can you?

Plus it would be for more than shooters, you could go in and start hacking a troll thats 5 times the size of you. Can you do that in paintball?

Plus I am banned from the laser quests in my area for punching a guy in the face when he grabbed my gun :angel:
 
Oh i love EvE, however i was lucky to have a friend that stopped me from buying it after the trail. If he wouldnt stop me then i would be hocked on D2 and Eve at the same time= suicide.

Eve can be considered Next Gen because of what you just explained, but also because of the feel of emptyness and limitless open space. However, the game exists right now, so how come its not Modern-gen?

Oh and i would consider Portal next gen, because its an old type of gameplay tooken into a new generation with new stuff and elements that adds to it.
 
Most games nowdays suck. They have all those useless bells and whistles but once they wear off (which is very quick), the game is useless since it has 0 gameplay. I don't care if Crysis has very realistic graphics, HDR MDR LPDR AIDS or whatever, if the gameplay sucks and is very repetitive, I won't play it for more than half an hour.

And yes hl2 too.
 
ZeeM said:
Most games nowdays suck. They have all those useless bells and whistles but once they wear off (which is very quick), the game is useless since it has 0 gameplay. I don't care if Crysis has very realistic graphics, HDR MDR LPDR AIDS or whatever, if the gameplay sucks and is very repetitive, I won't play it for more than half an hour.

And yes hl2 too.
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u best get ye ol Quake & HL back out then
 
Next gen for me is simply a big advancement or change for whatever you are talking about. It's not something that matters though. Some might say Crysis looks to have 'next gen' graphics but that's just a sub category. I wouldn't say Crysis is a 'next-gen' game.
 
I think Crysis has some awsome looking GFX, better than any ive seen ever before. But i don't think its next gen. We wont see that sort of gfx for a good few yrs yet.
 
I think next-gen is a worthless term now. There's no real major jumps being taken, just a slow progression of graphics, AI, physics, input-methods. So to me nothing is really next-gen, or everything is.
 
I think the term "Next-Gen" is nothing more than a marketing strategy. Next-Gen really means "upgrade", but the marketing people want to call it something that will get into the minds of the public. So they settled for Next-Gen.
 
to me means, technology, graphics, speed, original story for games...etc
 
A wise man once said "do i really need to wait for the next generation of gamers before i can play next-gen games??????"
 
according to Ubisoft next gen apparently means that I can't play Splintercell double agent, because the retards have descided to not support any GPUs below SM 3.0

I can play HL2(high settings with HDR), Doom3(mostly high), farcry(mostly high), Oblivion(medium...no hdr though) and I can play SC:CT(high) but apparently not SC: DA.

SC: DA looks good, but NOT that good...it really doesn't matter that much if the HDR wouldn't work...SC:CT looked damn good running on my machine IMO and I'd be contend if SC: DA would simply be on par with that...but apparently I won't even have that option...either buy new graphics card(+plus mobo etc etc.) or don't buy SC: DA....guess my choice.

this is one of the reasons I love Valve, they realise that not everyone is able to upgrade their hardware every month(or even year) and they still make sure that their games looks superb on either end of the hardware spectrum.

thumbs up for Valve and big FU to Ubisoft.
 
I'm still waiting for it to become "current gen". Stupid Sony need to pull their fingers out of their asses and tell us the next gen has begun already so we can just get past it :P
 
next-gen started with Far Cry / Doom 3 / Half-Life 2, and on the console side of things, Xbox360 *shudder* (sorry, I didn't think the release of the 360 was a very strong one).

That's just what I think though.
 
For me it's games that couldn't or didn't exist in the previous generation.
 
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