What religion do you believe in

[DEATH eVADER]

damnit guys.. it's "their" not "there".. at least 2 of you have done that already.. *cough*.. rupert.. *cough.. evader.. *cough*

it's very annoying, stop thx. (although i do appreciate the opportunity to lord my grammar nazism over you children).

I swear I'm dyslexic. I think I'm typing "Their", but I'm typing "There". It happens all the time, unless I proof-read my work. And besides, its late and I can't concentrate

 

[Lil' Timmy]

I swear I'm dyslexic. I think I'm typing "Their", but I'm typing "There". It happens all the time, unless I proof-read my work. And besides, its late and I can't concentrate

their their now, it's alright, just try not to make the same mistake again.
:cheers:

 

[Moto]

My family (Mom, Dad, Brother) is non-practicing Catholic. My grandparents go to church, but we don't. But my family is from Ireland, so yeah...we're Catholic.

 

[Direwolf]

How? Of course love exists. It's an experience that everyone but anti-socials have, it's accompanied by all sorts of predictable psyiological changes, has obvious biolgical purposes, and it can be studied like any other psycology subject. In fact, they recently discovered that love really DOES make you stupid: it disables the parts of you brain that handle things like judgements of trustworthiness and critical assetment. And it has similar affects to some drugs.

I imagine we'll find similar effects upon the heavily faithful too.
Myself I support taking the teachings of the religions of the world at face value. Look at what they're based on and what they say (holy texts etc.), not just how the various religous institutions interpret them. I'm always surprised how much in common most religions have at their core.

 

[Apos]

Myself I support taking the teachings of the religions of the world at face value.

Personally, I don't really care that much what people believe or how they choose to interpret this or that holy text. What matters is what they do and how they treat others. If beliefs make them do bad things, well, I can't easily change the beliefs, or really know how the beliefs play into what they did, but I can still object to the action.

 

[CptStern]

Personally, I don't really care that much what people believe or how they choose to interpret this or that holy text. What matters is what they do and how they treat others. If beliefs make them do bad things, well, I can't easily change the beliefs, or really know how the beliefs play into what they did, but I can still object to the action.

amen to that brother Apos

 

[qckbeam]

I'm not a religious person. There may or may not be something waiting for me after death. I'm not sure and I don't care to dwell on it. I'll focus my time and energy on this life; the only life I'm sure I will ever have.

I understand religion. It is a comfort to believe that after death we leave our bodies and join with our loved ones in paradise. I know, I used to believe just that myself, and hearing people proclaim that there is no afterlife upset me greatly, to the point of anger. It scared me to think that death was truly the final goodbye, and there would be no heavenly reunion. Over time I've come to understand that no one can prove the existence of god, and no one can disprove it. Therefore dwelling on that issue, and life after death is a waste of the lives we are living right now. We will all know the truth one day. For now, I intend to enjoy life, and make life enjoyable for others. There just isn't enough time in life to worry about death.

 

[Voodoo_Chile]

Homer- "Oh Great, Mormans"

Kang- "Actually, we are Quantum-Mesmitarians"

Correction its "Quantum Presbiterians".(Sorry but when you miss quote The Simpsons I'm gonna be gunning for u)

Now for On-topic:My cousin is and Apathic Satanist.She believes(Too strong a word perhaps) that as there is so much evil in this word and that supposedly this all powerful and Kind,Merciful God allows it to happen.At least with Satan you know where u stand.(She has a point)

[RANT]For my own beliefs I put down Agnostic though I'd like to give Buddhism a whirl once I'm 18(Might not go down well with the Stance Catholic Parents).For the moment though I believe there is a Being(God,Allah,Zeus,Dagda) and that he has quite a bit of power.I dont believe in him I just know his there.I hate the Catholic (And most organised religons) with a fervour equal to that of Religous fanatics.(If you ever hear stories of the Magdalin Laundries and the Christian Brothers schools you'll see why.All those stories are true btw)
Also listening to the gospels every so often you see the varius hints left in them and indocterination.Also most religons are terrorists.Believe in us or go to hell,or Limbo or Purgathory or be reincarnated as a leech and so on and so on.[/RANT]

Well I'm done.Attack them and point out my various flaws i aint changeing them.

 

[Pogrom]

Well, I went to 13 years of Catholic schooling. When I started university, I had some people I knew try to recruit me to some 'new' type of Christianity. Lots of singing, dancing, great big expensive halls.

"We give them a lot of our money, so they can do great things in the world!"
"Right... After they buy those $10 000 dollar robotic lights. And the Dolby 5.1 digital surround sound system for the preacher." And so on...

Nowadays, I hover in between Taoism and my own special brand.

I'm pretty tolerant of any religion, except for Creationists. Why people can't believe in God AND Evolution, I'll never know.

 

[Vigilante]

I think you should add Jewish in there..not as other. Many jewish ppl out there.

 

[poseyjmac]

I think you have a rather small-minded view of what an atheist is.

im sorry but i dont think so.. im basing my statements off what webster.com says as the definitions for these two belief systems. do you want to challenge the dictionary? here is the webster defintion for atheism.

Main Entry: athe·ism
Pronunciation: 'A-thE-"i-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a- + theos god
1 archaic : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity

so its not small minded at all actually. remember, we have dictionaries so we dont have to debate the meaning of words! an atheist is one who doesn't believe in the existence of a deity. any deviance from that, and you are not an atheist and you need to make up your own word! :cheers:

 

[Johan_Tayn]

you're catholic not christian. Christianity is an off-shoot of catholicism

you're backwards. Christ came before Cathlics came.

I'm hardcore Christian(Old Baptist) AND I'M HAPPY ABOUT IT. */growls*

However, I don't really want to get involved in *yet* another debate that goes no where, so let this be my last post. I don't worry that you'll burn in hell if I don't say something(predestination, buddy.. but I've said too much already.)

A(Latin word for "without") * Theos(Greek Word for God) = Atheos = Atheist.

 

[qckbeam]

Ok Melchizedek, calm down with all the preaching. Don't start a flame war by calling the Catholic church "The Great Whore". It's baiting, quit it.

 

[CptStern]

:rolling:

"avert your eyes children he may take on other forms"!

 

[Letters]

I noes, I'm in zee cult! I must REPENT! ****! WHERE DO I REPENT?! HOW?! I'm in a cult, dammit, I don't know HOW to repent! WHERE'S MY STICK I NEED TO HIT MYSELF IN THE HEAD! Did he say antichrist?! Sweet Zeus on Olympous, WHAT DO I DO?!

* Letters knocks himself out with the stick

 

[qckbeam]

I'm not "baiting". I stand up for the Word of God. The Roman Catholic Church is clearly the cult spoken of in the prophecies. EVERY prophecy fits. It is important that Catholics know this so that they can Repent and recieve the One True God. The day of the Antichrist is almost at hand and they are running out of time!

Yes, you are baiting. Don't go about looking for trouble by calling other peoples religion "The Great Whore". Don't argue about it in this thread or any other.

 

[outpost]

I'm not "baiting". I stand up for the Word of God. The Roman Catholic Church is clearly the cult spoken of in the prophecies. EVERY prophecy fits. It is important that Catholics know this so that they can Repent and recieve the One True God. The day of the Antichrist is almost at hand and they are running out of time!

I definetly see it as baiting. You shouldn't be making fun of other people/ forcing your beliefs on people. Everyones entitled to their own beliefs.
edit* dammit qckbeam you beat me to it

 

[slicktick]

Originally Posted by CptStern
you're catholic not christian. Christianity is an off-shoot of catholicism

many of the christian faiths today are offshoots or reforms of catholicism (in fact most I can think of are) but there are other Christian faiths that are not. I happen to be a Mormon (Latter Day Saint) and we believe that the fullness of our faith was restored to the earth by a prophet, therefore, I am Christian and not an offshoot of Catholicism. That would make my belief that our church was restored and not reformed. We believe ourselves still to be a part of the Christian community (anyone who believes in Christ) and to say that ALL christians are offshoots of Catholicism is silly and incorrect.

 

[CptStern]

I'm not "baiting". I stand up for the Word of God. The Roman Catholic Church is clearly the cult spoken of in the prophecies. EVERY prophecy fits. It is important that Catholics know this so that they can Repent and recieve the One True God. The day of the Antichrist is almost at hand and they are running out of time!

man.......do you know how :rolling: that sounds?

 

[outpost]

man.......do you know how :rolling: that sounds?

It sounds very crazy. Damn, and I thought my parents were over religious.

 

[Letters]

Seems whenever we get religious discussion going around, we get another sidharta/other-similar-dudes guy in heah.

 

[CptStern]

many of the christian faiths today are offshoots or reforms of catholicism (in fact most I can think of are) but there are other Christian faiths that are not. I happen to be a Mormon (Latter Day Saint) and we believe that the fullness of our faith was restored to the earth by a prophet, therefore, I am Christian and not an offshoot of Catholicism. That would make my belief that our church was restored and not reformed. We believe ourselves still to be a part of the Christian community (anyone who believes in Christ) and to say that ALL christians are offshoots of Catholicism is silly and incorrect.

jebus H christ I wish I had said something else like: "this thing on my neck is getting bigger"...anything but what I said about christians...dam you jebus lovers and your fire and brimstone

 

[Apos]

I'm not "baiting". I stand up for the Word of God. The Roman Catholic Church is clearly the cult spoken of in the prophecies. EVERY prophecy fits. It is important that Catholics know this so that they can Repent and recieve the One True God. The day of the Antichrist is almost at hand and they are running out of time!

Lol, either Jack Chick the Left Behind series has gotten to this poor guy first. There may be time to save him if we can perform an emergency lobotomy.

 

[slicktick]

I didnt say anything bad about you, just informing you of what is true. Sorry if you cant take that. And did I mention fire and brimstone... no I believe that was the wack job above.

 

[CptStern]

Lol, either Jack Chick the Left Behind series has gotten to this poor guy first. There may be time to save him if we can perform an emergency lobotomy.

I'll bring the butter knife :E

 

[outpost]

I'm just winning friends and influencing people. To clearify, it is not "our" Fire and Brimstone. Its "yours". All those who have not been covered in the Blood of the Lamb on the day of Judgement will perish in the Lake of Fire. Our God is a Consuming Fire. Hell is real my friends. By the Grace of God, He has provided a way out and into Paradise with Him. But too many are decieved by the Enemy and fall by the wayside. They dont know Truth when they see it. "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not" - John 1:5

But I'd rather not be covered in lamb blood. I'd imagine that it would be most uncomfortable.

 

[Letters]

winning friends and influencing people

Oh, read the book?

 

[Apos]

im sorry but i dont think so.. im basing my statements off what webster.com says as the definitions for these two belief systems.

Ah yes, webster. Have any idea who webster was or where these particular choices of definitions come from?

do you want to challenge the dictionary?

Sure. You don't seem to have a clue what a dictionary is, apparently.

here is the webster defintion for atheism.

Main Entry: athe·ism
Pronunciation: 'A-thE-"i-z&m
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a- + theos god

Right there: godless. I'm godless.

1 archaic : UNGODLINESS, WICKEDNESS
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity

This is an English site: you could at least use a real dictionary instead of the American training wheels dictionary. Oxford complete is the only real authoritative dictionary, with all the usages and no major biases.

so its not small minded at all actually. remember, we have dictionaries so we dont have to debate the meaning of words!

Actually, dictionaries are records of _common usage_, nothing more than that. Every good dictionary has an introduction explaining that.

an atheist is one who doesn't believe in the existence of a deity. any deviance from that, and you are not an atheist and you need to make up your own word!

Actually, there's plenty of usage for atheist meaning what I say it does. Not only is it the original derivation of the word, but it's what the majority of self-proclaimed atheists have said it means, and frankly, their word is a lot more important than how theists want to negatively define us. Just because a theist bigot like webster comes along and tries to creatively define atheists so they look ridiculous (note, he also defines God as "the creator of the universe" without any qualification, but then describes every other belief with more conditional words like "the belief of some that") doesn't change that. Ever heard of technical usage? Theists have an advantage in that they can define athesits anyway they like (notice "wickedness": basically working slander of a people right into a definition of who they are?) and there are more of them. But atheists don't have to put up with it.

If you don't know anything about derivations, usage principles, and so on, then please, don't try to pretend you understand how language or dictionaries work.

And if you want to bypass this whole discussion, I'm happy to be called a non-theist if that makes you more comfortable. The main reason I still use atheist is that people like you usually turn out to be playing a sort of game.
They ask me if I believe in god, and I say no, I don't.
So they say "So, you're an atheist."
And I say, "Sure, whatever you say."
And they say: "So that means you believe there is no god, that's crazy, you can't prove that, etc. you're wicked yadda yadda yadda"
And I sigh, sadly. You people want it both ways: the expansive definition to include us, and then the less expansive definition in order to ascribe beliefs to us and nasty lies about us that we don't actually hold. Are we supposed to put up with this sort of tomfoolery indefinately?

 

[Apos]

I'm just winning friends and influencing people. To clearify, it is not "our" Fire and Brimstone. Its "yours". All those who have not been covered in the Blood of the Lamb on the day of Judgement will perish in the Lake of Fire.

Sounds like your God is a real jerkwad. I wouldn't want to pledge fealty to such a nasty God even if he existed, and even if he tried to bully me into it with a bunch of violent threats.

Our God is a Consuming Fire.

Sounds like a real great chap. And you actually LIKE this dude?

Hell is real my friends. By the Grace of God, He has provided a way out and into Paradise with Him.

Nice: so the idea is that he offers the ultimate threat and the ultimate bribe? He creates a problem and then offers a solution? Sounds like a guy that would burn down your house and then try to sell you fire insurance.

But too many are decieved by the Enemy and fall by the wayside. They dont know Truth when they see it. "And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not" - John 1:5

Sounds more like he was speaking about people like you. I'm sure you'll have fun in hell boiling in a lake of poo while all the Mormons are partying in heaven.

 

[slicktick]

Maybe we should have new rules on the forum about not proseliting. I mean, he is just putting forth his opinion and stuf, but seriously, come on. This guy just wants a reaction, and if he is sooooo into this religous stuf, he picked the wrong forums to come and talk to people.

Originally Posted by Apos
Sounds more like he was speaking about people like you. I'm sure you'll have fun in hell boiling in a lake of poo while all the Mormons are partying in heaven.

dude, now that was funny! can I get an Amen?!?! lol

 

[Mr-Fusion]

Why did Mechizedek get banned and his thread on the 9/11 thing got deleted?