What Valve Should Do About The Leak

[GhettoBebo]

I may get flammed for this post! but my fro :afro: and i beleive that Valve should release the game ASAP if the leak is real. The longer they wait the longer other companies can get their hands on it an use some of their codes. Im not saying release it tomorrow, but this should be motivation, not a delay. :cheers: Cheers!

 

[Yatta]

Because of your post, GehttoBebo, Valve has decided to release the game earlier. All hail GhetoBebo!

 

[GhettoBebo]

Thank you.. Thank you...

 

[OCybrManO]

They should get to work coding some major anti-cheat measures because it won't be long after the release until tons of hacks pop up.

 

[Stryyder]

Stop using outlook express would probably come first but after that.

1)Finish the game ASAP and release than start working on patches to close all the back doors they exposed

2)Hire a forensic computer firm to find the assholes asap

3)Contact the FBI and local attorney general and begin criminal investigations.

4)Slap every asshole you can prove that aided in the distribution of the code with a lawsuit and feed them to the authorities for prosecution

5)Hope that this doesn't effect licensing of the source engine.

 

[Cheetarah654]

how about you dont post this thread a second time since you got flamed earlier

 

[GhettoBebo]

i didnt get flammed go home cool guy

 

[poseyjmac]

its logical. i mean they should get it out the door so they make the most money they can before this code starts surfacing in other forms. the longer they wait, the worse it is.

 

[GhettoBebo]

Yes, i agree

 

[thop]

Looking at the source the game is far from ready yet, so even without it couldn't have come out before christmas.

 

[poseyjmac]

you agree with me agreeing with you?

 

[GhettoBebo]

Yes, i agree with u agreeing with me

 

[Zyphria]

Why not just go completely open source? Tag a closed-source security system on, and get feedback from the community on all aspects from AI, to models, to textures, etc.

 

[GhettoBebo]

That would cause Chaos... everyone would steal code, Keys. Not many Big Games Like HL2 Ever Go Open Source :S

 

[@bel]

no i think they should work on HL2 even longer, to make sure things obovious to be hacked will be somehow fixed...



...bad idea?

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my avatar is the REAL launcher icon from the source code. :cheese:
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[82ross]

How could any of us know if the game was far from ready. The source on gabes drive might not have been up-to-date.

The game was supposedly near finished months ago. You cant be sure about the source that was released, there might be more unhacked, the hackers might have more. The hackers might have all the models n sounds.

No-one knows.

 

[GhettoBebo]

There are 2 major points that Valve has to think about, Hackers and Other Companies. Hackers can be handled with using patches. But other companies getting the source an fixing it up an making a game cannot be stopped.

 

[Stryyder]

Originally posted by GhettoBebo
There are 2 major points that Valve has to think about, Hackers and Other Companies. Hackers can be handled with using patches. But other companies getting the source an fixing it up an making a game cannot be stopped.

Yes it can its called an injunction, lawsuit and prosecution, any one using the source code to produce a title they actually want to sell will get royally screwed.

 

[MadMechwarrior]

It would be a very bad move for other companies to profit on this. As for being up to date, its from Sept-11th.

 

[GhettoBebo]

Royally Screwed... I Like that
But im sure companies could look at it an get ideas and see what HL2 secrets are

 

[Quotidian---]

they wouldn't profit from this..

but they could look at it, and discover things they hadn't thought of.. or possibly update there real time land form scaping code, since i'm sure valve's kicks ass compared to everyone elses right now

 

[Stryyder]

Originally posted by GhettoBebo
Royally Screwed... I Like that
But im sure companies could look at it an get ideas and see what HL2 secrets are

I wouldn't hire a team of developers and tell the hey take a few months and poke throught the incomplet HL2 source code and then go make a game with some of the ideas. I think that would be a waste of time and money.

 

[alco]

LOL, no company is going to steal the code and use it to make a game. Not even indy devs, who'd suffer most from a lawsuit.

 

[poseyjmac]

like i said in another thread, its impossible for valve to fix hacks if the hacks aren't out yet, unless they go into the future and see what the hacks do.

does anyone else see how stupid this comment is?
"valve needs to delay the game so they can fix these hacks"

<valveworker> alright, i need to work on the source code and fix a hack that will be released when halflife2 comes out. ok here i go
<valveworker2>uhh, so what is the hack exactly?
<valveworker> errr uhh. dunno

hack is found, it gets fixed. this is the way of things unless you live in the bizarro world

 

[GhettoBebo]

I didnt mean They go paste the code compile it fix it a bit an name It Quarter Life 2... i meant look at it, understand the new engine created an use ideas

 

[OCybrManO]

Sure, actual hacks obviously have to be stopped after they are made... but there are very important things called preventative measures that help a lot to prevent hacks from being made in the first place.

... and when you sell a product to millions of people you want it to have as few possible means of exploitation as it can.

 

[poseyjmac]

Originally posted by OCybrManO
Sure, actual hacks obviously have to be stopped after they are made... but there are very important things called preventative measures that help a lot to prevent hacks from being made in the first place.

so regardless of the leak these measures would have been in place before hl2 got released anyway.. and your point is?

 

[OCybrManO]

Not necessarily.

As a developer you don't expect the hackers to get their hands on your source... so you don't spend the extra time making the software 100% bulletproof (you normally just have to plug the big holes) because without intimate knowledge of the way the software works hackers would not even think of some ways that the software could be exploited.

Valve will most likely have to add new safeguards or recode certain parts now that the hackers know exactly how the hl2.exe and other files work.

 

[poseyjmac]

ok i understand your point now

 

[poseyjmac]

i wish steam with its anti cheat measures could magically make it all better even if people had the source.