Why can't Gman be Gordon?

Skaadi said:
I can remember Adrian calling him the Gman. Not that it matters though.:x :rolleyes:
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I thought that Shepard didn't speak because he's a player charater (and not Barney) and there is no reference to him being called "Gman". In Shepard's diary it says "a really wierd looking civie" and that rumor says that he's either with some govenment department or a secret research group he is also refured to as "the govenment guy" and it states "i'm not shure he is a g-man" thats why I always call him "the G-man" because his name isnt gman and it's the closest we've got to an identifiaction for him.

Of course we all know he's acctually Keith from the Accounts department of the Sulsbury branch of Marks and Spencer who were paying for the research at the BMRF so they could teleport people from anywhare in the world into their shops so they have to buy stuff and boost their sales but it all went kinda wrong.... but that's another story.

It also seems (on a more serios note) that someone, possibly the G-man knew that the chances of the cascade happening were qutie high if not definite because the USMC was being redied for a mission there incase "it" happens.
 
I wonder why you see the Gman talking to a scientist in HL1 through the window...

/me speculates

EVIL SCIENTIST!
 
The only one who adress G-Man is Nihilanth, in HL1. Remember? "Deceive you.....He will...deceive you". God that made me shiver.
 
Pesmerga said:
I wonder why you see the Gman talking to a scientist in HL1 through the window...

/me speculates

EVIL SCIENTIST!
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Well...
Colonel Cubbage also speaks to G-Man.

/me continues speculation

Evil G-Man!
 
And he's on a tram car to!

EVIL TRAM CAR!

(and Gman stands for GlassMan)
 
Yes. Glassman. Of course. Why didn't I think of that?
 
aha! glass... man... all the peices come together now..
???
 
you forgot something :gordon has green eyes,g-man has blue ones,so unless he's not wearing contact lenses ,he can't be gordon
 
Cosmin said:
you forgot something :gordon has green eyes,g-man has blue ones,so unless he's not wearing contact lenses ,he can't be gordon
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First of all, G-Man has GREEN eyes. And second, contact lenses is a gay idea.

gman.jpg
 
Tell me, how can Gman be Gordon? Remember we can't use GMan in this as that his model name which is a word which means Goverment Guy.

In HL you are Gordon, so all you Gordons out there, any of you guys also the G-Man?.

Also why would the Gman be selling Gordon off like a Prostitute to the Rebels and Breen.


WAIT I KNOW WHY! I FIGURED IT OUT. GMAN CANNOT BE GORDON BECAUSE HEARING GORDON TALK IS AGAINST VALVE WAYS, AND IF GORDONS VOICE = GMANS VOICE THEN WE HEARD GORDONS VOICE THEN THE GAME IS RUINED!
 
iMMuNiTy said:
I'm probably the only one wondering this, but... Most of people seem to be concerned who is G-Man. What troubles me, though, is who he represents.

"You have done so well, in fact, I received several offers for your services."
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Actually some time ago I postulated the possiblity in these very Forums. That he was a weapons dealer. His Weapons consisted of living 'entities'. He WAS NOT a time traveller rather a inter-dimensional Rift Master. Consider he walks through doors that are not there. Consider you spot him throughout the game in various places. Unless he is travelling the same roads as Gordon how did he get into those places. Or appear on a tv in the background conversing with a Vort ? The Combine would be after him, as his 'weapon' is now engaged in destroying them. So if he was travelling the same roads there would be evidence of major fire fights.

I do not think he is human but assumes the guise like putting on a suit. In HalfLife never saw him until after the accident that dumped the aliens into Black Mesa. And then he appeared at first to be 'observing' events. We called him G-Man simply because he dresses like one. Government Agent ? NO , Gordon in the future NO, Alien ? YES , Vort ? Doubtful. Combine ? Most certainly NOT, so you see there is another player in the fold.
 
Gordon Freeman is probably just a coincedence someone found. It doesnt mean anything at all.
 
Gordon Freeman is probably just a coincedence someone found. It doesnt mean anything at all.
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....Dude G-man is a word...
G-Man means A goverment agent. So yes it's coincdence..it was his model name...it was his moel name because he looked like a Goverment Agent so they named him one.

We called him G-Man simply because he dresses like one.
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We called him G-Man because his Model name is Gman.
G-Man IS NOT SHORT FOR ANYTHING. IT MEANS(It's DEFINITION) GOVERMENT AGENT.
 
What's that, in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? NO! It's Government Man!
 
Sulkdodds said:
What's that, in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? NO! It's Government Man!
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lol

Seeing Gman fly is just as disturbing as seeing gman naked. :cheers:
Enjoy the images!!!!!!
 
Combine Elite said:
Actually some time ago I postulated the possiblity in these very Forums. That he was a weapons dealer. His Weapons consisted of living 'entities'. He WAS NOT a time traveller rather a inter-dimensional Rift Master. Consider he walks through doors that are not there. Consider you spot him throughout the game in various places. Unless he is travelling the same roads as Gordon how did he get into those places. Or appear on a tv in the background conversing with a Vort ? The Combine would be after him, as his 'weapon' is now engaged in destroying them. So if he was travelling the same roads there would be evidence of major fire fights.
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Interesting. Only the vorts' line "We serve the same mystery" kinda breaks your theory, though. If the G-Man kind of sells Gordon as a weapon, what do the vortigaunts have something to do with him? They don't look tough as a weapon. At least not as tough to be on the G-Man's list. ;)

And he's not working alone. He's a "lower rank", if one could call him that. "I have recommended your services to my... employers. And they have authorised me to offer you a job. They agree with me that you have limitless... potential." If they've authorised him to do something, then he's only like a secretary, like a right hand to those who are way above him. He is probably looking people suitable for his employers. But wha for? I don't know, every theory I try to make, breaks.
 
My whole fanfic centres around the idea that there're strangely powerful entities that recruit lesser intellects to do their dirty work, acting against everything from the Combine to sentient lobsters- but of course no one's entirely sure what, why and how the G-man is/does anything, which is the whole point really.

And Gman (or G-man, take your pick) isn't Gordon. It's simply a horribly contrived and lazy plot device, and Valve wouldn't stoop to employing it. Everyone's already said that before me, but hey, I'm just showing solidarity...
 
Aside from being a stupid plot device, it just doesn't make sense. Why would the G-Man threaten to essentially kill himself at the end of HL1?
 
Exactly Absinthe. Well, I think we succesfully proved and scared off the gman is gordon believer.
 
Absinthe said:
Aside from being a stupid plot device, it just doesn't make sense. Why would the G-Man threaten to essentially kill himself at the end of HL1?
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Because he already knew what choice he would take?

And as for hair color changes in HL1 Gordon's hair was red. In HL2 it's a dark brown.
 
DoctorWeeTodd said:
Because he already knew what choice he would take?

And as for hair color changes in HL1 Gordon's hair was red. In HL2 it's a dark brown.
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Seemed brown to me. You've probably zoomed in on the hair in a model viewer "A-ha! Conspiracy! Red hair!". Really, with all the low quality texturing, one might never know.

Okay, suppose he did knew that Gordon would take his offer. But we indeed have the possibility to choose, and G-Man teleports Gordon to his death. How do you explain that? :)
 
iMMuNiTy said:
Okay, suppose he did knew that Gordon would take his offer. But we indeed have the possibility to choose, and G-Man teleports Gordon to his death. How do you explain that? :)
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Not to say I support the idea of Gman being Gordon, but let's suppose he is and did allow Gordon to have that "It's time to choose" choice at the end of HL. If you remember from the end of HL2, the Gman says something to effect of "Rather than give you the illusion of free choice..." Now, I'm not sure how that particular phrase sits with anyone else, but it sounds as though the Gman is making a reference to Endgame in HL where is has given you the illusion of free choice. It's basically the idea of you have a right to choose, but if you don't choose my way, then you're dead. I know that sounds simplistic, but if you think about, that sort of ultimatum is the illusion of free choice, and that (to live--which is what instinct tells us to do) the only real choice is to join the Gman. Well, given what I just said (if it made any sense), one could say the Gman was certain Gordon would choose. Besides which, if the Gman is Gordon and Gordon is alive in HL2, then the idea of giving Gordon of choose of living or dying is moot for he clearly lives.

Now, that does mean I actually support the idea of Gman being Gordon.
 
DoctorWeeTodd said:
Because he already knew what choice he would take?
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Except certain death was a very real possibility at the time of the decision. Furthermore, we know for sure that refusing his offer would have resulted in Gordon's death.

Oh, and for the love of god, can people stop bringing up this ridiculous "Gordon Freeman" connection? The G-Man does not have an official name and he has never been referenced directly in the game. "G-Man" is the unofficial yet unanimously accepted alias derived from his model name. As in, y'know, gman.mdl? Because he looks like a GOVERNMENT MAN? Ring a bell?

Yes, their names are similar if you cut out nine freakin' letters. GJ You could relate anything to anything using that method.
 
SOCL said:
Well, given what I just said (if it made any sense), one could say the Gman was certain Gordon would choose. Besides which, if the Gman is Gordon and Gordon is alive in HL2, then the idea of giving Gordon of choose of living or dying is moot for he clearly lives.
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This is all semantics. Illusion of free choice, blah blah blah. It boiled down to "Join me or die". And the fact is choosing death was a very real decision. You could have chosen to turn down his offer and you could hear the disappointment in his voice. All the "Subject failed to" messages indicate that you were under evaluation and you were being watched. Would such things be necessary if the outcome was already known? Would they even make sense in the game's context if Gordon's future actions had already been determined? Not really.

If I go to a cafe, I can get coffee. I could also get tea. But no matter what I choose in the end, it still remains that I had a choice in the matter and I could just have easily gone the other way. The outcome doesn't make the said choice nonexistent.
 
EDIT: Nevermind, I tried to make something out, and failed. :p
 
Absinthe said:
This is all semantics. Illusion of free choice, blah blah blah. It boiled down to "Join me or die". And the fact is choosing death was a very real decision. You could have chosen to turn down his offer and you could hear the disappointment in his voice. All the "Subject failed to" messages indicate that you were under evaluation and you were being watched. Would such things be necessary if the outcome was already known? Would they even make sense in the game's context if Gordon's future actions had already been determined? Not really.

If I go to a cafe, I can get coffee. I could also get tea. But no matter what I choose in the end, it still remains that I had a choice in the matter and I could just have easily gone the other way. The outcome doesn't make the said choice nonexistent.
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Granted (and again, I don't agree with the idea of Gman being Gordon), but if we consider Gman to be Gordon BEFORE we consider the fact that Gordon had a choice, then it's established that Gordon made the choice that allowed him to be the Gman offering himself a "choice".

...this line of time-travel thought can only lead to maddness.
 
Aye, so we will lay to rest this particular topic in fear of losing our minds and coming off as total fools spouting pseudo-intellectual dribble (if it's not too late). :)
 
Am I too late to spout pseudo-intellectual dribble? :p
 
Absinthe said:
Yes, their names are similar if you cut out nine freakin' letters. GJ You could relate anything to anything using that method.
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Combine Elites are secretly cloned from Eli from the future. Don't you see? Combine Elites.

-Angry Lawyer
 
No, you got it all wrong! Breen is Eli from the future. Oh and don't tell me the skin colour differs that much. Think Michael Jackson.
 
And cows fly over the moon.

(Although in the HL universe, anything is possible!)
 
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