Why does my mouse stay on?

Stucco

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Hi. Could someone please tell me how to get my mouse to turn off when I power down my PC?

Specs, Custom Built:
AMD 3000+ 1.8Ghz OC'd to 2.2Ghz
1Gb DDR 400 Ram
Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939 Motherboard
Asus nVidia 6600 256MB Graphics card
etc.

Mouse is a Gigabyte Optical USB using a PS/2 adapter (that came with it), plugged into the PS/2 port (obviously).

The mouse is one of those clear ones that glows when it is active, so you can see how that could get annoying at night. I'm sick of turning off the PC at the wall, and plugging the mouse into a USB port is not an option either. I haven't seen an option in either the BIOS or the mouse properties box in the control panel to disable the "mouse constantly on" problem.

In the BIOS, none of the options to power up on mouse double click, or keyboard press etc. are activated, or any other "power up upon external happenings" options for that matter. Only hitting the actual power button on the case will power up my PC.

Is there a way to stop it glowing all night (i.e. cut the power to it) when the rest of the PC is totally shut down? I'm not going to keep switching off it at the wall! (The plug is in a hard to reach place).
 
You have to turn it off at the mains or if its easier, pull the power cord out of the psu.
 
Reaktor4 said:
You have to turn it off at the mains or if its easier, pull the power cord out of the psu.

Stucco said:
The mouse is one of those clear ones that glows when it is active, so you can see how that could get annoying at night. I'm sick of turning off the PC at the wall, and plugging the mouse into a USB port is not an option either. I haven't seen an option in either the BIOS or the mouse properties box in the control panel to disable the "mouse constantly on" problem.

In the BIOS, none of the options to power up on mouse double click, or keyboard press etc. are activated, or any other "power up upon external happenings" options for that matter. Only hitting the actual power button on the case will power up my PC.

Is there a way to stop it glowing all night (i.e. cut the power to it) when the rest of the PC is totally shut down? I'm not going to keep switching off it at the wall! (The plug is in a hard to reach place).
I thought that if I said this twice in my first post, I would avoid this impractical, and "noob" solution. I guess I was wrong.

I appreciate the help, but please read properly first.

Surely someone with super computer wizardry has an idea of bios / windows settings that can be fiddled with.
 
it happens, some mobos have some/all of the ports powered even when the system is shut down.

why isnt usb an option
 
USB's all used, and it doesn't solve the problem anyway. The mobo seems to keep the mouse powered / on standby for some reason, but surely that function can be set on or off. The keyboard doesn't stay on, so why should the mouse? Remember, I don't have any "power up on mouse double click" options turned on.
 
theres no such things as power up on mouse i belive.

what model is the mouse?
 
Yeah there is such a thing. The option to "power up on mouse double left click" is right there in my BIOS, along with "power up on (choose from assorted list of keyboard presses)." All of these options are disabled.

The mouse is just some basic gigabyte see-through mouse, as I said, (no serial no.'s that I can find) and it isn't the mouse that is causing the problem. A mouse does not store power, it must be supplied it- i.e. from the mobo. Also, I have tried 2 other mice, and it still does it.
 
Is the mouse being on that big of a problem that you have to make a thread about it. I wish that was the least of my computer worries.....
 
Codcommando said:
Is the mouse being on that big of a problem that you have to make a thread about it. I wish that was the least of my computer worries.....
Actually, it is that big of a problem for me- medical reasons etc- and I like to have control over my PC, not the other way around. It seems like an obvious thing to be able to do, (having the power cut to it when the PC is off), and even more to the point- it seems so un-necessary to have it on.

And I keep my PC running just how I like it, so yes- it is the only issue I have with my PC! But it is just as important to me, as say, your system crashing in the middle of something is to you.

Thank-you for your helpfull input, Cod.
 
LOL.

I would, but I'm sick of giving my PC a reacharound every time I turn it off.

Anyone else with an actuall technical solution?
 
I didnt mean to offend you, but since it is important to you,heres my two cents:Use a ps/2 to usb adaptor and plug it in your usb port.All newer motherboards ps/2 ports run on standby power,but usb sometimes does to, a USB hub should do it iff your usb runs in "wake on". That should do the trick brother. Iff I may, what is your medical condition and how does it relate to your mouse?
 
Stucco said:
USB's all used, and it doesn't solve the problem anyway. The mobo seems to keep the mouse powered / on standby for some reason, but surely that function can be set on or off.
USB doesn't solve it.

I have MS. I have trouble sleeping at the best of times, and to make it worse sometimes I get a sensitivity to light. I have tried covering it with clothes etc, but it still bugs me knowing it is still on anyway. I have a lot of time on my hands as I cannot be employed in a practical situation (sometimes I get so bad I can't walk or feel anything). I would just need too many random days off, etc. Sometimes I can't even lift my own son for a hug. I want to try and work from home doing web design / video editing / audio editing Photo editing etc, as I am very handy with anything to do with these things. Hopefully one day I can make it happen. My wife has been very good about it all.

I'm 26 before you start thinking I'm some old, computer illiterate, trying-to-keep-up-with-todays-kids, wierd guy!

Anyway, Alot of spare time = a great running PC, but one little thing bugs the hell out of me!
 
Thanks for the idea, but I already have overloaded my power socket with an 8-way adaptor- printers, scanner, external HD, speakers, etc...!

The mouse is a usb one, with a usb - ps/2 adaptor on it. Even if I did rig something to add an eternally powered usb hub, apart from the need to still turn that off at the wall, it would still bug me that I couldn't find a function that common sense tells me should be right there in either the bios, or possibly windows settings! Or some other programming solution that I haven't thought of!
 
Stucco said:
I thought that if I said this twice in my first post, I would avoid this impractical, and "noob" solution. I guess I was wrong.

I appreciate the help, but please read properly first.

Surely someone with super computer wizardry has an idea of bios / windows settings that can be fiddled with.
Reaktor4 said:
You have to turn it off at the mains or if its easier, pull the power cord out of the psu.
I thought that saying "you have to" once in my first reply would have been enough, but i guess i was wrong.... If no bios settings do it (and i know you have the latest bios, since j00r 1337), you cant do it.
btw, does anyone know how to add a couple of inches to my pen0r, im starting to get bored of only 9.5 inches. And i dont want to get one of those noob operations. There must be some magical way, so let me know.
 
Why is it being on an issue?

It's merely a fluke in how your motherboard distributes power through its ports. My motherboard will do that too, if I cut power from it while it's booting up.
 
Reaktor, don't be sad that your post was no use to me before you even posted it. I was clearly asking for help from people with more computer knowledge than "flip switch at wall to make PC off." How about you just don't worry about this thread, and go back to your 9.5 inches.

I'm just nicely asking if anyone may have a solution for me that meets the requirements I stated in the first post. When asked I even politely mentioned why a solution would be helpful.

Thank-you to those who have had a serious go at helping, and I would still appreciate any further serious suggestions.
 
Stucco said:
Reaktor, don't be sad that your post was no use to me before you even posted it. I was clearly asking for help from people with more computer knowledge than "flip switch at wall to make PC off." How about you just don't worry about this thread, and go back to your 9.5 inches.

I'm just nicely asking if anyone may have a solution for me that meets the requirements I stated in the first post. When asked I even politely mentioned why a solution would be helpful.

Thank-you to those who have had a serious go at helping, and I would still appreciate any further serious suggestions.
Do you have trouble understanding basic english? I suggest you read this.
Again, (unless you want to try to disassemble the bios and hack it yourself) you have to cut the power. If you still dont understand, refer to the above link.
 
Stucco said:
Mouse is a Gigabyte Optical USB using a PS/2 adapter (that came with it), plugged into the PS/2 port (obviously).

Thats the cause of your problem. Although I don't know why PS/2 port supplies power even if its off, I can only guess that it was a design flaw. This problem goes away if its connected by USB.

You could always unplug the mouse at night so it stops being fed power, or better yet, buy a USB hub to allow for extra usb divices plugged into your mobo
 
OK. Unplugging anything, or switching to USB is not an option. I know there are other ways to do this, because I have heard of some mobo's that have jumpers to do it, and others that have BIOS settings to do it, and I have heard of, but not been able to find, a way to do it in windows. I don't know if that is just a BIOS setting / patch to download, or what. I also freely admit that, as all of us, I do not know everything, so I have asked for any other solutions that meet my requirements that I may not even know about.

So no more "unplug _____" or "use USB" replies please! I'm looking for other solutions. And nice effort synthos, but the light is the red mouse sensor. Death- your suggestion has already been made and dismissed.
Reaktor4 said:
Do you have trouble understanding basic english? I suggest you read this.Again, (unless you want to try to disassemble the bios and hack it yourself) you have to cut the power. If you still dont understand, refer to the above link
What part of solutions that meet the requirements of my first post don't you get? Bye Bye. You aren't needed here.
 
Can anyone guess the quickest way to be absolutely certain that no one helps you?...

As an aside, if you've already perused your BIOS settings at your leisure and have yet to find an option that would seem to relate to post-shutdown PS/2 power, you may have this option available: switch the rocker on the back of your PSU to the off position. Voila!
 
JohnnyOnTheSpot said:
As an aside, if you've already perused your BIOS settings at your leisure and have yet to find an option that would seem to relate to post-shutdown PS/2 power, you may have this option available: switch the rocker on the back of your PSU to the off position. Voila!
As I already posted-
Stucco said:
I would, but I'm sick of giving my PC a reacharound every time I turn it off.

Anyone else with an actuall technical solution?
Why don't you guys get it that I'm looking for more than "switch it off at PSU / wall"? I'm trying to keep my replies polite, but rejecting the same 2 stupid solutions in slightly different forms over and over again is getting annoying. A 5 year old could suggest turning off at wall / PSU. This is not the solution that I am looking for, and I thought I made this clear already.

Using USB was my 1st idea before I had even started this thread, and it is not the solution that I am looking for, and again, I thought I made this clear already.



Get those famous HL2.net brains working!
 
stucco... turn your mouse upside down and hold it there for a couple seconds... does the light turn off/switch to a lower setting?
 
Here's the simplest solution I could come up with in the approximately 8.7 seconds I thought about it.

Put the mouse away.

You don't have to unplug it, just put it in a drawer or cabinet or if your desk is cabinetless like mine, put a box over it.

No boxes? Stuff it in a sock or red shirt.

Hire a body guard to sheild you from the light.

Pay some uber scientists to invent a mouse that turns on and off merely from your will power.

Your options are limitless.
 
I still don't see why it being on is a problem.

Just ignore the damn thing :/
 
Get a wireless mouse that you KNOW FOR CERTAIN will turn off once you start charging it on a dock or something of that nature. Then, charge it every night.
 
Synthos- yep, the mouse is working as it should when the PC is on. Also:
Stucco said:
The mouse is just some basic gigabyte see-through mouse, (no serial no.'s that I can find) and it isn't the mouse that is causing the problem. A mouse does not store power, it must be supplied it- i.e. from the mobo. Also, I have tried 2 other mice, and it still does it.
I want so solve this issue, not ignore it. If you can't / don't want to help solve it people, that's fine, just please don't keep suggesting ways to ignore the problem.

And thank-you to those who are trying- keep those ideas coming!
 
I have been trying to figure out the way to do it through the Bios,no luck thus far. But I should have it for you by this weekend when I have access to the same motherboard you have. Have you been googling it and going through your BIOS yourself btw?
 
stucco that wasn't exactly my question.

My optical mouse turns the motion sensing light off when the mouse is turned upside down (I assume for safety considerations). If when the computer is on or off does the light turn off when you turn the mouse upside down?
 
Synthos- no, it doesn't, with the PC either on or off. I haven't heard of a mouse that does that! Although it would make sense to make them like that. I'm guessing that you were going to suggest that I turn the mouse upside down when I turn off the PC? Good idea, but I really want to solve this inside the workings of the computer. Thanks for having a go though. Any other ideas? (please continue if my assumtion of your idea was wrong though!)

Cod- yep, I have been googling it, but no luck with my specific mobo. Also went throuogh the BIOS, but can't seem to find anything that could affect it besides the options I already mentioned earlier. I appreciate any help.
 
if your not concidering the usb hub option because it requires to be plugged into the wall, dont worry about it, most usb hubs can run without being plugged into the wall.

also try updating the firmware of your mouse
 
Revisedsoul said:
also try updating the firmware of your mouse
Good call- I hadn't even thought of a mouse firmware / driver update- do they really need updating? Can you update a mouses firmware?

EDIT- Here is a pic so you can sort of see what I'm faced with. Even if I cover it at night, I still know it is there.... glowing.... waiting...

It bugs the hell outa me.
 

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yeah you can, just goto the manufacures website and see if the do
 
just a thought... unchecking the "allow this device to bring the computer out of standby mode" may work, but I'm not sure.

you can find the checkbox is device properties->power management of the mouse device properties.
 
Synthos said:
just a thought... unchecking the "allow this device to bring the computer out of standby mode" may work, but I'm not sure.

you can find the checkbox is device properties->power management of the mouse device properties.
I'm finding that unlikely seeing as that mouse is purely for satiating the neon tower alchemist as opposed to serving up the functionality. It will probably stay on until you kill the power at the switch.

I suggest a future for the mouse involving Ebay, and one for you (him) involving Intellimouse Explorer.
 
_Z_Ryuken said:
I'm finding that unlikely seeing as that mouse is purely for satiating the neon tower alchemist as opposed to serving up the functionality. It will probably stay on until you kill the power at the switch.

I suggest a future for the mouse involving Ebay, and one for you (him) involving Intellimouse Explorer.
LOL- you must work for Microsoft- instead of solving a problem, get rid of the thing causing it and act like it never happened. LOL. J/K

Synthos- I like the sound of that. I went to the control panel (classic view) and went into the mouse folder. No device properties > power management tab though! I might just have been in the wrong place though, so if you could post the exact way you got there, starting from the desktop I guess, to avoid any confusion / mistakes. Thanks.
 
Jesus! that mouse is bright as hell,no wonder it bothers you. I thought you were complaining about a little optic light lol. Well im still workin on an internal solution for you, but I think you should go with the hub personally, or like Z-ryuken said, just get a different mouse like a logitech mx1000 laser, I love mine :)
 
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