Why dont they blow up...

[burner69]

when i said "so i heard i only meant that for the last line i wrote, everything else is still true watever you say.
look, think about this, if the terrorists didnt attack america on 9/11 in the first place, the usa woudnt have gone to afghanistan or iraq...

therefore more people would have been terrorised by the saddam regime or the taliban, or al-qaeda. and WHAt , saddam has no links to terrorists?! are you mad!! hes a Terorist himself, look what he did to the kurds and even the iranians back a decade ago.. back to the point, if al-jazeera wasnt broadcasing, al-qaeda would be able to broadcast thier lies, therefore recruit less people, therefore smaller army of suicide bombers!...

i rest my case, lol

Your case rises up again, displeased with it's burial.

Stop thinking 9/11 was the start of it. It takes a lot to drive a man to crash a plane into a building; they didn't chant "Death to America" for no reason, they have good reason to hate the US. They've been ****ed in the ass by the US many many times.

And so 9/11 happened that made it ok to totally arse up two countries. Admittedly Iraq is better off in some respects, but is still totally f**ked. Afghan is in tatters, all for the sake of trying to please the American people by catching the small minority who are terrorists.

Al Quaeda and Saddam are NOT linked. Ok? NOT LINKED? Saddam wanted them dead. THREAT TO HIS POWER.

 

[burner69]

look, you know iran WILL make nukes, while UK and US will keep them out of TERRORIST hands like IRAN.

what america need to do are fly them into space so no country can have them imo! fs

and since when did america give osama $1 billion, not according to the Clinton biography.. explain plz, lol

During the gulf the US gave Osama $1bn dollars, I'll have a scout around for a link for you. I first saw it on Bowling for Columbine, and have since seen other articles about it.

Iran aren't terrorists, stop being a biggot.

 

[Gray Fox]

everybody who doesn't speak arabic can't judge aljazeera really ..
except from their english website.
but the english website's content is not identical to the arabic one nor is it identical to their tv channel, the contents are a little bit "customized" for western readers.

What do you ean exactly by that, give examples.
Cause I assume that in arabic they are a lot more biased, btw I also heard that Al Jazeera does not call israel Israel but some insulting word and that Al Arabiya does call them Israel and that that provoked a lot of anger.
So give examples and explain the Israel thing please.

 

[Kangy]

look, you know iran WILL make nukes, while UK and US will keep them out of TERRORIST hands like IRAN.

what america need to do are fly them into space so no country can have them imo! fs

and since when did america give osama $1 billion, not according to the Clinton biography.. explain plz, lol

Yes, that's right, give America control of the world forever.

 

[Kangy]

therefore more people would have been terrorised by the saddam regime or the taliban, or al-qaeda. and WHAt , saddam has no links to terrorists?! are you mad!! hes a Terorist himself, look what he did to the kurds and even the iranians back a decade ago.. back to the point, if al-jazeera wasnt broadcasing, al-qaeda would be able to broadcast thier lies, therefore recruit less people, therefore smaller army of suicide bombers!...

i rest my case, lol

Ugh. My patience is running out.

Saddam's gassing of the Kurds and Iranians were done with American weapons, and were acts of DICTATORSHIP AND WAR, not terrorism. There's a great big line between the two.

Al Jazeera is not a propaganda tool. They've never said "join Al Qaeda and crush the Western infidels!" and if they ever did, Bush would destroy them with horrid accuracy.

 

[KoreBolteR]

Yes, that's right, give America control of the world forever.

better than giving the power to terrorists, what do you think ? lol

 

[burner69]

better than giving the power to terrorists, what do you think ? lol

Terrorists are people forced to take direct, violent action, because their political/religious beliefs are threatened.

America routinely kills hundreds of thousands of people, is the biggest cause of pollution (and has no intention of stopping it), happily brain washes its citizens for its own good (see propaganda videos like reefer madness and duck and cover... and fox news), and is intent on pushing its ideals into every country that does not conform.

I don't want them ruling the world.

Explain why Iran don't have the right to have nuclar weapons, if America does.

PS: I dont like nukes

 

[KoreBolteR]

Terrorists are people forced to take direct, violent action, because their political/religious beliefs are threatened.

America routinely kills hundreds of thousands of people, is the biggest cause of pollution (and has no intention of stopping it), happily brain washes its citizens for its own good (see propaganda videos like reefer madness and duck and cover... and fox news), and is intent on pushing its ideals into every country that does not conform.

I don't want them ruling the world.

Explain why Iran don't have the right to have nuclar weapons, if America does.

PS: I dont like nukes

no terrorists are people who kill hundreds of thousands of people...
alright think of this, u think its right for a terrorist to capture innocent people, kill them and broadcast thier killing?
answer me that.

 

[burner69]

no terrorists are people who kill hundreds of thousands of people...
alright think of this, u think its right for a terrorist to capture innocent people, kill them and broadcast thier killing?
answer me that.

No I don't.

I believe that in the first week of bombings in Afghan, more innocents were killed than in 9/11. The bombings went on. Then came Iraq.

Are you saying that this is justifiable?

Are you saying that it's justifiable to corner political ideas and create terrorists?

Both sides are doing no good. It's just a question of who is the worst. I'm currently undecided, but tend to argue against the US because a) I don't like their methods b) I don't like the way they try and tell me it's all ok what they're doing c) There is enough anti-terrorist arguments about, all valid (near enough). I like to try and see the flip side.

And yes terrorists are pretty much what I said earlier. And they are what you said; the murderers of thousands of people. You need to look at WHY they do it, to stop it. Fighting them clearly makes things worse.

 

[Bait]

no terrorists are people who kill hundreds of thousands of people...
alright think of this, u think its right for a terrorist to capture innocent people, kill them and broadcast thier killing?
answer me that.

Answer me this.

Do you think its right for the states to invade a country under false pretenses, bomb civilian areas, and tell the people that Iraq is a safer and better country?

If you are stuck in the dillusion that America's hands are free of innocent blood, then there is little we can do for you.

Speaking of killing hundreds of thousands of people.....http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996596

 

[seinfeldrules]

Speaking of killing hundreds of thousands of people.....http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996596

Speaking of falling for propoganda...

 

[Ennui]

are you denying that there have not been tens of thousands of civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan? 100,000 might be an overly liberal estimate, but it's collosally wrong either way.

 

[CptStern]

no terrorists are people who kill hundreds of thousands of people...

wrong, show one terrorist event that killed hundreds of thousands of people ...sorry only nation states do that sort of big numbers

alright think of this, u think its right for a terrorist to capture innocent people, kill them and broadcast thier killing?
answer me that.

answer me this, do you think it's right for a government to kill tens of thousands of civilians on nothing more than lies? and then lie about it after it's all said and done:

"Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it. "

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

 

[seinfeldrules]

Answer the question he provided stern. It shouldnt be too hard to say 'no', but you avoided even that.

 

[Gray Fox]

no terrorists are people who kill hundreds of thousands of people...
alright think of this, u think its right for a terrorist to capture innocent people, kill them and broadcast thier killing?
answer me that.

NO it's not ok, but I fail to see your point, I mean we (America Bashing ;P) liberals have allready condemmed them for those thing, why should we stand by idely while the US is also commiting war crimes. Lisen the reason why there is so much more debate when the US does this kind of a thing is simply becasue they are saying they are there to protect those people, and they uphold the geneva convention and because we believe that they invaded Irak for false reasons. And when you have two sides claiming the opposit things then you get a debate, and the fact that the US is the most powerful country in the world makes it even more of an important debate. Listen it seems that the US is doing everything opposit of what it says it stands for :angel: :angel:

 

[burner69]

Answer the question he provided stern. It shouldnt be too hard to say 'no', but you avoided even that.

Because the answer is so obvious. I don't like it when people arguing against the US get accused of being terrorists, claiming that we condone teir activities. It's stupid, and very offensive.

 

[seinfeldrules]

Because the answer is so obvious. I don't like it when people arguing against the US get accused of being terrorists, claiming that we condone teir activities. It's stupid, and very offensive.

It was just a simple question. Stern didnt respond. I think it is only polite to respond to the posted question before making one of your own.

and the fact that the US is the most powerful country in the world makes it even more of an important debate.

This made your whole post worthwhile to read grey fox :angel:

 

[Gray Fox]

Good, but on what points do you agree or disagree with me.

 

[Absinthe]

Answer the question he provided stern. It shouldnt be too hard to say 'no', but you avoided even that.

The question is a stupid ****ing trap set up just so Kore can say "Aha! Got you there!". I would also avoid the question. You would do the same if posed a similarly stupid one.

 

[hasan]

Actually, Al-Jazeera calls israel "israel" and writes its name on the map, which makes us (arabs and muslims) angry, beause we don't recognize the "state" of israel, it's called "the zionist entity" and on the map we write "occupied palestine".

so, you "heard"?
I wonder what other things you heared!!!???!!

btw, kidnapping videos are recruting tools for americans, not alqaeda.

America is mad at aljazeera becaue they "expose" their attrocities, as opposed to Fox "magnifying" the accomplishments of bush.

 

[KoreBolteR]

Actually, Al-Jazeera calls israel "israel" and writes its name on the map, which makes us (arabs and muslims) angry, beause we don't recognize the "state" of israel, it's called "the zionist entity" and on the map we write "occupied palestine".

so, you "heard"?
I wonder what other things you heared!!!???!!

btw, kidnapping videos are recruting tools for americans, not alqaeda.

America is mad at aljazeera becaue they "expose" their attrocities, as opposed to Fox "magnifying" the accomplishments of bush.

no cos there are people sick enough to recruit to al-qaeda cos they get the thrill in killin innocent people. = TERRORISTS!

and half of you here defending them, cant believe my eyes :dozey:

 

[Eg.]

wow, hes proud that on "his" map its called occupied palastine.

note; saddam had that map drawn up, and he what, racist(he also said kuwaits part of iraq). another funny thing is he is in canada now, and i dont know if they would be horribly offended by what he says now or to polite to say anything

 

[seinfeldrules]

alright think of this, u think its right for a terrorist to capture innocent people, kill them and broadcast thier killing?
answer me that.

Stern, answer the question. Its a simple response. Do you really need to dodge around something this basic?

 

[Eg.]

what i do to hasan is just repeat the question over and over, having a fight inbetween two people will get u no where, but having everyone else notice, ahh thats the goal

 

[CptStern]

Stern, answer the question. Its a simple response. Do you really need to dodge around something this basic?

why does that even have to be dignified with a response? wtf other answer could there be?

 

[hasan]

no cos there are people sick enough to recruit to al-qaeda cos they get the thrill in killin innocent people. = TERRORISTS!

You probably just "heared" that on Fox or something ..

dude, if you don't understand arabic, and don't want to bother to look at their english website, how the hell did you claim to know enough about them so as to debate about it?

saddam had that map drawn up

lol ... it's not like he made up the term "occupied palestine", nor is it like he is the one who started writing it on maps!
duh!

funny thing is he is in canada now

meh, canada is a free country!!1111
btw everybody here hates bush, I'm sure Canadians would find your posts offensive.

 

[CptStern]

we do

 

[GiaOmerta]

http://www.**************.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_22.gif

The justice... where is it?!?

 

[gh0st]

we do

how about we blow up cptsterns igloo instead?

all in favor say die...

 

[seinfeldrules]

why does that even have to be dignified with a response? wtf other answer could there be?

Coming from you...?

The justice... where is it?!?

haha that is such a classic picture.

 

[CptStern]

how about we blow up cptsterns igloo?

dem's fightin words!! :farmer:


:upstare:

 

[CptStern]

Coming from you...?.

really? I'm not the one trying to justify the deaths of 500,000 children

"we think it was worth it" - Madeleine Albright

 

[gh0st]

dem's fightin words!! :farmer:


:upstare:

dont make me grab my shotgun with pitchfork attachment. ill open my fence to canada and have my cows eat all your snow and polar bears.

"we think it was worth it" - Madeleine Albright

its time youve found new material, that quotes lost some shine over the years.

 

[CptStern]

sure pally, do you even know where canada is?

here's a map so you dont get lost :E

 

[seinfeldrules]

really? I'm not the one trying to justify the deaths of 500,000 children

"we think it was worth it" - Madeleine Albright

Still no response. What a suprise. Well I suppose that since you wont answer that simple question it would do no good to ask you if it is best for the Iraqi people that Saddam has been removed from power.

 

[gh0st]

according to that map ive been part of canada all along. ah! a polar bear!

 

[hasan]

http://www.**************.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_22.gif
The justice... where is it?!?

Maybe it's in destroying NYC and building a new city in its place, we'll call it Qaeda and declare it an independent state. and let the millions of americans living in it go to hell, American soil is huge, they can go somewhere else! /sarcasm

 

[GiaOmerta]

I got your answer seinfeld.

http://www.**************.com/nimages/signs/large/pw_sign_05.gif

Revealing the true colors huh hasan? *points to chessboard* It's your move.

 

[seinfeldrules]

Maybe it's in destroying NYC and building a new city in its place, we'll call it Qaeda and declare it an independent state. and let the millions of americans living in it go to hell, American soil is huge, they can go somewhere else! /sarcasm

Then we can all strap bombs on each other and scream like a bunch of loonies?! I cant wait!

 

[hasan]

Then we can all strap bombs on each other and scream like a bunch of loonies?! I cant wait!

no becuse the UN will issue a resolution to divide nyc into two parts, one for us, and one for you.
ofcourse you'll refuse and fight us, so we will fight you to defend ourselves and in the process eat more land. and hey! go somewhere else and let us live in peace!!!!!11 you f8ing greedy creatures! what are you? you don't exist, you don't have a history, just a bunch of immigrants! you're not "people".
/sarcasm