why Doom 3 sucked.

[iMMuNiTy]

Reasons why I hate DooM 3:

- Poor storyline.
- Poor gameplay. Seeing Half-Life 2, its competitor, taking the lead mainly because of the gravity gun, it copied it, renamed it, and put it into a quick-made EP. Lame.
- Poor sounds. As mentioned earlier. Piss-weak sounds.

After I noticed issues, which I list below, I considered DooM 3 to be one of the worst sequels ever made (IMO obviously). It soaked earlier Dooms in mud.

- Low-polygons. I'd rather play a game with a high polygon count and low-res textures than vice versa. People really look ugly "low-polygoned". That doesn't apply to monsters, though - you can't tell whether it's a low-polygon issue, or this is how the monster truly looks like.
- Darkness. I found the beginning intriguing and, well, scary. However it got monotonous further in-game, to the point of boredom. Seriously, though: we fought against hordes of combine soldiers in Half-Life 2, slowed down time and took every enemy out in Max Payne series, took out half of Hell inhabitants in Painkiller, and we're supposed to be afraid of dark? Pffft. Silent Hill, Resident Evil, F.E.A.R. - now those are scary games. For me, darkness is simply a lame excuse to cover up graphical isues and bugs.

Note the first sentence of my post - "Reasons why I hate DooM 3:". Not "Reasons why DooM 3 sucked", because technically, the game was pretty good. It used the shaders well, the monster design was pretty good, the AI was a standart. But for me, DooM 3 was a bad game. 'Nuff said.

 

[DEATH eVADER]

Doom3 shit! Ressurection of Evil more challenging yet more shitter!

 

[dream431ca]

I liked doom 3..I'll like it more when I hook my PC up to my big 5.1 stereo.

 

[Uriel]

I woulda been a lot happier with an old fashioned shotgun. Just like the old one (drools).

 

[DeusExMachina]

I woulda been a lot happier with an old fashioned shotgun. Just like the old one (drools).

Seeing as how it took place in the future, it wouldn't have made a lot of goddamn sense now would it?

 

[bam23]

Oh yea, and the fact that there isn't a single roll of duct tape or shoulder mounted lights in the future makes perfect sense

 

[DeusExMachina]

Never said it did.

 

[Sanius]

Why did I hate doom 3? Well, I didn't hate it. I just didn't like it, here is why.

The game was a so-called "remake" of doom. But did I see any cacodemons? Did I see a cyberdemon that wasn't easy to kill? did I see a spider mastermind? No, I did not. The game had terribly stale combat. None of the guns in the game had anything special. Unless you counted the shotgun, which is the only weapon worthwhile in it. Seriously, you can take down a ****ing baron of hell with that thing.
Lets not forget the game ran like shit. My 6800 and ect ect runs at about 30 fps in a firefight, while say, FEAR, with more light and fighting about 5 enemies with lots of particle effects and shadows, runs at 30-40 (lets not forget that doom 3 mostly had you fighting one-two enemies in a small dark room)

Scares were not scary, they were just audio scares, I can't stress this enough. For something to be scary, you need something visually scary, something that sounds scary, and good timing. doom 3 just stuck in that old scientist guy laughing and a ragdoll flying and then iD and magazines around the world marked the game as terrifying

Graphics didn't look that great to me afterawhile, atleast compared to FEAR (while still looking kind of the same (on my settings), runs alot better)

 

[Max_Payne]

in my opinion doom3 was brilliant. why? because it was aimed at getting people to get to use their imagination and get sucked into a world of darkness and terror. it worked for me.. i love being scared. and thats where they were striving at. juss like the silent hill series... they wanted u to thinka bout what might be around the next corner. for all of u who .. like myself... used a little imagition and was creeped out. i commend you. For those of you who didnt, dont worry its all good, all im tryin to say is let go. dont bring up your expectations for any game... and play it minute by minute rather goin into it and whomping it in two days.

PEACE

Mike:naughty:

Mike

 

[iMMuNiTy]

Seeing as how it took place in the future, it wouldn't have made a lot of goddamn sense now would it?

Wouldn't it be cool? In the future, among all those creatures, with an ol' rusty Doom II shotgun. The player would say among the lines of "I was saving this for a special moment...". At least you could sticky tape a flashlight to it.

 

[Lucid]

Why did I hate doom 3? Well, I didn't hate it. I just didn't like it, here is why.

The game was a so-called "remake" of doom. But did I see any cacodemons? Did I see a cyberdemon that wasn't easy to kill? did I see a spider mastermind? No, I did not. The game had terribly stale combat. None of the guns in the game had anything special. Unless you counted the shotgun, which is the only weapon worthwhile in it. Seriously, you can take down a ****ing baron of hell with that thing.
Lets not forget the game ran like shit. My 6800 and ect ect runs at about 30 fps in a firefight, while say, FEAR, with more light and fighting about 5 enemies with lots of particle effects and shadows, runs at 30-40 (lets not forget that doom 3 mostly had you fighting one-two enemies in a small dark room)

Scares were not scary, they were just audio scares, I can't stress this enough. For something to be scary, you need something visually scary, something that sounds scary, and good timing. doom 3 just stuck in that old scientist guy laughing and a ragdoll flying and then iD and magazines around the world marked the game as terrifying

Graphics didn't look that great to me afterawhile, atleast compared to FEAR (while still looking kind of the same (on my settings), runs alot better)

The Cacodemon's definitely there.
Perhaps you meant to say the Pain Elemental?

 

[Sanius]

sorry, I did mean to say pain elemental. thanks.

 

[JNightshade]

HEY! GUESS WHAT! YOU STUPID SHITS ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE!

Maybe you like Doom 3, maybe you don't. But does it really matter? I mean, this is Halflife2.net, not Ihatedoom3forthisandthisandthis.com. Why are so many of you intent on ruining my day by spreading the seeds of ignorance and fanboydom? Shame on you all! I had this conversation with the "**** HALO 2" crowd, and now I need to carry it over to you. The reason you all sound so stupid is that IT'S ALL OPINION. And the thing you continue to slam means NOTHING at all! You all could've become this passionate about politics, or world hunger, or disease prevention, or anything that actually matters (well, that's debatable for politics, but still) but NO, YOU all chose to wage a holy war on a game that came out a year ago, which everyone in their right minds has either moved on from or treats like every other game.
Bah. So just stop it. Please.

 

[AmishSlayer]

HEY! GUESS WHAT! YOU STUPID SHITS ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE!

Maybe you like Doom 3, maybe you don't. But does it really matter? I mean, this is Halflife2.net, not Ihatedoom3forthisandthisandthis.com. Why are so many of you intent on ruining my day by spreading the seeds of ignorance and fanboydom? Shame on you all! I had this conversation with the "**** HALO 2" crowd, and now I need to carry it over to you. The reason you all sound so stupid is that IT'S ALL OPINION. And the thing you continue to slam means NOTHING at all! You all could've become this passionate about politics, or world hunger, or disease prevention, or anything that actually matters (well, that's debatable for politics, but still) but NO, YOU all chose to wage a holy war on a game that came out a year ago, which everyone in their right minds has either moved on from or treats like every other game.
Bah. So just stop it. Please.

Hey...guess what? If we were gonna discuss politics or world hunger or disease prevention we would've picked a different place to post. You're posting in the General Games forum and as you said yourself, "this is Halflife2.net". The General Games forum is obviously set up for everybody to discuss OTHER games or gaming in general.

And how is it "fanboydom" to rip on both games? Many have said HL2's guns weren't that great and neither were Doom 3's (I'm with those people)

Of course it's all opinion...it's not like there's much to discuss when it comes to fact... Facts can only be stated...not debated...and that's no fun.

I just think we struck a nerve with a Doom 3 fan.

I hated the AI...or whatever made EVERY monster just shoot or charge you. If he charges? Just stand still with your shotgun...wait for it... *BLAM*...moving on. If he shoots from one position you can peek and shoot quickly with another gun or lob one of your 50 grenades... hooray for amazing battles...

HL2's AI was better but it still didn't challenge me.

 

[Lt. Drebin]

HEY! GUESS WHAT! YOU STUPID SHITS ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE!

Maybe you like Doom 3, maybe you don't. But does it really matter? I mean, this is Halflife2.net, not Ihatedoom3forthisandthisandthis.com. Why are so many of you intent on ruining my day by spreading the seeds of ignorance and fanboydom? Shame on you all! I had this conversation with the "**** HALO 2" crowd, and now I need to carry it over to you. The reason you all sound so stupid is that IT'S ALL OPINION. And the thing you continue to slam means NOTHING at all! You all could've become this passionate about politics, or world hunger, or disease prevention, or anything that actually matters (well, that's debatable for politics, but still) but NO, YOU all chose to wage a holy war on a game that came out a year ago, which everyone in their right minds has either moved on from or treats like every other game.
Bah. So just stop it. Please.

Hey, don't sweat it man. As much as a lot of folks didn't like Doom 3, they're in the minority. It's a great game...if all these things people keep listing as problems with the game take away from their overall enjoyment, then it's their problem....further, if they want to waste their time bitching about it then....well..again, it's their problem. I recognize the game is not without faults, no game is.....except Ocarina of Time.....but I still enjoyed the game. Again, it's a fact, more people have enjoyed Doom 3 than have not. Just ignore it.

Besides, this discussion is so played out it's pathetic. There are more interesting threads on these forums.

 

[Uriel]

Hey, i liked DOOM 3, i gotta poster of it, read all of the novels of DOOM, have downloaded every DOOM midi. You could say im a DOOM freak. The first DOOM is my favorite game, i still play it. Its just got an atmosphere to it. What I wanted was a more open, brighter more action packed DOOM. Looks like I'm gonna get that in Quake 4, which makes me very happy. Believe me, I'm not a DOOM basher, I drove 2 damn hours just to buy it when it came out (I live in the middle of nowhere).

 

[KagePrototype]

HEY! GUESS WHAT! YOU STUPID SHITS ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE!

Maybe you like Doom 3, maybe you don't. But does it really matter? I mean, this is Halflife2.net, not Ihatedoom3forthisandthisandthis.com. Why are so many of you intent on ruining my day by spreading the seeds of ignorance and fanboydom? Shame on you all! I had this conversation with the "**** HALO 2" crowd, and now I need to carry it over to you. The reason you all sound so stupid is that IT'S ALL OPINION. And the thing you continue to slam means NOTHING at all! You all could've become this passionate about politics, or world hunger, or disease prevention, or anything that actually matters (well, that's debatable for politics, but still) but NO, YOU all chose to wage a holy war on a game that came out a year ago, which everyone in their right minds has either moved on from or treats like every other game.
Bah. So just stop it. Please.

If you need to vent, scream at the wall. Don't let out your frustrations out on people who want to discuss things in a somewhat civilised manner. No one is saying anyone's opinion is wrong here.

 

[Flyingdebris]

Personally i liked doom 3. I was able to get thoroughly in to it and enjoy it.

However, the game is much much better when you have found your minimod of choice from the hundreds that are out there. One or more for almost every gripe.

The only thing i really would have liked a lot better would be if the demons didn't always teleport in all the time. All too often the demons would teleport in and a battle ensued. I would have liked it better if there was less teleportation and more demons just marching around already there.

So far thats the only gripe mods haven't at the moment adressed.

-But if you want lights on your guns, there's like 50 mods for that alone.
-want a realistic shotty, like a 100 mods
-want lots of arbitary changes or different skin packs or sounds, like 300 mods

 

[AmishSlayer]

Hey, don't sweat it man. As much as a lot of folks didn't like Doom 3, they're in the minority. It's a great game...if all these things people keep listing as problems with the game take away from their overall enjoyment, then it's their problem....further, if they want to waste their time bitching about it then....well..again, it's their problem. I recognize the game is not without faults, no game is.....except Ocarina of Time.....but I still enjoyed the game. Again, it's a fact, more people have enjoyed Doom 3 than have not. Just ignore it.

Besides, this discussion is so played out it's pathetic. There are more interesting threads on these forums.

Two words: Water Temple

I also had lots of trouble with the auto-jumping system they had worked in. I just wish there was a jump button.

I liked Ocarina of Time a lot but it certainly isn't my favorite game or a flawless

 

[Lt. Drebin]

Two words: Water Temple

I also had lots of trouble with the auto-jumping system they had worked in. I just wish there was a jump button.

I liked Ocarina of Time a lot but it certainly isn't my favorite game or a flawless

Dude, just accept it. It's flawless.


Well, to me it is.

 

[Lucid]

I loved Doom 3.

I still play alot online, solely for the Last Man Standing mod.
Fast-paced-co-op-gaming-bliss.

 

[AmishSlayer]

Dude, just accept it. It's flawless.


Well, to me it is.

You know what would really make my day? If the next Zelda came out for some other system than GC...

...and you know what...when are they going to stop calling it "Legend of Zelda" ? It's hardly about Zelda any more it seems. Even when she isn't in the game it's still gotta be all about her... silly woman.

 

[Doppelgofer]

in my opinion doom3 was brilliant. why? because it was aimed at getting people to get to use their imagination and get sucked into a world of darkness and terror. it worked for me.. i love being scared. and thats where they were striving at. juss like the silent hill series...

were we playing the same game because i'm sure silent hill relies on psychological terror was as doom3 just threw imps at you from dark corners

effective for 5 minutes then wore thin