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Sensor Properties
Sensor Type Winbond W83627THF
Sensor Access ISA 290h
Motherboard Name Asus P4C800 / P4P800 / P4P8X

Temperatures
Motherboard 43 °C (109 °F)
CPU 57 °C (135 °F)

Cooling Fans
CPU 2744 RPM

Voltage Values
CPU Core 1.54 V
+3.3 V 3.31 V
+5 V 5.11 V
+12 V 11.92 V
+5 V Standby 4.53 V






Read the temperatures. That's after coming out of about half an hour of soldier of fortune 2 with an ati 9800, and intel p4 3.0ghz processor. Is my comp too burning hot?
 
Nope, sorry but that ain't just gonna cut it, what do you expect with a crappy computer like that ? No need asking.
 
What the hell are you talking about? Read more carefully, it's not a will my computer run HL2 thread. It's will my comp melt to shit if I play a game for too long thread.
 
It's pretty normal temperatures. But too warm for my taste, I like to keep my stuff cool. I would get good cooling for your harddrives. The No. 1 reason for harddrive crashes are that they have been over heated.

I have a Athlon XP 2000+ and it's about 37 °C idle
My case temp is 1c over room temp. So it depends on how warm it is in my room.. But mostly the case temp is about 28 °C (when idle).

I have spent allot of money on my cooling system though, some ppl don't think it's worth it.. But I do.
 
I think i said before?.....its a little warm.....but your computer is not gonna melt.....if it plays stable with no artifacts then you have nothing to worry about
 
What kind of cooling system? I have a back outtake fan. A front intake fan, a cpu heatsink and fan (obviously) and my case panel has a side vent with a funnel that covers over the cpu directly, pushing all the cpu hot air directly out the comp. So idk what to do! It's 40c and 53c idle, but during gameplay it shoots up about 5-7c. I've tried alot of different things but nothing seems to work. What kind of cooling system should I have?
 
cpu is a alittle warm. But then again its intel so..
Whats your psu 400+ i would hope.

zool's avatar < mine
 
My psu is 400w. Still, I want this thing cooled. Despite it being normal or a little warm. I'd really like it if I could get it around 28-30c. What do I have to do?
 
Originally posted by guinny
What kind of cooling system? I have a back outtake fan. A front intake fan, a cpu heatsink and fan (obviously) and my case panel has a side vent with a funnel that covers over the cpu directly, pushing all the cpu hot air directly out the comp. So idk what to do! It's 40c and 53c idle, but during gameplay it shoots up about 5-7c. I've tried alot of different things but nothing seems to work. What kind of cooling system should I have?
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I'm using water cooling, and I cool cpu, psu and chipset with it.. So I have no real heat source that blows out warm air in my case... Plus it keeps my cpu really cool, just the way I like it :). I have 2x80mm fans blowing in at my harddrives and another set of 80mm fans in the back blowing out "dead" air from the case. All fans are running at 6V, so it doesn't make much noise at all, which is another advantage when using water cooling. Also I am using a Lian-Li aluminum case which does make some difference in cooling too.
 
Originally posted by bx|ch3f_0z
zool's avatar < mine
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I wasn't aware that we were in a competition of who's got the best avatar.

At least that's me in my avatar.. I think it's a pretty safe bet to say that's not you in yours. Plus I've seen that pic that your using lots of times before.
 
If your not having any problems.....i strongly suggest you dont **** with it.
 
Originally posted by crabcakes66
If your not having any problems.....i strongly suggest you dont **** with it.
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Slightly overly heated systems normally don't start causing problems until it's too late. He might want to upgrade his cooling if he doesn't want some of his components to die on him.

However, If you have good quality stuff (like harddrives that are not too sensitive to heat etc) 40 °C in case temp should be fine.
 
Originally posted by Steven Q Urkle
you realize CPU fans take in air, and the side fan blows out air right?
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Most cpu fans blow ("out") hot air from the heatsink, which becomes a great heat source even if the rear fans blow allot of it out of the case (which also leads to warmer room temp, and all together warmer case temp)
 
guinny what cooling do you use? Besides a cpu fan do you have any? 2 back fans that take air out and 1 side fan that takes air in along with a front vent fan that takes air in would bet good airflow.
 
Originally posted by [Hunter]Ridic
guinny what cooling do you use? Besides a cpu fan do you have any? 2 back fans that take air out and 1 side fan that takes air in along with a front vent fan that takes air in would bet good airflow.
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thats how i have my case set up.



but as far as watercooling........you do not need it.
 
I know, and my case has a funnel attachment, that actually goes over the cpu's HS&F, and is attached to the side panel with a vent, so all that hot air blows out. I don't think I know my case temp. All I know is my CPU and MOBO temp. My case is ice cold, I have central air on all the time at 64f. I don't understand why it's still warm in there.
 
same here. I know my case is being shipped with 2 back fans and 1 side fan but it also has 2 other fan slots, 1 for hdd and 1 for the front. I hope to fill all the slots in about 2-3 weeks.
 
Originally posted by guinny
I know, and my case has a funnel attachment, that actually goes over the cpu's HS&F, and is attached to the side panel with a vent, so all that hot air blows out. I don't think I know my case temp. All I know is my CPU and MOBO temp. My case is ice cold, I have central air on all the time at 64f. I don't understand why it's still warm in there.
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By case temp I mean mobo temp.. Mobo temp is basically a sensor on the motherboard that tell's you how warm the air in your case is.
 
Oh, I thought it was how hot the CPU/mobo chip actually was. Also, I'm touching my heatsink and video card, and within seconds my finger is so hot I have to move my hand away. Is that normal?
 
Originally posted by guinny
Oh, I thought it was how hot the CPU/mobo chip actually was. Also, I'm touching my heatsink and video card, and within seconds my finger is so hot I have to move my hand away. Is that normal?
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With newer graphic cards, yes it is.
 
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb with 4xagp enabled though capable of 8x agp. My comp freezes when I play a game in 8x agp for some reason. :-\ even though my mobo supports it.
 
Well, the 9700 Pro and the 9800 Pro give of ALOT of heat during gameplay. In order to fix the overheating issues I had I did three things.

1) I took the fan off my card and pryed off the shim. The shim is just a hollowed out piece of metal glued to the GPU, it keeps the fan from operating correctly (it is on every 9x00 model card and is a major design flaw). I then applied Arctic silver thermal epoxy and reapplied the fan.

2)I bought a slot fan which is in the PCI slot next to my graphics card.

3) I never operate with the side cover on anymore. It really helps to keep the heat down if you take it off.

If you do those three things you can significantly lower your case temperature and ensure a longer lifespan for the components inside your case. If for some reason the graphics card is still creating tons of heat you could try buying a more powerful fan for your GPU or you could attach a CPU fan to the GPU (I've never done that but I hear it works very well). Good luck!

Edit: Try upping the voltage for the AGP slot in the BIOS slightly, and test out AGP8x, that may work.
 
How do I up voltage in BIOS? Also, I'll show pictures later, I've done alot to my 9800, you'll see it in the pics soon. :)
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
Well, the 9700 Pro and the 9800 Pro give of ALOT of heat during gameplay. In order to fix the overheating issues I had I did three things.

1) I took the fan off my card and pryed off the shim. The shim is just a hollowed out piece of metal glued to the GPU, it keeps the fan from operating correctly (it is on every 9x00 model card and is a major design flaw). I then applied Arctic silver thermal epoxy and reapplied the fan.

2)I bought a slot fan which is in the PCI slot next to my graphics card.

3) I never operate with the side cover on anymore. It really helps to keep the heat down if you take it off.

If you do those three things you can significantly lower your case temperature and ensure a longer lifespan for the components inside your case. If for some reason the graphics card is still creating tons of heat you could try buying a more powerful fan for your GPU or you could attach a CPU fan to the GPU (I've never done that but I hear it works very well). Good luck!

Edit: Try upping the voltage for the AGP slot in the BIOS slightly, and test out AGP8x, that may work.
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major design flaw my ass, if it was a flaw they would remove it.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
1) I took the fan off my card and pryed off the shim. The shim is just a hollowed out piece of metal glued to the GPU, it keeps the fan from operating correctly (it is on every 9x00 model card and is a major design flaw). I then applied Arctic silver thermal epoxy and reapplied the fan.
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Yeah, I always use arctic silver 3 myself.. Not only on cpu but on chipset and gpu also. Helps a little bit.

Originally posted by qckbeam
2)I bought a slot fan which is in the PCI slot next to my graphics card.
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Those are really noisy

Originally posted by qckbeam
3) I never operate with the side cover on anymore. It really helps to keep the heat down if you take it off.
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Even noisier.. I couldn't stand that. And also with time, you'll get allot of dust in your system. And we all know that dust in your computer is not really that good (makes the cooling less effective). That's why you should always use filters on fans that are in the front of your case blowing in cool air.

Anyway, I couldn't live with a noisy system like that. My computers on 24/7 so I like to keep it cool and low in noise. Which make water cooling the perfect solution for me.
 
Originally posted by zool
I'm using water cooling, and I cool cpu, psu and chipset with it..
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EDIT: lol, sorry.. what I meant to say was.. I'm using water cooling, and I cool cpu, gpu and chipset with it..

gpu, not psu.. I don't know where my head was when I wrote that.. But I think most ppl understood what I meant.. Don't think there is such a thing as a water cooled psu :cheese:
 
major design flaw my ass, if it was a flaw they would remove it.
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It's a known fact that the older revisions of the Radeon 9700 Pro have terrible problems with heating due to the shim lifting the fan off the GPU. It was said to be fixed in tha latest revisions but it isn't. The problem also affects some 9800 Pro's as well. Removing it and doing what I said fixes the overheating issues that plauge some 9x00 cards. It is a major design flaw because it lifts the fan off the GPU and does not allow the thermal epoxy to transfer heat from the GPU up to the fan correctly which in turn causes some cards to experience overheating issues. One other thing about the 9700 and 9800 (pro or not), the stock fans really suck, that's why I put in a slot fan in even after I had removed the shim (slot fans aren't loud at all IMO).
 
Do you have a picture of what your talking about? Id assume they would fix it, but if they didnt i would like to know what it is.

EDit- i dont think heating issues will matter for me cause im getting 5 fans + a cpu fan, but i would still like to know none the less.
 
It really depends on the cpu. I belive mine is rated for 85, but i ahve 72 degrees as the shutdown point. You have nothing to worry about though, im running 10 degrees hotter.
 
Originally posted by qckbeam
One other thing about the 9700 and 9800 (pro or not), the stock fans really suck, that's why I put in a slot fan in even after I had removed the shim (slot fans aren't loud at all IMO).
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I'm pretty picky when it comes to noise levels.. I try keeping all my fans under 20dbA. I think slot fans are about ~37-40-something dbA(correct?), which is loud to me.

Originally posted by qckbeam
It's a known fact that the older revisions of the Radeon 9700 Pro have terrible problems with heating due to the shim lifting the fan off the GPU. It was said to be fixed in tha latest revisions but it isn't. The problem also affects some 9800 Pro's as well.
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Do you know which brands of 9800pro still has this problem? So we know which ones to keep away from.
 
hehe i hope its not the xtasy ones. Im gonna go look in the package right now.

nm, i cant even tell. I doubt raising the fan and heatsink 3mm could hurt??
 
Well, it does some cards since heat is not properly transferred. It's not an issue with all cards though, it seems to affect random ones from any vendor. One other thing I noticed, when I lifted the heatsink off my GPU here was no thermal epoxy on the GPU, I believe this is because the epoxy is put on the fan and the fan is put on the card, but the shim keeps the fan and heatsink from actually touching the GPU as well as the epoxy. To check whether or not your getting the proper transfer of heat just pull the four pins of the fan and lift off the heatsink. The shim is right under it. Take a screwdriver or razor and pop it off. Then scrape off the old paste from you fan and HS, apply arctic silver and reapply the fan. It takes 5 minutes total. It fixed all my problems.
 
Is there anyway to tell without taking the fan and heatsink off?
 
Sorry, there is no way that I know of to tell without taking off the heatsink and fan. It's not hard to take them off though and you can't hurt the card if you do it right.
 
maybe ill check friday when my other parts come.
 
Here's the pics I told you I was going to post. Maybe you can pinpoint what I'm doing wrong. There's a front fan you can't see.

Front View

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Body View

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Funnel attachment that hovers over cpu and sends hot air right out the side vent.

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My heatsink and fan for my ATI radeon 9800 pro 128mb

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Another full body view

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So can anyone explain to me what I could possibly be doing so bad that's causing such high temps? 1 rear outtake, and one front intake. And the funnel that takes cpu hot air out. Also my enormous gfx card heatsink. Why is it so damn hot?!
 
I dont know. Take the funnel out and wait like an hour. Go back and get the temps again, see if they went lower or higher. Other wise it might just be the fact that you only have 2 fans. Maybe you could look for a new side panal for your pc that has a side fan? That would cool your stuff down, especially the video card.
 
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