Will there be such weapons in-game?

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Probably every of you 've seen those 2 guns in tech video demos of HL2
but i wanna know if both of them will be availible in final retail release, or that was only testing versions of ONE weapon

-1. Gravity gun
allow to catch things, use them as shield and throw @ some enemy
http://www.******/hl2/weapons/images/gravity.jpg

-2. Manipulator
allows remotely to move objects, using lighting ray
http://www.******/hl2/weapons/images/manipulator.jpg
 
um.....isnt that the same gun? it just had a primary fire, and a secondary one...
 
looks like the same gun to me. didnt gabe say there would be upgrades during the story of the game for that gun?
 
If it's gonna have upgrades then the weight it could lift should be one of these.
When you first get it you can only move small objects such as Boxes, wooden chairs, etc.
Then after a while you upgrade it and you could lift things such as full-sized humans, zombies, huge couchs, etc.
Then you can move some large objects such as cars, maybe those big Ant Lions, and other stuff
Finally towards the end of the game you get a major upgrade that lets you lift VERY heavy stuff like tanks or maybe even striders! Although that would be pushin it....
 
Then after a while you upgrade it and you could lift things such as full-sized humans, zombies, huge couchs, etc.
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AFAIK Gabe stated that you can't pick up enemies with it.
 
I think the ability to pull radiators off the wall and use them as shields/projectiles is pretty good for starters. Picking up enemies with it would take a lot of the fun out of the game. Mind you if you could pick them up and drop them off a tall building just for laughs...

MUHAHAHAHAHA!! *ahem*
 
I thought Gabe had said they were 2 different weapons.....they have different coloured beams....sorry if this is incorrect.


Taz
 
I'm sure I remember Gabe saying http://www.******/hl2/weapons/images/manipulator.jpg is an old version of the Manipulator.
 
If you can pick up dead bodies... why can't you pick up live ones?
Surely this goes against the 'everything has weight' physics system?

Or have they jusy decided on this as a design feature otherwise it'll make the game too easy?
 
just came to me, i think that most of my time playing half life, ill be ripping things off walls and shooting them at the enemies, probably using the manipulator more than the glock (or usp match in HL2) (oh, wonder where his trusty glock went?):D
 
Originally posted by pHATE1982
If you can pick up dead bodies... why can't you pick up live ones?
Surely this goes against the 'everything has weight' physics system?

Or have they jusy decided on this as a design feature otherwise it'll make the game too easy?
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id think so, but we'll never know until we play the game!



in guessing, the further you progress in the game, the more youll be able to pick up, like when your at the point like headcrabs or combines are merely stumps in your way, then you can pick em up, but if its your 1st time seeing an ant lion, then im guessing you cant pick it up...
 
Originally posted by pHATE1982
If you can pick up dead bodies... why can't you pick up live ones?
Surely this goes against the 'everything has weight' physics system?

Or have they jusy decided on this as a design feature otherwise it'll make the game too easy?
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I reckon because of their personal will, mainly because they might be shooting the hewll out of you and might damage/destroy the manipulator.
 
Wondering if you could catch bullets with that Gravity mode...
 
Originally posted by Saltpeter
Wondering if you could catch bullets with that Gravity mode...
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Not sure if that was a retorical question. But i'll answer it anyway:

Nope, as bullets dont exist in the physics engine (hitscan is used instead), meening there's nothing to 'grab' with the manipulator.
 
I was really looking forward to sneaking up behind a combine, picking him up above my head with the manipulator and twatting him against a wall....

:-(


edit: true bullet physics would be absolutally mad.... but COOL!!!! You could bounce bullets off things, as they'd have their own mass... imagine firring a smg into a steel plated room *drool* On the downside gravity would also effect the bullets, so u'd have to aim half an inch above the bad guys heads if they were any distance away from u. (Not fun)
 
A matrix mod could be cool though. Nice effects making bullet trails, bullet time. :)
 
Here was a good matrix mod for UT, back in the day. MonkeyMatrix or something...
 
Originally posted by Munro
I'm sure I remember Gabe saying http://www.******/hl2/weapons/images/manipulator.jpg is an old version of the Manipulator.
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True, true, true...
 
Gabe has stated that the two weapons are different. If you watch 'em in the E3 video you can notice that they function differently.
 
Originally posted by CrazyHarij
Gabe has stated that the two weapons are different. If you watch 'em in the E3 video you can notice that they function differently.
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Yeah, but the blue-ray (fishing pole or we) gun is an earlier build of the manipulator, and it will N-O-T be in the final release (but maybe in the sdk)
 
Originally posted by CrazyHarij
Gabe has stated that the two weapons are different. If you watch 'em in the E3 video you can notice that they function differently.
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Are you sure? I thought one function was primary, one eas secondary. If this isn't the case do you have a link anywhere?
 
first function might be magnetic, but i most like second function with blue-ray, where u can take any object and move it on distance... i'll be sad if this wont be included in game =(
 
Originally posted by SLH
Here was a good matrix mod for UT, back in the day. MonkeyMatrix or something...
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There's one for HL as well, called 'The Specialists'...
 
well i've been thinking about that manipulator without a blue laser... I presume u don't know if u can rotate things with it... i sure hope so... and i hope u can pick up things u can climb on and such... like then u could pick up a ladder that's on the ground.. rotate it so it would be climbable... and climb ur way upto wherever u want :)

EDIT: and btw i've tryed The Specialist... gameplay sucks as much as it can :p
 
The blue ray/beam weapon will not be in the game.
 
Nope. Only this thing http://www.******/hl2/weapons/images/gravity.jpg.
 
about beeing unable to pick up living enemies ... I think it's because it'll look crappy. The animations would be all messed up. But it won't take long untill someone will make a small mod to be able to do just that :D
 
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