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i think it would be absolutely worth it if you don't have a dx10 card, all you would get from a dx10 card is one or two games which actually use it, like crysis and ?Asus said:If I get a DX10 card I will buy it right away. If I don't have a DX10 card then I'm not sure if I'd buy it or not...probably not.
Fixeddestrukt said:i think it would be absolutely worth it if you don't have a dx10 card, all you would get from a dx10 card is one or two games which actually use it, like crysis and Halo 2
I'd say they have been improving over the years. I think 2000 and XP are far better than the others especially as far as stability goes while expanding compatibility with devices. I remember with even Win 98 I considered it stable at the time yet I couldn't leave the PC on for a fraction as long as I do with XP before I would have to restart the machine.Chrysalid said:I've had enough Microsoft with using Windows 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, Millenium Edition, 2000 and XP. And I'm tired of the endless crashing and general lameness. I have no reason to believe they are fixed in Vista...
Well ya see at this point I'm doing great with XP. That is probably where most poeple are sitting. And most of the features in Vista I think of as extras. But I'm in a spot where both my hardware (AGP) and my OS (XP) are going to start being outdated if I want to upgrade my GFX power. So when I upgrade my system and buy a DX10 card then I'll jump in with Vista as well for sure.destrukt said:i think it would be absolutely worth it if you don't have a dx10 card, all you would get from a dx10 card is one or two games which actually use it, like crysis and ?
vista will be more or less exactly the same without a dx10 capable card.
Peerguardian FTWChrysalid said:I'm not too anxious to let my PC upload data to Microsoft/US Government about whether I am a terrorist or not.
2000 and Xp crash? Didn't notice. Want to give some examples?2000 and XP. And I'm tired of the endless crashing and general lameness. I have no reason to believe they are fixed in Vista, so when it hits the stores I will convert my primary desktop PC to Linux (I have two Linux boxes already). I'm not too anxious to let my PC upload data to Microsoft/US Government about whether I am a terrorist or not.
sounds like a good plan.Asus said:Well ya see at this point I'm doing great with XP. That is probably where most poeple are sitting. And most of the features in Vista I think of as extras. But I'm in a spot where both my hardware (AGP) and my OS (XP) are going to start being outdated if I want to upgrade my GFX power. So when I upgrade my system and buy a DX10 card then I'll jump in with Vista as well for sure.
I might change my mind about those other features as 'extras' just like I did with Xp before I got it. Because I enjoy XPs 'extras' now. hehe
Kyo said:Bugger DX 10 and bugger Vista. Overall it's been the same damn thing except they rearranged the control panel to confuse us, and all those network settings are bloody ridiculous.
"Cannot rename local area connection 5 [Yes 5 after plugging into a second network] to local area connection, reason: already exists." Funny Vista I can't see it anywhere.
XP could have DX 10 but the're using it to push their next crappy product onto us [Halo 2 anyone?]. Frankly once XP support seems to die off I'm switching fully to Ubuntu or something similar it has everything I need.
honestly, if you guys are going to continue to make the same stupid posts, over and over again, just stay the hell out of the threads, lol. :stare:destrukt said:here is a post i made months ago and i've copied/pasted it countless times because of cynical/ignorant/clueless/ugly people.
-- i updated it a bit.
here are some of the new things in vista:
- aero [glass/express] is more then how it looks, but how it is coded/rendered (everything being a 3d object and so on, go do some research on avalon and other new api's) .. also includes things like flip 3d & live taskbar previews.
- security including new user account protection, bitdefender, ie7 (protected mode / new/better ssl support, addr bar showing on every window, greater phishing site detection and much more), parental controls, new/better firewall, full volume encryption, improved efs/smartcard support, new crypto tech, windows service hardening (all processes run with lowest-possible privileges & in isolation) & more.
- new/improved windows explorer .. it's just plain 10x better.
- new/improved start menu .. also just plain better.
- instant search including new virtual folder feature.
- new quality control process [ http://blogs.msdn.com/larryosterman/.../23/455193.asp ].
- new installer & deployment technology.
- new versions of bunbled apps + new bundled apps, like calender, new wmp, new mc, sidebar, gadgets and so on.
- better performance including superfetch, readyboost, new audio/network stack.
- vastly improved networking, in every way though the new ui may be confusing.
- new app platforms/apis including winfx, avalon, indigo, metro and so on.
- greater orgianisation including better ingeration of search, better and new use of metadata and so on.
- kernel is more or less rewritten.
- better kernel (things like heap/io has been addressed, which had some serious problems in xp) / user mode interaction, so driver problems/full system crashes are a thing of the past.
- dx10.
- new/better power options especially for mobility.
- new/better backup options.
- new/improved home user features; windows movie maker (can author dvds now), wmp 11 & media centre, windows photo gallery & so on.
- new/improved mobility features; sync centre, tablet pc & so on.
- new/improved business features; windows meeting space, more modular design & so on.
.. so, if you can say that it is just xp is dumbed down & whatever, i reserve the right to call you a freaking idiot/lemming.
the only things i won't be using are probably the mobility/power features as i have a macbook pro, so vista will be on my desktop though i'll probably end up installing it via bootcamp.