Woman perverts the course of justice by calling rape

[Absinthe]

Some of you are taking my opinion a little bit too hard.

I’m not shrugging my shoulders; it’s just there are a lot worse things happening where your attention should be on. You’re going on like this is the end of the world, it’s not.

If you want to do something to help the world, then adopt a kid from Ethiopia and donate money (which my parents have done). Or, go give blood at the Red Cross…

By the way, I never said what she did was "okay".. but that it's not anything to get worked up about.

-michele

Hypothetical: A 12 year old girl is raped and beaten by her father. At the same time, a bomb goes off in a city and kills over 60 people. In this situation, is the girl's rape any less of a tragedy?

The answer should be no. The significance of these happenings should not be relative to their context. Do worse thing take place in the world? Well, duh. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognize this woman's actions as low, dirty, and seriously threatening to a man's well-being.

If you don't care, fine. But please, get off your high horse and stop pretending you're more knowledgable about the ways of the world than we are.

 

[Absinthe]

It's funny, but regardless of how worked up you get, innocent guys will still go to jail.

Hey, not all the time... but shxt happens.

-michele

And that's not something to be angered by? What a callous existence you must live.

 

[michele]

Yes there are starving children in third world countries, and yes thats just as horrible or worse than whats going on here too. Point is, this thread was not intended to discuss the problem of starvation, it was about the perversion of the court of justice. If you're just going to change the subject, then make a new thread.

Every time a problem comes along and we just look at worse problems and shrug thing off, things will only get worse. Getting shot in the foot might not be as bad as being shot in the stomach but im still going to feel the pain.

I used the problem of starvation as a talking point to why I don’t consider this problem as something to get all worked up about… I didn't mean to change the subject, and if it seemed that way I'm sorry.

Hypothetical: A 12 year old girl is raped and beaten by her father. At the same time, a bomb goes off in a city and kills over 60 people. In this situation, is the girl's rape any less of a tragedy?

The answer should be no. The significance of these happenings should not be relative to their context. Do worse thing take place in the world? Well, duh. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognize this woman's actions as low, dirty, and seriously threatening to a man's well-being.

If you don't care, fine. But please, get off your high horse and stop pretending you're more knowledgable about the ways of the world than we are.

Both are a tragedy, but my focus would be on the 12 year old girl. Because there's nothing you can do for the 60 dead people, but a 12 year old girl deserves justice... and that is something to fight for.

If you're knowledgable about the ways of the world, then why are you getting so worked up over this?

What a callous existence you must live.

I guess that's supposed to be some kind of an insult, well put, it really brings out your true character while attempting to put down mine.

And just an FYI, you don't know me, and although we don't agree on this issue I'm not this horrible person you're trying to make me out to be.

-michele

 

[15357]

Both are a tragedy, but my focus would be on the 12 year old girl. Because there's nothing you can do for the 60 dead people, but a 12 year old girl deserves justice... and that is something to fight for.

And just an FYI, you don't know me, and although we don't agree on this issue I'm not this horrible person you're trying to make me out to be.

-michele

1. The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is just a stastistic -Stalin (One of my favorite qoutes, btw)


2. Now now, everybody can be attacked for anything that he/she says even when not in the politics forum.

 

[Feath]

I used the problem of starvation as a talking point to why I don’t consider this problem as something to get all worked up about… I didn't mean to change the subject, and if it seemed that way I'm sorry.

Well, I'll throw it right back at you? Why should we be concerned about sarvation when this guy was falsely accussed of rape. You can't just ignore something because something worse happens. This woman false. Can you not imagine how it feels? What about woman who have been raped but the police don't trust her because of cases like this? This is a serious issue. Yes, there are other problems, but that doesn't make this not matter. Do you think the judge said that:

"Oh well, you did wreck a guy's life just because you could but I saw a staving kid once so I won't punish you".

Both are a tragedy, but my focus would be on the 12 year old girl. Because there's nothing you can do for the 60 dead people, but a 12 year old girl deserves justice... and that is something to fight for.

If you're knowledgable about the ways of the world, then why are you getting so worked up over this?

You've completely misunderstood the point. The point is that the rape of the 12 year old girl is still horrible. Both events are horrible. Neither one affects the awfulness of the other.

I guess that's supposed to be some kind of an insult, well put, it really brings out your true character while attempting to put down mine.

And just an FYI, you don't know me, and although we don't agree on this issue I'm not this horrible person you're trying to make me out to be.

-michele

That wasn't an insult. So, please, don't act so wounded. It doesn't make your point more valid.

 

[SupremePain]

Now if the chick really did rape the guy, that would have been cool.

"No please don't, miss!"
"Shut the hell up"
"Rawr. You don't have to tell me twice, baby!"

 

[jondy]

Don't call me "kiddo"...

Then don't imply I need to get out more. Just returning the favour.

 

[Absinthe]

I used the problem of starvation as a talking point to why I don’t consider this problem as something to get all worked up about… I didn't mean to change the subject, and if it seemed that way I'm sorry.

Anger against this woman is not the same as getting worked up about it. Ever heard about people beating their pets? Abusing their children? Being savagely raped? Ever heard about mass murderers? People responsible for genocide in far-off places?

Do these things not prompt a negative response within you?

I do not dwell on this woman's actions. But I do find them to dirty and any anger it prompts from me is entirely justifiable. How would you like it if somebody accused you of rape for their screw-ups?

Both are a tragedy, but my focus would be on the 12 year old girl. Because there's nothing you can do for the 60 dead people, but a 12 year old girl deserves justice... and that is something to fight for.

And the man that's been accused of rape does not deserve justice?

Hey, Michele. You can't do anything about the 12 year old girl either. She doesn't affect you. You don't even know her. She has zero impact on your life. Shit happens. Why do you care at all?

Hopefully because you're human.

If you're knowledgable about the ways of the world, then why are you getting so worked up over this?

Displaying anger at an injustice is an entirely reasonable response. If everybody adopted your apathetic "Shit happens" reaction to the wrongdoings of the world, we'd be in a well sorry state indeed.

I guess that's supposed to be some kind of an insult, well put, it really brings out your true character while attempting to put down mine.

And just an FYI, you don't know me, and although we don't agree on this issue I'm not this horrible person you're trying to make me out to be.

It's only an insult if you want it to be. I am not trying to make you out to be a horrible person. I just find your down-playing of this incident to be naive.

 

[michele]

I'm done with this crap, I'm serious, it actually made me sick to my stomach and I don't even want to post here any longer...

But have no fear, oh righteous ones, I'm sure if you whine long enough about what happened to that guy it might actually help someone! OR! you could all continue to repeat the same shit over and over again like you have been!

Oh, and an insult is an insult, it doesn't make any difference what I want it to be. IF I said, "You're an idiot who contributes nothing to society" (Which the 'contibutes nothing to society' part is probably true lol)... and then said, "It's only an insult if you want it to be"... that would be moronic.

I bet not ONE of you has done ANYTHING to help that guy who was accused of rape. You all have done about as much as I have done: NOTHING. And guess what? each of you know you will continue to do NOTHING because there is NOTHING you can do.

Oh, and simply getting upset for him still doesn't help him, hopefully most of you are old enough to know that.

Take it easy.
-michele

 

[Lex Luthor]

I bet not ONE of you has done ANYTHING to help that guy who was accused of rape. You all have done about as much as I have done: NOTHING. And guess what? each of you know you will continue to do NOTHING because there is NOTHING you can do.

So your point is that all discussion must be followed by action? Do you not realize that discussion can also have many other useful purposes, such as entertainment, for example?

 

[Absinthe]

But have no fear, oh righteous ones, I'm sure if you whine long enough about what happened to that guy it might actually help someone! OR! you could all continue to repeat the same shit over and over again like you have been!

I see. Emotional responses have no place in this world unless they serve to some effect. Gotcha.

Oh, and an insult is an insult, it doesn't make any difference what I want it to be. IF I said, "You're an idiot who contributes nothing to society" (Which the 'contibutes nothing to society' part is probably true lol)... and then said, "It's only an insult if you want it to be"... that would be moronic.

Except I didn't call you an idiot. I said that you must live a callous existence, which in itself is not really insulting unless you choose to view it as such. And frankly, if you couldn't give a crap about the injustices in the world because they're not worth geting "worked up" over, then I think the term was used most aptly.

I bet not ONE of you has done ANYTHING to help that guy who was accused of rape. You all have done about as much as I have done: NOTHING. And guess what? each of you know you will continue to do NOTHING because there is NOTHING you can do.

Oh, and simply getting upset for him still doesn't help him, hopefully most of you are old enough to know that.

Yes, yes... So? My inability to take part in events across the globe somehow invalidates my feelings on them? What a ludicrous notion.

Sympathy. Empathy.

Look 'em up. And god forbid we actually discuss something on an internet forum! What a waste of potential action!

 

[Triggerhappy41]

I'm pretty glad she left. Her view of 'shit happens' was pissing me off. Its pretty f*cking dumb to think like that.