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I think i've just noticed something...all of the games seem to run significantly slower on steam, i tried playing CZ, but it actually skips, and i have NO problems running doom 3 FFS...
Is there any way to fix this, or is it just my comp (lol)
Radeon 9800 pro 128
512 DDR
55 gigs

I've even played HL1 off of steam, and it skips as well...WTF is with that?
 
It's your box. I have no problems playing anything off steam. I never have.
 
Are you letting them fully download before playing them? Sometimes Steam will say they are ready to play when they really arn't.

The fact that you download NS and TS fully before even installing them would explain why they work fine.
 
EDIT

i just re read your post, what i said has nothing to do with your problem, please ignore me :D
 
how can i check? I looked in properties and it says it's all 100% ready to go
Plus when i try the stress test, it says i have an average frame rate of 82.6...this is really worrying me, i spent 100 dollars on the gold version, and i don't want it to be screwed up :(
 
having only 512mb of ram would impact it, you will get hd trashing.

you did not list your cpu either so it's hard to make a informed reply.
 
no problems for me playing cs:s
and i have a 9800 pro
1 gig ddr
and a 2.53 p4

my only question is if i format my whole rig i should just be able to dl and instal steam and then re dl everthing right?
 
ATi cards also have a history of not working well with the older Valve games. I've never had this problem personally, but there are tons of resources out there. Just spend some time on Google.
 
o srry..
9800 pro 128 mb
2.4 gig proccesor (intel pentium 4)
512 mb ram (ddr)
55 gigs hard drive space
(not sure if this is relevant) Cable modem

I'll tell you more once i find out
 
Gotter said:
ATi cards also have a history of not working well with the older Valve games. I've never had this problem personally, but there are tons of resources out there. Just spend some time on Google.
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CS:S is not an older game...and it skips on that as well...
 
Then it is definitely something wrong with your machine. What? I don't know, try the Steampowered forums and see if anyone else is having the same problem.
 
sounds like hd trashing to me, I used to get it when I had 512mb of ram in games like BF 1942, upping to 1 gig did away with it.

Another possibility is that your HD is very fragmented, you made need to do a defrag.
 
you prob need to read that "guide" that ign did its on the hl2.net front page because your sys is close to mine (only 512 ram dif) so i would clean the whole thing spy bot, adaware, disk clean up , defrag, in that order and if that doesnt work read that guide front to back....
 
I had to experiment with different Video drivers, and for Counterstrike, wound up with the Catalyst 4.8 drivers which work the best for my 9800pro... Did you experiment with any of the other options like Vsync, AA, AF etc?? Your machine is plenty optimal for running what you have so far.. And no, 512 of RAM is plenty for this.. You're gonna have to experiment.. Now My problem is, Im having trouble finding drivers that like both, BF1942, and CS:S, So don't panic man, you'll figure it out...
 
Spaz_McNasty said:
you prob need to read that "guide" that ign did its on the hl2.net front page because your sys is close to mine (only 512 ram dif) so i would clean the whole thing spy bot, adaware, disk clean up , defrag, in that order and if that doesnt work read that guide front to back....
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I checked and deleted the spyware...disk cleaup?
 
JaegerMaster said:
I had to experiment with different Video drivers, and for Counterstrike, wound up with the Catalyst 4.8 drivers which work the best for my 9800pro... Did you experiment with any of the other options like Vsync, AA, AF etc?? Your machine is plenty optimal for running what you have so far.. And no, 512 of RAM is plenty for this.. You're gonna have to experiment.. Now My problem is, Im having trouble finding drivers that like both, BF1942, and CS:S, So don't panic man, you'll figure it out...
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512mb of ram is not plently for anything these days, it was fine for games 1+ year ago (most but not all, bf1942 being an example) but these days 1gig is becoming standard to not get "HD TRASHING"
 
If you're getting HD thrashing from any game and you have 512MB RAM, you have bigger problems then the amount of RAM you have.

I play modern games all the times with my lowly 512MB and it's more then fine.
 
When i say it skips, i mean once in a while, but it still is pretty annoying... I just tryed playing HL1, and it skips every couple of secs, but not by much...BUT IT'S HL1 FFS...
 
Gotter said:
If you're getting HD thrashing from any game and you have 512MB RAM, you have bigger problems then the amount of RAM you have.

I play modern games all the times with my lowly 512MB and it's more then fine.
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:LOL: the reason you get HD trashing when you have 512mb of ram is becuase you don't HAVE enough ram.
(there's no point trying to say otherwise, becuase thats the truth, if you try to argue otherwise you just show how much computer ilitterte you are)

For example, in BF 1942, I had 512mb of ram, Sure i could stick everything to high (in texture quality etc) and it would run great at 60+fps at times, but then it would "stutter" my fps didn't change, this is the game using the HD (thus trashing) becuase its using the pagefile on the hd as ram. So Id stick textures at medium etc and this did away with it (but I was losing out on image quality) So i uped to a gig did away with the stuttering while having everything at high.

And really there is zero point saying Im wrong becuase Im not, you are. Go to any hardware site and ask the same question they will say ram.
 
L337_Assasain said:
I have no problems playing doom 3...this is just F***ing rediculous...
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If you did up to a gig of ram Im 100% postive you would notice a diffrence in doom 3 to (you'd have to be blind not to notice) :thumbs:

It's like going from 56k to dsl or cable.

If all you have had is 56k, your generally happy with it. sure it may seem slow at times but your used to it so it doesn't phase you.

Get dsl use it for a week then try going back to 56k.

same as ram, if I pull out 512mb of ram out of my system and try and run doom3 at the same settings I do now (everything maxed)

I won't like it at all.
 
shapeshifter said:
If you did up to a gig of ram Im 100% postive you would notice a diffrence in doom 3 to (you'd have to be blind not to notice) :thumbs:

It's like going from 56k to dsl or cable.

If all you have had is 56k, your generally happy with it. sure it may seem slow at times but your used to it so it doesn't phase you.

Get dsl use it for a week then try going back to 56k.

same as ram, if I pull out 512mb of ram out of my system and try and run doom3 at the same settings I do now (everything maxed)

I won't like it at all.
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i run doom 3 everything maxed (no aa) at 1280 by 1024 and get about 40-60 fps

cs:s i have been getting about 60 and i am going to run defrag and clean up tonight will see if i have a diff
 
Spaz_McNasty said:
i run doom 3 everything maxed (no aa) at 1280 by 1024 and get about 40-60 fps

cs:s i have been getting about 60 and i am going to run defrag and clean up tonight will see if i have a diff
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ram effects fps only a bit, if you went to a gig youd notice mabye a 5fps increase, 10fps max. The benifit of ram is less stutering (which doesn't mean low fps, just hd trashing)
 
Is it possible that playing HL2 off of steam makes it slower than playing it off of a disk?
 
you shouldnt see a diff....or at least not that great of one...it maybe format time for you my friend
 
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