Would you believe in God if you were about to die?

[xcellerate]

i don't think it would work, because the whole idea in believing in God is that you believe in him because he is real, not because you're scared your going to hell and just want to get into heaven. It's for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Mr Stabby]

no, I have 100% confidence it's lies

 

[Zeus]

no I prefer to not waste my time with fanciful ideas that have 0 chance of coming true

yes...you know its not true how? you have died and come back?

 

[JNightshade]

I don't believe in god. I find all the solace and faith I need in things I've seen with my own eyes (nature, the earth, good will, et cetera).

 

[DeusExMachina]

Lincoln was definitely at least a Deist or spiritualist of some kind. Through his memoirs and friends, they made it pretty evident. And a cryptic quote he said leads me to believe he was more of a spiritualist than Deist. He and his wife often participated in seances (sp?).

Anyway, seeing as how I'm an agnostic spiritual mystic transcendalist...no I wouldn't believe in God if I were about to die. I still don't know if a supreme being like that even exists.

 

[CptStern]

yes...you know its not true how? you have died and come back?

no but billions have died and not one has come back ...that's pretty low odds is it not


but realistically ..just step out of your faith for a minute ..if the world is billions of years old and this solar system is even older and the galaxy is even older than that and so on ...if it takes up decades flying at the speed of light to reach the closest star how can we possibly say with any sort of certainty that our lives have any sort of meaning in the grander scale of things ..in terms of time mankind barely even registers as we've only been in existance and incredibly small fraction of the time ..my point is it's just the ego talking, it's the ego that wants to assuage itself by believing that our lives matter in the grander scheme of things ..but it just cant be ...billions of year, infinite space created just to house us? ..if you look it from that viewpoint the ONLY logical conclusion is that there is no afterlife, we are not the chosen ones, god isnt involved in our lives ....that it's just wishful thinking to give us solace during our darkest moments. Call me sad or whathave you but I prefer realistic

 

[Uriel]

Whenever people point at me and tell me how loopy I am that I believe in God, i just point them at my Church Leaders. Many of them are brilliant, intelligent people who have devoted much of their life to science. My religion believes very strongly that science and God are tied together. We have been commanded (asked) to learn as much as we can because we also believe that all we take to Heaven is our body and knowledge.

 

[OvA]

Yes, actually.

Sue me.

 

[DeusExMachina]

Whenever people point at me and tell me how loopy I am that I believe in God, i just point them at my Church Leaders. Many of them are brilliant, intelligent people who have devoted much of their life to science. My religion believes very strongly that science and God are tied together. We have been commanded (asked) to learn as much as we can because we also believe that all we take to Heaven is our body and knowledge.

That's good . I like intelligent church leaders. Matter of fact, most school priests are very intelligent and know a lot about what's going on in the world. I talked to a few once, they're very smart guys and respect my choice of being agnostic.

 

[short recoil]

No, i wouldn't believe in god as i was dying.
Wouldn't achieve anything.
I'd be concentrating on ways to try and stay alive, if i am still alive at that given point, if i can keep my status the same then i can stay alive, the only time i wouldn't do this is if i was commiting suicide for whatever reason.

If we go to heaven then so do toasters.

 

[Blackghost905]

No, i wouldn't believe in god as i was dying.
Wouldn't achieve anything.
I'd be concentrating on ways to try and stay alive, if i am still alive at that given point, if i can keep my status the same then i can stay alive, the only time i wouldn't do this is if i was commiting suicide for whatever reason.

If we go to heaven then so do toasters.

You never know. If you start praying to god before you die you might live. It has happned before

 

[GhostBoi]

I will not believe in a god until proof is given to me of one. When I am dying I am not suddenly going to convert out of fear.

 

[Axyon]

Absolutely not, there's no way I'd U-Turn on something I've always (not) believed (in).

 

[short recoil]

You never know. If you start praying to god before you die you might live. It has happned before

What?
How is praying to god going to keep you alive?
"please let me live god, please, pretty please"
"oh go on then"

You're best bet is to use your energy more wisely like concentrating on staying conscious or stopping blood loss etc.
If you have the "oh someone else will take care of me" thought you are going to end up dead for certain.

And when has it happened before?, i'm intriuged
Did you mean Someone has prayed to god whilst they thought they were going to die but survived?

 

[Blackghost905]

What?
How is praying to god going to keep you alive?
"please let me live god, please, pretty please"
"oh go on then"

You're best bet is to use your energy more wisely like concentrating on staying conscious or stopping blood loss etc.
If you have the "oh someone else will take care of me" thought you are going to end up dead for certain.

And when has it happened before?, i'm intriuged
Did you mean Someone has prayed to god whilst they thought they were going to die but survived?

well when I said that I put it in the wrong words, Someone CLAIMEDthey prayed when they were about ready to die and they saw men with white robes standing all around them and they said ''Please lord, dont let me die'' and he did not die so idk

 

[Absinthe]

I admit the possibility that in my dying years I will become scared, desparate, and irrational. So yes, I might very well start believing in God. I'm only human, after all.

 

[short recoil]

well when I said that I put it in the wrong words, Someone CLAIMEDthey prayed when they were about ready to die and they saw men with white robes standing all around them and they said ''Please lord, dont let me die'' and he did not die so idk

Yeah, when you hallucinate you tend to see what you want to see.
When i have been near death before i have seen and heard some very odd things, of course it's all a load of junk coming out of my malfunctioning brain that's about to die.

 

[MiccyNarc]

now you're just being asinine ..that example doesnt even remotely work because you and your friends dont follow a certain philosphy, their is no theology, no rules to adhere to no lifestyle to aspire to

They show absolutely no sign of being Christians. They twist Scripture to fit their own agenda (and yes, lots of Christian-in-name-only groups do the same). You can't take a lunatic fringe group and create a stereotype based on it and apply it to the whole group.

yes just like the discovery of fire eventually led to man landing on the moon ..not related in the least ..modern christianity has NOTHING to do with the protestant reformation

The beliefs and ideology are, for the most part, the same. Our beliefs are still based on the same text.

and I provided evidence of their ambiguity when it comes to identifying them as "christian" ..cept Lewis ..there's no denying he was christian

And you call me asinine? All of the above, with the exception of Lincoln (okay I'll give you that one), were Christians.
You asked for exemplary Christians, I gave them to you.

 

[Raziaar]

Well... with Stern's logic... KKK are representative of all christians, and Al-Qaeda are representative of all islam.

 

[MiccyNarc]

Well... with Stern's logic... KKK are representative of all christians, and Al-Qaeda are representative of all islam.

Exactly.
Stereotypes for the win.

 

[Glo-Boy]

There is a saying that goes "There are no atheists in a foxhole."

 

[MiccyNarc]

There is a saying that goes "There are no atheists in a foxhole."

Yes because Atheists are always anti-war

 

[AzzMan]

There is a saying that goes "There are no atheists in a foxhole."

There's another one that goes "The Earth is flat"


oh wait......:|

 

[Absinthe]

There is a saying that goes "There are no atheists in a foxhole."

And there are many atheists who are/were in the military who would readily challenge that.

 

[el Chi]

If I was God and someone repented on their death bed, I'd be pretty pissed off. I'd be there, standing next to St. Peter at the gates...
"Oh Lord, I done seen tha light!"
"Yeah, but only 'cause you were hedging your bets. Now piss off, you're not getting here on principle. Now this fella <Points to drunken womaniser> at least he was consistent in his atheism. Come on in mate. But YOU, nah it's limbo for you matey, whilst you think about what you've done. BAM, I cranked it up a notch"

 

[Raziaar]

If I was God and someone repented on their death bed, I'd be pretty pissed off. I'd be there, standing next to St. Peter at the gates...
"Oh Lord, I done seen tha light!"
"Yeah, but only 'cause you were hedging your bets. Now piss off, you're not getting here on principle. Now this fella <Points to drunken womaniser> at least he was consistent in his atheism. Come on in mate. But YOU, nah it's limbo for you matey, whilst you think about what you've done. BAM, I cranked it up a notch"

Okay Emeril Lagasse.

 

[OCybrManO]

Okay Emeril Lagasse.

Okay Mr. Icanrecognizeobviouspopculturereferences...

 

[el Chi]

Okay Emeril Lagasse.

Who?

/Google search
I'm a Portugese chef?

/Double-checks wikipedia
Erm... What?

 

[OCybrManO]

You said you checked wikipedia?

Emeril is known for his light and jovial hosting style as well as several catchphrases, including "Bam!", "Kick it up a notch", and "Oh yeah, babe," usually said before or after adding something spicy to a dish, or after the reaction to adding something (respectively).

 

[Raziaar]

Okay Mr. Icanrecognizeobviouspopculturereferences...

LMAO.

DUDE, I just made a thread in the tv/movies section about food network and my dislike for emeril. A few hours ago.

Of course i'm going to catch the reference! lol

 

[el Chi]

You said you checked wikipedia?

Emeril is known for his light and jovial hosting style as well as several catchphrases, including "Bam!", "Kick it up a notch", and "Oh yeah, babe," usually said before or after adding something spicy to a dish, or after the reaction to adding something (respectively).

Oooooh - I was referencing Elzar in Futurama.

 

[Raziaar]

Oooooh - I was referencing Elzar in Futurama.

Elzar is a parody of Emeril! LOL.

 

[el Chi]

Well there you go!
Here in fair Blighty, we don't have Emeil Wossisface. We have Gordon Ramsey who swears a lot; Jamie Oliver, who's ok but everyone seems to hate him; Gary Rhodes, who's a dick, but no-one cares about him anymore; Delia Smith, who's just stupid; Anthony Warrol-Thomson, who's a small ginger troll; and Ainsley Harriott, who I wouldn't brake for.

 

[Raziaar]

Jamie Oliver is here on the footnetwork. His show is alright I guess, but the camera work is crappy, and the food is kinda gross sometimes.

Not to mention, the show's name, "The Naked Chef" reminds me of a naked guy cooking food... and thinking of naked guys is not something I care for at all, much less when thinking about food.


But I digress.

 

[Beagle]

Is anyone here a Jehovah's witness

 

[CptStern]

Jamie Oliver is here on the footnetwork. His show is alright I guess, but the camera work is crappy, and the food is kinda gross sometimes.

Not to mention, the show's name, "The Naked Chef" reminds me of a naked guy cooking food... and thinking of naked guys is not something I care for at all, much less when thinking about food.


But I digress.

hehe there's something at work there that your not telling us raziaar


the naked chef refers to his style of cooking: pared down simple ingredients ..the kinda food you could make at home or at a 5 star restaurant ..I worked on one of Jamie Oliver's canadian campaigns a few years back ..nice guy

 

[Raziaar]

hehe there's something at work there that your not telling us raziaar

<laughs> No. Its just... well, what do you think when you hear, "Naked Chef"? I naturally break it down to its most basic elements... Naked... Chef.

<shudders>

 

[15357]

what the feck happened to theais thrad? it wen t fro m godd to naked chefss

 

[CR0M]

what the hell is a ▒ and are they expensive?

 

[MiccyNarc]

what the feck happened to theais thrad? it wen t fro m godd to naked chefss

Drunk be you?