Wow, a Fox News Conservative I just Gained Respect For

[ríomhaire]

Jesus f**king Christ do ye have any proper neutral news stations? Our news is run by the government and it's still neutral.

 

[Absinthe]

Good job putting 2 and 2 together moron. You completely missed where I said the post was a joke and just made yourself look dumb. Grats.

Your "joke" was little more than a pathetic cover-up for your extremism, moron.

If it was indeed a joke, it sucked. So good on that one as well.

 

[bliink]

Good job putting 2 and 2 together moron. You completely missed where I said the post was a joke and just made yourself look dumb. Grats.

Your "joke" was little more than a pathetic cover-up for your extremism, moron.

If it was indeed a joke, it sucked. So good on that one as well.

Stop calling each other morons. Else I shall smite thee.

 

[No Limit]

I take joy in knowing that more people are turning to FOX then shows run by people by Dan Rather.

Actually ratings seem to contradict that:

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/18/fox_news_in_ratings_free_fall.php

 

[Icarusintel]

Actually ratings seem to contradict that:

http://www.newshounds.us/2005/05/18/fox_news_in_ratings_free_fall.php

ummm.... as nice as it is you provided a source, I highly question its trustworthiness

 

[No Limit]

ummm.... as nice as it is you provided a source, I highly question its trustworthiness

I'm sure you do. Look up the nielsen ratings for those months and prove me wrong. I have no problem with you saying a source is baised if you can disprove what that source says. Here is a quick article that talks about the CNN vs Fox News batte which CNN is finally starting to win:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/television/cst-ftr-cnn02.html

In prime time from December to April, Fox News enjoyed a 51 percent share of total U.S. cable news viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research (CNN grabbed 26 percent, MSNBC 10 percent, CNN Headline News 8 percent and CNBC 4 percent). Fox News boasts all but one of the top 10 cable news shows. ''Larry King Live,'' with about 1 million viewers on average, is CNN's lone entry in the top 10.

But there have been gains since Klein took over: In April, the CNN prime time shows ''Paula Zahn Now'' and ''NewsNight With Aaron Brown'' delivered their best months since 2003. CNN topped Fox for two consecutive days during coverage of Pope John Paul II's death -- the first time CNN had come out on top in total viewers in more than a year.

Brad Adgate, a researcher at New York-based Horizon Media and a former CNN executive, believes that CNN remains the largest news brand worldwide but has been challenged for the past few years. ''They're still in a hole compared to Fox News, [but] certainly the one thing that CNN has going for it is that more people tune in to the network during a crisis than Fox News,'' Adgate says. ''Fox News has more core viewers, though.''

Sure, Fox still has huge control of the market; but that control is slowly decreasing; expecially in the demographic of the 18 - 40 years old (the only demographic that matters in media).

 

[Icarusintel]

I'm sure you do. Look up the nielsen ratings for those months and prove me wrong. I have no problem with you saying a source is baised if you can disprove what that source says. Here is a quick article that talks about the CNN vs Fox News batte which CNN is finally starting to win:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/television/cst-ftr-cnn02.html


Sure, Fox still has huge control of the market; but that control is slowly decreasing; expecially in the demographic of the 18 - 40 years old (the only demographic that matters in media).

i'm not saying your wrong, i'm just saying that something like the nielsen ratings would have been a better choice to prove this, since the source you had was clearly biased
if anything should be killing Fox News' ratings it should be the show Fox and Friends or w/e, that show is horrible and accomplishes nothing

 

[CptStern]

how anyone can watch fox"news" is beyond me ...you'd have to be seriously brainwashed to take their "news" reporting as fact ...and the political commentators are no better than the radio shock jocks: all piss and vinegar no substance or reliance on facts

 

[Icarusintel]

how anyone can watch fox"news" is beyond me ...you'd have to be seriously brainwashed to take their "news" reporting as fact ...and the political commentators are no better than the radio shock jocks: all piss and vinegar no substance or reliance on facts

depends on who you listen to on the radio, some have plenty of facts and use them well, which is better than tv in some respects, worse in others

 

[CptStern]

well admittedly I dont listen to teh radio program ...my limited exposure is from online feeds and fox"news" itself ...but they hardly live up to their ironic slogan "fair and balanced"


check out this humdinger of a whopping lie:


it just screams propaganda bullshit

 

[No Limit]

i'm not saying your wrong, i'm just saying that something like the nielsen ratings would have been a better choice to prove this, since the source you had was clearly biased
if anything should be killing Fox News' ratings it should be the show Fox and Friends or w/e, that show is horrible and accomplishes nothing

Well I would gladly post the nielsen ratings but I don't have a couple thousand dollars to access the report. We have to rely on media that do have this money to tell us what is in that report; what I posted being an example.

 

[Icarusintel]

Well I would gladly post the nielsen ratings but I don't have a couple thousand dollars to access the report. We have to rely on media that do have this money to tell us what is in that report; what I posted being an example.

very well then, you'd think they'd be online somewhere, what with all the stuff that gets leaked out from everywhere all the time

 

[No Limit]

well admittedly I dont listen to teh radio program ...my limited exposure is from online feeds and fox"news" itself ...but they hardly live up to their ironic slogan "fair and balanced"


check out this humdinger of a whopping lie:


it just screams propaganda bullshit

Wow, thanks for that, bookmarked. This is probably the most powerful example of their bullshit coming from their actual news, not pundits. But what do I know, I clearly hate freedom.

 

[No Limit]

very well then, you'd think they'd be online somewhere, what with all the stuff that gets leaked out from everywhere all the time

This stuff never gets online because of copyright issues. I'm sure its somewhere but its like finding an mp3 of a popular song on google; it will never happen. Here is their cheapest report available to the public which costs $250:

http://store.vnuemedia.com/nielsenm...rts&range_start=1&range_end=10&pattern_type=1

But I don't think you dispute the numbers so lets just leave it at that. I still agree Fox news still has a huge market share, I simply can't understand why.

 

[Icarusintel]

check out this humdinger of a whopping lie:

it just screams propaganda bullshit

I think one of the best parts of attending a military college is talking to actual enlisted people and officers, both of whom absolutely despised the Jessica Lynch thing and denounced it, saying the only good thing it was for was to help to up the amount of training soldiers recieve now and making sure they learn the basics and keep proficiency in them, other than that the whole crap with Jessica Lynch was nothing short of a media travesty, i loathed every second of it

Fox News has a large part of the share because people are tired of the other major networks, and Fox News is newer, i think that's part of the reason at least

 

[Korgoth]

Nolimit...osama is sitting next to me and we are watching the news. On top of that...liberal news condemns the war in Iraq, which the people of Iraq have gained freedom from.

Besides...my post was simply a joke since it was so extreme.

Ummm dude, in case you haven't noticed... The people of Iraq condem the Iraq war!!!!

 

[CptStern]

Wow, thanks for that, bookmarked. This is probably the most powerful example of their bullshit coming from their actual news, not pundits. But what do I know, I clearly hate freedom.

ya I love that crazy headline ...you'd think by now they would have taken it down:

"....Germany for treatment of two broken legs and bullet wounds reportedly suffered in a fierce gun battle she waged against her Iraqi captors"


the truth:

"Dr. Harith al-Houssona, a doctor in the Nasirya hospital, described Lynch's injuries as "a broken arm, a broken thigh, and a dislocated ankle." According to al-Houssona, there was no sign of gunshot or stab wounds, and Lynch's injuries were consistent with those that would be suffered in a car accident. Al-Houssona's claims were later confirmed in a U.S. Army report leaked on July 10, 2003"




btw ....I've always suspected you're a freedom hating commie No Limit ... from one freedom hating commie to another: :cheers:

 

[CptStern]

I think one of the best parts of attending a military college is talking to actual enlisted people and officers, both of whom absolutely despised the Jessica Lynch thing and denounced it, saying the only good thing it was for was to help to up the amount of training soldiers recieve now and making sure they learn the basics and keep proficiency in them, other than that the whole crap with Jessica Lynch was nothing short of a media travesty, i loathed every second of it

Fox News has a large part of the share because people are tired of the other major networks, and Fox News is newer, i think that's part of the reason at least

but you have no qualms that your government used lynch as a PR tool ..even going so far as to manufacture that whole "rescue" which just happened to be caught on video for freedom loving americans to see? ...isnt that the sort of things you've long accused your enemies of doing? ...propoganda bullshit?

 

[Icarusintel]

but you have no qualms that your government used lynch as a PR tool ..even going so far as to manufacture that whole "rescue" which just happened to be caught on video for freedom loving americans to see? ...isnt that the sort of things you've long accused your enemies of doing? ...propoganda bullshit?

tbh i was hoping she had died... it would have spared everyone the bullshit that came after they found her

 

[seinfeldrules]

CNN topped Fox for two consecutive days during coverage of Pope John Paul II's death -- the first time CNN had come out on top in total viewers in more than a year.

Go celebrate in the streets! CNN had more viewers for 0.00547945% of the year


PS It doesnt take much research (from an unbiased source) to find the details on FOX New's success.

FOX News currently leads the cable news market, earning higher ratings than its chief competitors CNN and MSNBC combined by average viewership. Measured by unique viewers, however, Fox is bested by CNN which, during the election season, earned 11% greater numbers of individual P2+ viewers.

In 2004, the perceived gain in ratings began to become more apparent. Coverage of the Democratic National Convention in Boston ranked higher in the ratings than its two closest cable competitors combined. In September, FOX News Channel's ratings for its broadcast of the Republican National Convention beat those of all three broadcast networks. During President Bush's address, FOX News notched 7.3 million viewers nationally, while NBC, CBS, and ABC scored ratings of 5.9, 5.0, and 5.1, respectively.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOX_News

 

[CptStern]

tbh i was hoping she had died... it would have spared everyone the bullshit that came after they found her

boy what a humanitarian you are ...how is it lynch's fault the government decided to fabricate everything from the method of capture to the rescue?

 

[No Limit]

Go celebrate in the streets! CNN had more viewers for 0.00547945% of the year

I am celebrating, that means that the religious crowd (largely Bush voters) turned to CNN for more accurate reporting. Also, CNN slaughters Fox news in online traffic. Sure, Fox isn't in the hole yet but don't be so sure that it will never happen. Bill O'Reilly as an example went from 3 million viewers before his sex scandal to about 1.5 million today; a trend similar to other Fox News shows in prime time. And come on Seinfeld, are you going to try and argue that Fox news is more accurate than other networks? Please say yes, I've been dying to have that debate on here for a while.

PS It doesnt take much research (from an unbiased source) to find the details on FOX New's success.

No it doesn't and nobody is denying how successful Fox News is. However, your soruce doesn't address how many viewers they have lost since last year.

From your own source:

Measured by unique viewers, however, Fox is bested by CNN which, during the election season, earned 11% greater numbers of individual P2+ viewers.

Meaning CNN has more viewers; Fox News viewers are simply more loyal (or more extreme depending on how you look at it).

 

[Icarusintel]

boy what a humanitarian you are ...how is it lynch's fault the government decided to fabricate everything from the method of capture to the rescue?

well, isn't death the simplest solution?

 

[No Limit]

well, isn't death the simplest solution?

I have to ask, what the hell are you talking about? Are you saying it would have been better for her to be killed? I really hope I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.

 

[CptStern]

well, isn't death the simplest solution?

no, wouldnt not lying be the simplest solution?


I dont get you right-wing nutbars ...it seems I care more about americans than you do ...it's like only a certain kind of american is worth saving: white conservative male

 

[Icarusintel]

I have to ask, what the hell are you talking about? Are you saying it would have been better for her to be killed? I really hope I'm misunderstanding what you are saying.

i was kidding, i'm still just sad it happened the way it did

as a white, semi-conservative male i do tend to care about myself a lot (but isn't that just human nature?), but i also care about my liberal girlfriend

 

[CptStern]

i was kidding, i'm still just sad it happened the way it did

as a white, semi-conservative male i do tend to care about myself a lot (but isn't that just human nature?), but i also care about my liberal girlfriend

the only reason it happened was because the government made it happen

 

[Lemonking]

is their a live feed of FOX NEWS?

 

[seinfeldrules]

Meaning CNN has more viewers

More unique viewers. Meaning those that dont tune in all the time.

 

[No Limit]

More unique viewers. Meaning those that dont tune in all the time.

Meaning more people watch CNN. This might not be better business wise but that still means more people get their information from CNN than Fox.

 

[MjM]

With respect to the clip.

Yay for informed people.

 

[seinfeldrules]

Meaning more people watch CNN.

Did you completely ignore everything in that article? FOXNews has more viewers than all the other cable news networks combined. Even on the night of the DNC. That article was updated very recently by the way. People just love to pick on FOXNews because of the perceived Conservative bias. I'm sure if the tech savvy liberal crowd looked at closely at the networks, that they consequently agree with more often, there would be far more RatherGate situations (which is far more serious than anything FOX has done, Rather attempted to alter the election single handedly.) The thing is, the elitist media will soon be pushed out because the US population is wising up. It was all exposed in a book written in the last year or two by someone with an 'in', his name was Goldberg I think. The book was called Bias.

 

[MjM]

Is CNN cable?

 

[diluted]

Is CNN cable?

Cable News Network

 

[Glirk Dient]

Is CNN cable?

It's the communist news network, and communists only run TV on cable.

 

[No Limit]

Did you completely ignore everything in that article?

No, you ignored what I said. I admitted that they have far more viewers which is better for their business. But more people (unique people) watch CNN than Fox which means more people watch CNN than Fox. I don't know what part of that you don't understand.

FOXNews has more viewers than all the other cable news networks combined. Even on the night of the DNC. That article was updated very recently by the way.

Nobody is disputing that.

People just love to pick on FOXNews because of the perceived Conservative bias.

Are you kidding? Please tell me you are kidding. Come on seinfeld, I think even you could admit that Fox news is there to pander to the right. Next you are going to tell me Bill O'Reilly is really what he claims, an independent. :rolling:

I'm sure if the tech savvy liberal crowd looked at closely at the networks, that they consequently agree with more often, there would be far more RatherGate situations (which is far more serious than anything FOX has done, Rather attempted to alter the election single handedly.)

What Rather did was bad, just a little worse than this:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200502040010

Fox's news anchor (exact same title as Rather had for CBS) altered history by regrouping what FDR said to back a Republican agenda. The difference here is in CBS 5 people lost their jobs and Rather resigned after he apologized; Hume didn't even apologize. But let me guess, mediamatters is too liberal of a source :rolling:.

The thing is, the elitist media will soon be pushed out because the US population is wising up. It was all exposed in a book written in the last year or two by someone with an 'in', his name was Goldberg I think. The book was called Bias.

I sure hope people will be getting information from elsewhere; but I don't think it will happen any time soon.

 

[Lemonking]

LOL Glirk you remind me of my dads behaviour.......calling everyone a commie that doesnt have the same opinion^^

 

[No Limit]

It's the communist news network, and communists only run TV on cable.

I still don't think you have been able to document one lie from CNN. I'm dying for some examples of this communist agenda. Or is this another one of your attempts at "humor"?

 

[Glirk Dient]

I still don't think you have been able to document one lie from CNN. I'm dying for some examples of this communist agenda. Or is this another one of your attempts at "humor"?

I would say it's humor...as I don't believe I have ever heard a lie on CNN since I never watch it, or really any news for that matter.

 

[No Limit]

I would say it's humor...as I don't believe I have ever heard a lie on CNN since I never watch it, or really any news for that matter.

Okay, so you never heard anything from CNN yet you slander them with every post you make? That makes a lot of sense (well, if you are a Republican).