X06: (XBox 360 Versions) Half-Life 2 and Portal Impressions + holy shit the price....

Warbie said:
What complete and utter crap ;)

You could spend double that and still have a pc which lacks the power of a 360.
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No mate, check out the prices on the net, not utter crap at all.
 
Warbie said:
To keep up with pc gaming, to play with decent settings at a good frame rate, you have to upgrade every two or three years (often more frequently), each time spending more than the price of a new console. I'd say it's cheaper to buy each console of any given generation than to keep up with the hardware the latest pc games demand.

And before someone says, 'well i'm still gaming on a P3', that's fair enough, but it completely negates the 'pc games will look better in a year' argument.



You're right about mods - not that that bothers me, there are so many good games around these days that I don't have time for mods. Updates and patches can also now be delivered to consoles (see Xbox Live). Unlike the pc, this is rarely needed. Console games aren't nearly as 'glitchy' and don't suffer from the 'critical problems' that quite often plague pc releases.



Keep trying to convince yourself :rolleyes:



Sure, but at a price. Technology also doesn't equal better games.



Each time it 'evolves' you need to open your wallet again. And what does that get you - 90% of the time exactly the same games from the limited no. of genre that you were playing before.

Games on the 360/PS3 will also look considerably better in a year or two - just as with every console, developers learn to get more out of the hardware over time. First generation games always look quite poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd. If anything, I noticed more of an improvement between the first and last games on the N64 and PSX than with the new gfx card for my pc.



They can run a little warm, as can any hardware. Mine has never crashed, and certainly not as often as your average pc.

I'm not saying consoles are better btw, I just felt the need to replay to your :rolling: post.



Nope. MS made the decision not to allow the use of a mouse for gaming on the 360 and are sticking with it.

It really isn't so bad using a pad. Infact, some fps (usually slower paced ones) work better than with a mouse and keybaord.
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Dear Warbie,

*pointless console bashing and PC ego-pumping*

From Jintor. ^ ^


Seriously, this feels like betrayal. BETRAYAL I TELLS YOU. *punts barrel at Valve*
 
:)

I start with good intentions, meaning to let each anti console comment slide. But gradually my fingers become claws, my teath begin to grind, and before you can say Halo sucks, i've bashed out a lengthy post.
 
Jintor said:
Seriously, this feels like betrayal. BETRAYAL I TELLS YOU. *punts barrel at Valve*
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Totally agree. *places the blue portal above the the hottest boiler in hell and red portal under valve*
 
I know you love consoles, Warbie. And I love them too! But I love PC's more, for no real reason! RAAWWWWRRR! *grows claws and fur and launches himself at Warbie*

I have no technical reason for this hatred. I just don't like consoles as much as I do PCs!

(btw Halo sux) :p
 
Aaaaarrrrrggghhh! My Halo radar is blinking.

Soothing breaths, soothing breaths ....
 
The console vs. PC argument is one of the most stupid arguments ever.
 
Horrible lighting engine, repetative level design, uninspired weaponry, cliched cliffhanger ending... the list goes on, and on, and on...

It did have Sarge and different speeches on different difficulty levels, though. That was pretty cool. "Usually the good lord works in mysterious ways! BUT NOT TODAY! This is 10 tonnes of armour-plated, HE-spewing, Di-vine intervention! If god is love, you can call me cupid!"
 
*feels the claw begin to take shape*
 
If you guys wish to know the real reason for my dark n' deep hatred for console's is simple.....

The reason is too many games are made for the console's & not for the PC, the PC's self of games at EB games & gamestop is way too small. It is really annoying, there is barely anygames for the PC.

Consoles are overrated beyond expectations, & also I believe ID is'nt making anymore games for the PC or is that Infinity ward? They are going away from their roots!!!!!!!!

I hope valve never forget their roots.


Also listen to me carefully, The real reason why EP2 is delayed is because of the stupid consoles (even though it was typical of Valve to delay it) They are working to get them all out once at the same time & at the same platforms.


I wish they first concentrated on making a PC release, then work on a Xbox 360 & PS3 release later.
 
for me
consoles
+ no hacking
+ no bugs
+ no upgrading
+ price
- can't do multiplayer
- controls
- child orientated
 
Warbie said:
Maybe. I'd still rate the gpu in a 360 over a x1900xt. It will also last a good time longer.
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Yeah...but...Um...I can warm my feet on the tower under my desk when it gets cold in the winter.

Ner. :)
 
IMO arguing over consoles/PC dominacnce is the most idiodic thing since religion. The fact is it doesn't matter. Would rather have Halo 3 with uber graphics or HL2 with normal graphics. I know which one I'd pick. Its about the game not the graphics. I personally am getting it on both; PC for mods, 360 becuase I can paly it on higher graphics than my-just-above-average PC.
 
KaMaKaZi-BLiTz said:
Also listen to me carefully, The real reason why EP2 is delayed is because of the stupid consoles (even though it was typical of Valve to delay it) They are working to get them all out once at the same time & at the same platforms.
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Bullshit. They said it was just typical Valve aggressive marketing.
 
SPARTACVS said:
On a Celeron/Pentium III hybrid with a GeForce 4? I'd like to see you do better.
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That's true, I don't think I've ever seen an XBox game with lighting that wasn't either overly dark or overly bright. Wait... was any Thief game released on XBox? Bah. Psychonauts had the right idea.
 
PC's may be more expensive, but I pay €40 for a PC game and €50-55 for an Xbox 360 game and the site I order my games off is pretty cheap (www.gcshop.nl). And that price will be even higher on a PS3.

I remember buying Perfect Dark for the N64 for like €90, that was insane.
 
$kelet0r said:
for me
consoles
+ no hacking
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Believe it or not people actually have ways to cheat in Halo. There is one thing you can do that will lag the crap out of everyone else playing.

+ no bugs
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WTF? I've experienced many many bugs in console games, and there are no patches!

+ no upgrading
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I assume you mean upgrading the system but I will say that a map pack was released for Halo 2.

+ price
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Don't they cost the same as PC games?

- can't do multiplayer
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What the hell are you talking about? Not only do many consoles offer online mulitplayer but you can play a game against someone else who's in the same room without having to have 2 consoles and 2 copies of the game.

- controls
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Not really anything I can say.

- child orientated
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What? Explain to me how Silent Hill (to name just one console game) was child orientated.
 
Becides the controlls & whatnot, the main thing for me was you have to pay additional for multuplayer online, to have multuplayer it come's at a price.


You have to get 12 months membership thingy. Why should i pay 2x (already paying for a broadband connection & now a membership?)


I love what I have & I am thankful for it.
 
WTF? I've experienced many many bugs in console games, and there are no patches!
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Bungie has released a patch for Halo 2 over Xbox Live that stopped the dummy glitch, greatly reduced the pistol's power, etc. Console games are just a bit harder to patch than PC games.
 
Mmmm. I still don't trust console online networks. Not sure why... Inherent distrust, i guess.
 
GT posted a video from X06's presentation of Half-Life 2 on X360. It's in HD and you can download it. :)
 
Don't they cost the same as PC games?
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PC games are cheaper than console games but the consoles themselves are cheaper than PCs (also there is the cost for upgrading frequently if you want to have a high end PC).
 
ríomhaire said:
Believe it or not people actually have ways to cheat in Halo. There is one thing you can do that will lag the crap out of everyone else playing.
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But that still isn't hacking, hehe.

ríomhaire said:
WTF? I've experienced many many bugs in console games, and there are no patches!
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There will be if the developer is arsed to do it.

ríomhaire said:
I assume you mean upgrading the system but I will say that a map pack was released for Halo 2.
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He meant that you don't have to upgrade your console constantly unlike a PC, and can still keep up with recent games.

ríomhaire said:
Don't they cost the same as PC games?
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Console costs less than PC and upgrading it.

ríomhaire said:
What the hell are you talking about? Not only do many consoles offer online mulitplayer but you can play a game against someone else who's in the same room without having to have 2 consoles and 2 copies of the game.
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Yeah, true.

ríomhaire said:
Not really anything I can say.
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Also true.

ríomhaire said:
What? Explain to me how Silent Hill (to name just one console game) was child orientated.
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The console itself is designed more for children than for hardcore gamers. And there are plenty of children games on next-gen consoles, so don't forget that. :p
 
While consoles are primarly child-oriented they are beginning - or have begun, or are half-way through, etc, etc - to show massive adult roots and tendancies. I mean, Silent Hill, *somethingsomething*:Eternal Darkness, etc, Final Fantasy series. Gaming is for everyone nowdays, whether it be on console or PC.

And it's not like child orientated is a negative. Well, maybe in terms of sales - look at Psychonauts, commercial disaster despite praise from almost all reviewing outlets. Why? Art style looked "Childish". Damn gaming public, you can't trust them an inch.
 
Jintor said:
Mmmm. I still don't trust console online networks. Not sure why... Inherent distrust, i guess.
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I don't know what you're talking about. I trust playing on Xbox Live about 100x more than the ****in internet on a PC.
 
I'm talking about something in the bone.
 
Why is Valve doing this? Yea its great for the people and Valve really pwns but...i dont understand how this will help them economicly in the future. They deserve more money from 5 games. I mean...price of 1 game for 5 games is just weird, they are just giving out games for free basicly. They loose money on this that could have gone into making better games.
 
Or is it a clever move? Many peole haven't played a HL, or have much of an idea what HL2 offers. We all came to HL2 completely hyped and knowing more was to come - to many console owners it'll be just another good looking game in a sea of others. Released on it's own, HL2 on the 360 it could quite easily be picked up and forgotten, as it was on the Xbox. Give people an uber package like this and i'll be suprised if it doesn't both sell like hot cakes and spawn a new generation of Valve fans, chomping at the bit for the next installment.
 
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