Your experiences with F.E.A.R's AI!

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So far we have this from another thread.

AmishSlayer said:
I'm actually having more troubles with the AI now than in the beginning. I just went through a fight were I got my ASS KICKED. One guy sat in the back peeking around a corner taking pot shots at me whenever I appeared. Two other guys were in a lobby-like area, one had moved a couch for cover and the other was using a pillar on the other side. The area was set up so whenever I wanted to engage one of them, all of them had a shot at me NOT TO MENTION the lights were cut by a 4th soldier. I had already used all my plasma rifle shots on a badass armor guy, all my grenades were gone from a heavy armor guy with a plasma rifle and all I was left with the assault rifles and shotgun. That fight took some work. After I beat those guys the 4th soldier came out with a shotgun when I didn't expect him and I got blasted.

The second time I went through the fight they used different cover so I could engage the sniping guy easier while only being shot at by one of the other guys in the lobby..
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AmishSlayer said:
I've noticed that too.

Another thing that was crazy where the AI really got me good. I was hiding behind an office wall that had 2 full length windows. I was hiding between them reloading and getting some slowmo back. A soldier dove through the window in front of me. I killed him with a pointblank shotgun shot but and start to turn around letting myself come out of slowmo only to find another soldier that came through the other window about to blast me with his shotgun.

me = :x
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One of the things that really got me was, when i used slowmo in a open area, lots of guys. Battling it out. Just when i think i got cover, killed a few guys, i stop my slowmo just to hear a guy flacking me last sec. Not only that i kill him turn around and see another guy crouching behind a wall taking peek shots at me.

Post away!
 
a soldier slipped me a roofie and raped me. now that's what I call good AI.
 
There were 2 soldiers. One above me on a catwalk, and one I saw previously that got away. Well, I couldn't tell where he went, so I decided to get in position to take out the one on the cat walk. As I was walking, the one on the catwalk just started shooting at me. He couldn't even come close to hitting me. So I popped around the corner, and shot him down. But before he dropped..the OTHER soldier decided to run around the corner and start beating me with the rear of his gun. Jerk.
 
Well as I already said in the other thread, It feels bad killing the soldiers when they shout for help and flee in panic :(
But anyway, ive got some nice situations with the AI. It definately need alot of space to really get into it's rights, its hard to do any amazing manouvers in a tight corridor. One that really got me was in the beginning of the game, im in a large yard with train cars, and there's about 6 soldiers coming from the door. Two crouch behind barrels and suppress me. I, getting pissed from the HP loss, decide to just fckit and go in with guns blazing. Sure enough, I get the first two aimers, but then I see a soldier in a room left of me. I quickly sprint my way there and lay ninja smackdown on his ass. This point I had already forgotten about the 3 other soldiers, which had flanked behind me and then followed me silently. Now I got three ****ing nades into the small room with only one exit, and ofcourse I try to bail out. No banana, two shotgunners blast me to hell :(
That was some nice ambushing.
But shit, now im late from class.
 
minerva showed how good halflife 2 ai can be - pity the original game cant compare ai wise to fear
 
shouldn't need to show good it is, should come in natural instances like fear ;)
 
I can sum up fears A.I. in 1 word.

Predictable.
 
^Ben said:
I can sum up fears A.I. in 1 word.

Predictable.
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Wow we have to have a hater in every thread.

Name one game with better ai?

Point is even if F.E.A.R ai is predictable which i really dont see how it is. Name a game with better ai?

Stop taking away from F.E.A.R when you have no point to set. You have no argument. Its the best ai NOW in half a year it might look like shit. I mean look at FarCry, back when that came out the ai was amazing, now its nothing compared to F.E.A.R.

I know waht you mean by predictable but does it matter when it can happen so many different ways? They cancel each other out for the good.
 
So if theres nothing better it automatically means it's amazing?

Erm no. I'm not comparing fears A.I. with another game, the AI is just predictable in every way.

The enviroments got set up so it's easy for them to look smart with the minimal amount of work(wow large squares!) No A.I. in any game has impressed me yet.
 
^Ben said:
So if theres nothing better it automatically means it's amazing?

Erm no. I'm not comparing fears A.I. with another game, the AI is just predictable in every way.

The enviroments got set up so it's easy for them to look smart with the minimal amount of work(wow large squares!) No A.I. in any game has impressed me yet.
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WOW. I can't wait to see the AI in your game....:rolleyes:
 
Ai Is pretty sweet . One problem though i was just about to come around a corner (having seen anyone yet) One guy screams HE'S BEHIND THAT PIPE!!! Yes i was hiding behind that pipe but theres no way in heck anyone saw me yet??? unless he saw my gun tip whitch would make the game cool :)
 
far cry's ai was excellent in 2003 - i mean npcs that could flank and use cover and retreated and coordinated as a team was damn near revolutionary
 
^Ben said:
So if theres nothing better it automatically means it's amazing?

Erm no. I'm not comparing fears A.I. with another game, the AI is just predictable in every way.

The enviroments got set up so it's easy for them to look smart with the minimal amount of work(wow large squares!) No A.I. in any game has impressed me yet.
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Of course it's predictable, it's scripted to do only certain things. No A.I. is ever going to think like an actual human and improvise, so shut up and enjoy the well-made A.I. in this game.

Anyway, I thought the A.I. was fairly average in the demo, but it never really had that many instances to impress then. After playing the full game for a bit, it really is bloody amazing.

Firefights are very fun and very tense - my favourite instance of this is early on in the game at the section where the game tells you how to use SloMo (of course, by this point everyone's been using it non-stop, heh). About 6-8 guards filter into the area and I took some cover behind a crate that's off-centre to the courtyard. This would prove to be a slow battle, as everyone took some cover and fired shots when they could. A couple of guards started to flank me behind some trailers to my left, all I could do was take potshots at their feet which proved ineffective. They round the corner and start putting some heat on me, so I return fire. The other guards notice my distaction and hit me with grenades and move to my immediate right-hand side. I take a couple down and realise that I'd lose this battle unless I retreat sharpish. I round the corner and take cover behind a dumpster, not noticing that one guard had entered the building ahead and was moving round to behind my position. He creeps up and clubs me, and that's the end of me. Wow.

This game absolutely needs to be played on Hard or above. The firefights are intense, as only a couple of shots kill you. Cover really comes into play.
 
Griz said:
WOW. I can't wait to see the AI in your game....:rolleyes:
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Lame comeback.

So when I go to you when your working in mcdonalds and say "this hamburger sucks." Are you going to point me towards the kitchen and say "i cant wait to see yours"

That's just a cop out.
 
^Ben said:
Lame comeback.

So when I go to you when your working in mcdonalds and say "this hamburger sucks." Are you going to point me towards the kitchen and say "i cant wait to see yours"

That's just a cop out.
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You have the worst arguments ever
 
Axyon said:
Of course it's predictable, it's scripted to do only certain things. No A.I. is ever going to think like an actual human and improvise, so shut up and enjoy the well-made A.I. in this game.
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[SARCASM]Oh sorry, I forgot i'm not allowed to have an opinion about anything, silly me.[/SARCASM]

far cry's ai was excellent in 2003 - i mean npcs that could flank and use cover and retreated and coordinated as a team was damn near revolutionary
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HL1
 
^Ben said:
[SARCASM]Oh sorry, I forgot i'm not allowed to have an opinion about anything, silly me.[/SARCASM]
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But we're allowed to challenge it, like it or not. :p
 
You can have an opinion, it's just nice if you wouldn't show it in such an arrogant and idiotic way. Oh, and don't double-post.
 
you are comparing the god awful (although again revolutionary in 1998) ai of hl with far cry's opus
you probably think that hl1 ai is also better than hl2s in which hcase please do not contribute to this thread any further
 
^Ben said:
Thanks for that contribution to the internet.
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Thank you

It seems like you're just arguing for argument's sake. You admit that the AI in fear is better than in other games, and yet you still say it sucks? What are you doing on a Half-Life 2 site? Or any FPS site for that matter? Because if the AI in fear sucks, than you must absolutely hate the firefights other games. I really don't understand your logic.
 
How is it arrogant and idiotic? Everything I have said is true.

And can you please not bait me in an arrogant and idiotic way please.

And Kage, if you read his post and then you read my post it would make perfect sense, he said I should "sit down and shut up" I think fear overall was a poor game, if you just want a massive circle jerk thread make it private.

Ionize, I have said that the A.I. in games has never "impressed me" that does not mean I did not find the firefights in some games fun. Big difference.

John, I want specific examples on how HL1 is different from farcry, they both use flanking and squad tactics.
 
Stop arguing, kids.

I think I'm going to buy this game :thumbs:
 
i've found the A.I. very surprising, myself. Also, Ben, if you didn't like the A.I. in FEAR then just don't buy the game. Maybe FEAR 2 will have much better AI that you will enjoy. You see, that is how I "vote" for gmaes, I buy them. Can you argue that Half Life 2 has sold so many units, or for that matter Counter-Strike? (if you want some A.I. in that game, it's one of the best.. playing against real human beings!) So go and buy CS:S. That will probably satisfy your hunger for better A.I.
 
^Ben said:
How is it arrogant and idiotic? Everything I have said is true.

And can you please not bait me in an arrogant and idiotic way please.

And Kage, if you read his post and then you read my post it would make perfect sense, he said I should "sit down and shut up" I think fear overall was a poor game, if you just want a massive circle jerk thread make it private.

Ionize, I have said that the A.I. in games has never "impressed me" that does not mean I did not find the firefights in some games fun. Big difference.

John, I want specific examples on how HL1 is different from farcry, they both use flanking and squad tactics.
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Plz just stop posting in this thread. As you can tell your the only one posting here who doesnt like the game. If you dont like it why post in a FAN thread? Why ruin the thread with your negative and incorrect comments? If you have nothing to contribute to the thread why post? Make a site on how much you hate fear if your so hot about flaming it. NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR YOUR NEGATIVE SHIT! So please dont post here. That goes for everyone like him.

You can voice your opinion, but do it in a way where it wont start hate or a argument.

Thinking about it now you shouldnt have posted here in the 1st place. This thread is for people who played the game and have experienced the ai. If you want to post on how much you hate the game then post in the reviews thread. Dont ruin this one.

/end rant
 
Wow, nice thread derailment....

Looks like I'll be needing to upgrade, new Motherboard, CPU and Graphics card...
 
I don't have fear yet. but I'm sorry to say that the best A.I I've seen is the Halo series. Some of you will disagree but I thought the games had good A.I. and I'm sorry to say that even Half-life 2 was a great game, the A.I doesn't beat some other games I've seen.
 
Anyone beat it yet?
I beat it in around 8 hours.

The very end has a nice bang to it, and also wait untill the credits are done, there stuff after words. : p

-NSF
 
Man, this game is so sweet. I love the AI and whatnot, but it seems pretty... easy. I'm playing through on hard, and after several hours I haven't died once. In fact, right now I have loads of ammo, full health and armor, and 10 health kits.
 
i am in love with this game.. tha AI is amzing.. very good work... cant wait to play the rest of it
 
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