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Okay, I was too lazy to write... Now for the long post.
Antlions, Hydra, 2 more zombies and other things too small to mention weren't cut out of the game. They were stolen by a hacker from Russia. I live in a country where Russia has quite an influence, and we're neighbours. Thus I got my hands on the ripped version of HL2. The zombies where there, different antlions were there... Only Hydra wasn't there (only a non-textured model), instead, a text "Hydra will appear here". The map was done, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah, and so on and so forth, thus it's a missing content, not a cut out one. Even on tellies have we been shown a zombie (the 'cut out' one)throwing a barrel at you on a coast. Pre-release? If so, Valve seems to be very picky and like to change everything the last minute. There's artwork for that, I doubt developers create maps and models, and suddenly "Damn, that doesn't look right.", deleting it afterwards...
If you were a developer, and you just got Half of your Half-Life stolen, would you say - "Sorry players, but we've been f**ked." or would you say that "We had a change of heart. That cool zombie you seen, isn't cool at all.". 2nd option, of course, I doubt I myself would buy a game hearing it has been hacked and lost some of its content.
It's no biggie for me, though. I just say it's a pity they weren't included.
Antlions, Hydra, 2 more zombies and other things too small to mention weren't cut out of the game. They were stolen by a hacker from Russia. I live in a country where Russia has quite an influence, and we're neighbours. Thus I got my hands on the ripped version of HL2. The zombies where there, different antlions were there... Only Hydra wasn't there (only a non-textured model), instead, a text "Hydra will appear here". The map was done, yadda yadda yadda, blah blah blah, and so on and so forth, thus it's a missing content, not a cut out one. Even on tellies have we been shown a zombie (the 'cut out' one)throwing a barrel at you on a coast. Pre-release? If so, Valve seems to be very picky and like to change everything the last minute. There's artwork for that, I doubt developers create maps and models, and suddenly "Damn, that doesn't look right.", deleting it afterwards...
If you were a developer, and you just got Half of your Half-Life stolen, would you say - "Sorry players, but we've been f**ked." or would you say that "We had a change of heart. That cool zombie you seen, isn't cool at all.". 2nd option, of course, I doubt I myself would buy a game hearing it has been hacked and lost some of its content.
It's no biggie for me, though. I just say it's a pity they weren't included.
iMMuNiTy said:
I've played the leak, alot of people have, hell everyone knows about it - but were forbidden to talk about it and rightly so, so don't.
The Hydra was NOT cut out because it was stolen. No. It was cut because the AI was not up to scratch, and was no fun at all. They didn't cut zombie models, because they were stolen - no, they were cut because content changes over time. Do people complain, do people really care about the model of the zombie? No.
And for the record, the hacker was german.
Its called game developement, it happens in every game. Look at the first screenshots of any game and things are changed. HL2 is no different, the leak didn't force any radical change to take place, hell - half of the levels from the leak are in the game anyway. The leak was just a set back.
No content was lost either, where'd you get that idea?
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They don't delete things like that, they make them better. They look at their models and say: "What can we do to make this look cooler? Maybe make it less fat. Give it more detail. Give it a different colour shirt. Rip out its entrails and spew more blood onto their shirt and trousers..."
Trust me, everyone does it. You should check out the pre-release Half-life screenshots. Oh brother does that Barney look ugly..."
The zombie you say is missing has the same AI as the one in the game. They do the same thing. They just look different, and in my opinion better.
Things that don't work at all, like the Hydra, are deleted.
Trust me, everyone does it. You should check out the pre-release Half-life screenshots. Oh brother does that Barney look ugly..."
The zombie you say is missing has the same AI as the one in the game. They do the same thing. They just look different, and in my opinion better.
Things that don't work at all, like the Hydra, are deleted.
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The only type of zombie that I want to see is the original version with the standard headcrab. The new fast zombies/headcrabs and poisonous zombies/headcrabs are CRAP.
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They'd be fantastic for scouting though.Samon said:
Rebel 1:
"What was that loud, low-pitched ungodly wailing that sounded like a human soul being put through unparalled torment?"
Rebel 2:
"Probably nothing..."
"Recon mission a success!"
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I would love to see combine zombies, especially if they were all different... just like the Chaos marines in Warhammer 40k, they could have mutated limbs cracking free of the restraining armour, grotesque skin creeping around the gas mask- they could look as scary as hell, and each could look unique. Personally I thought the Halflife 2 zombies were rather.. lame.
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For me lame looked only the clothing of the zombies. Why every classic zombie would wear a white jacket? I don't get why VALVe cut those other zombies. If they implemented all 3 classic zombies into the game, it'd be great. Argh! Attack of the same looking zombies!Suicide42 said:
Combine soldier zombies would look neat, but they don't kind of fit in. It'd be a horrible misguide in the storyline, as Combine soldiers have protective helmets, which are attached with care; even after a headshot by a magnum it remains. Hell, even after being bombed out with a grenade the combine soldiers still have their masks on. But yeah, I'd like to see them zombified. Especially the process (no sarcasm).
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why? why do all zombies have to look the same? In HL1 they all looked the same. Now in HL2 they all look the same. Why cant we have a slightly different zombie why? Is valve in some way opposed to this? Maybe its a homage to the original HL where all the zombies were former members of the science team. I dont know, all i know is that I want differnt zombies!
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It's a case of meaning over realism. In giving all the zombies exactly the same clothes, Valve is representing the loss of the 'self' - the ego - that comes with zombification. The induction into a mindless mass of moaning half-dead - and so the zombificationi process becomes a metaphor for the loss of individuality that the combine, and even (it can be argued) modern society enforces.
Maybe. :upstare:
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Sulkdodds said:
Now my brain hurts. But a very good point, I think. *joins Samon in claping*
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Never before has bullshit sounded so convincing. Bravo, I applaude you good sir!Sulkdodds said:
Half-life 2 already had as close as any game came to unique NPCs with the citizens. (at least later on in the game) You can't have your cake and eat it too. (I'm not sure how that metaphor works in this context exactly, but it sounded good)
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Why thank you.
Personally, it never really bothered me that much. And when you think about the fact that everyone is made to wear uniforms, it kind of makes sense, even if Ravenholm WAS a resistance town. I mean, there aren't that many other places to get clothing.
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