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Em, i play on 56k all the time. Understand that even if steam had not been released, this would not happen. It is VUg's intentions to get the IP for hl/hl2 and so forth. Steam was only the loophole for them to try and do it. Had steam not been around, they would have used other loopholes by...

Actually I think you all don't understand. The final copy, is basically, the gold master copy. So by the statements in that pr, it doesn't say the rc was rejected, only that valve is planning on sending the final master copy to VU. Not another RC.

Actually its americans, sorry(im american). Vivendi and VU are run by the french, VUg, is ran and based in america. So unless their parent companies are running the sub's than nah. Although everyone loves to blame the french for everything, I don't think its them this time. But VUg has a patent...

3d realms is who i would like to see valve go with. Scott Miller is the best.

yes its now dec 31st

I'm going to answer these one by one. Steam is what you call revolutionary in the terms of content on demand over the internet. It allows for everyone who takes part in the production and lifecycle of a game to make money. It allows for everyone to get patches, so that you can easily get your...

while I understand what you are saying. You also have to understand that this is exactly what VUg did to CS:CZ, for almost 6 months.

yes what they are trying to say is they can reject RC's for up to 6 months delaying the release date. Basically its a stall tactic. It would be smarter for vivendi to release asap, but as soon as fans start to realize what vivendi is doing. The sooner they are going to be very vocal. When you...

the linkage to that thread is broken

I have been trying to decypher the itallic words myself with no avail...yet..

I have 3mb internet, but until the day every home can be wired for broadband or dsl they should always have 56k friendly networking.

I totally agree, he looked at everything from a jaded gamer, somthing can't be right aspect. Instead of trying to find out what the other possibilities besides that valve may be lying to him. Any info he got he seemed to tie together with valve must be lying to gamers. Especially the whole AI...

I believe that even once they are rated the game has to get a proper release date(go gold) before the rating gets posted on the site. I may be wrong though

I just don't see VUg getting an injunction to be honest. Had VUg funded these projects than that would be possible. Had VUg owned the sole rights to distro, and or the IP, contractually, than perhaps yes. But according to their own PR, they don't. In a business perspective you can't blame them...

Please I do not think that the game will be delayed by the court system. The courts are just deciding monetary aspects of contracts. Which has nothing to do with the game itself. ^^ This is exactly what my fear is. VUg pulling a CZ with hl2. There are several reasons one could try this...

The original poster is quite right. Also what I don't think people understand is that not only are they testing for bugs but also stability. So no they can't just play it for a few hours and go, "ok this game is cool and fun and no serious crashes, send it out". It has to be stable so thats...

I believe its 21st century post apocalyptic but yeah thew concepts don't really show that, well except for the one or 2 city scape ones

Thats why the eye candy only issues would all be client side only. While the server just does its normal predictions, and the real stuff would be server side.

the bandwith issue has been discussed heavily by valve. You can determine what is client and what is server side yourself. So some very neccicary things will be server side and soem of the astheiatic things will just be client most likely.

yes my original post was meant to say not even hl2 has the shadowglitch. People are obsessing over a bug that will not even be in the final build.