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Did you... make a case for the voodoo? :laugh:

are you using the CCC? "catlyst control center" or if you were but are no longer did you remove the older drivers completly? People get that when using the CCC and turn on the AI option to high. Oh and if your talking in the source system test that you are getting those, its actually a bug...

The only problems that have been discused at the rage3d site (ati card forums etc) Is they at times seem to have a problem with the 9600 series. the 9600xt in specific, some users get some bad errors, and can't use them, have to go back to 4.11. Other then that most people find them fine.

Valve has always been a very devoted devloper for its game, so we can expect good patchs for many years, old bugs will be removed, new ones will be found, and they to will get ironed out in time.

nice thing is, is the fact the reviewers systems were using 9800's. So these screens really are something, Can't wait for those "ATI" levels to see what they can pull out for this gens cards.

running the 4.12's here, everything is working fine. Just make sure you completly remove your old drivers before installing new ones.

Suggestion. If you don't even know how to get into your bios, the LAST thing you should be doing is trying to overclock it. Next thing you know we will see a post from you at a friends computer etc saying you killed it. :lol:

no it means it won't be crashing every 15 mintues under the strain :rolleyes:

For steam! LOL no. its going to be a diritive of linux.

You have to get bronze, silver or gold on steam. (online only) Stores only have normal or collectors editions

The lie is the fact they kept claming it could do it well, while every site under the sun proved that as false.

yup :(

its not "intentionally" handicapped by valve. its Intentionally by Nvidia, they lied through their teeth the entire time the Fx line was out about its dx9 features.

You'll find when a company says "lifetime" warenty/returns. They don't mean for your life. Just the life of the product, so once it stops being sold on shelfs, or they phase it out. They no longer have to do their warenty.

That would be the R500/R520 which the xbox next will also be using.

at a lower res yes.

You can do that already, except for the 60+ fps Mabye when the next gen cards hit.

Which is what one of the bigger improvments is for the 4.12 beta's, the ram bug is fixed. Along with some other things.

1024x768 32-bit colour all settings maxed. 16x AF, And depending on what kind of hit I get with AA, 2x or 4x. Id love to go higher, and could, but Id have to push the AA or AF down a notch which I don't like.

:dozey: Before you start pointing the "optimzation" finger at ati, mabye you should look at the history of Nvidia.