0.999.... = 1

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Ikerous said:
Lol, its like 6th grade math...
1/3*3 = 1
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I never heard numbers with infinitely repeting decimals of nine equaled the next whole number in sixth grade :S
 
Que-Ever said:
btw, thesomeone started out sounding smart to me, now he just sounds whiney and stubborn :|
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;( It's because no one beleives me.
 
Que-Ever said:
I never heard numbers with infinitely repeting decimals of nine equaled the next whole number in sixth grade :S
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But the proof itself, its 6th grade math
Real math gets much harder :)
 
TheSomeone said:
;( It's because no one beleives me.
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Well, if they don't, and you turn out right, who cares, then? sucks for them, dunnit...

Ikerous said:
But the proof itself, its 6th grade math
Real math gets much harder :)
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ok, you're right... and real math is much harder (if you count trig as real math)
 
dream431ca said:
0.999 is not equal to 1. It is if you are a basic mathematics person. For me, being a technologist, 0.999 is far off from one. Let me explain:
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Yeah, you're totally right, but 0.999.... and 0.999 aren't the same thing. You'll never get 0.999... in technology because it's the same as 1, so it would just output 1.
 
Please read my last post and that should tell you why it doesn't equal 1.
 
(.999~ * 2) is not 2.

1 * 2 is.

Where's the logic here.
 
I think I'm gonna go drink .999999999...*5 shots of Sambuca.
 
TheSomeone said:
Yeah, you're totally right, but 0.999.... and 0.999 aren't the same thing. You'll never get 0.999... in technology because it's the same as 1, so it would just output 1.
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But take science into consideration. They're not just gonna round it up, it could throw the whole experiment off.
 
TheSomeone said:
Yeah, you're totally right, but 0.999.... and 0.999 aren't the same thing. You'll never get 0.999... in technology because it's the same as 1, so it would just output 1.
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You have no idea how annoying it is to troubleshoot a system because the chip is getting 0.999 and not 1. Yes it does matter if it is 0.999 or 1. In Avionics you must be precise or you will have errors.
 
Pesmerga said:
(.999~ * 2) is not 2.

1 * 2 is.

Where's the logic here.
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Tis the truth this man doth speaketh.

Edit: How the hell did this thread get to 7 pages!?
 
Wow. I'm very surprise that the ".9 repeating = 1" school is in the minority here.

.9 repeating does = 1, and every mathematician in the world agrees.

The problem is that numbers are not the same things as the symbols that represent them. If you want to use symbols to represent numbers, you have to strictly define what the symbols mean. In the case of repeating decimals, the definition applied to this case is:

.9 repeating = the limit of the infinite sequence (.9, .99, .999, .9999, .99999, ...)

That limit exactly equals one, so .9 repeating = 1.

The problem that a lot of people seem to have is that the limit is a very different thing than the sequence itself. Each element of the sequence is indeed less than one, but the limit is not.
 
Lets put it this way. In an alternate universe, 3 = white shoes.
 
Pesmerga said:
(.999~ * 2) is not 2.

1 * 2 is.

Where's the logic here.
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It's right here:

0.999... = x
2.999... = 2x
2.999... - x = 2x -x
2.999... - (0.999...) = 2x - x (substitution)
2 = 2
 
dream431ca said:
You have no idea how annoying it is to troubleshoot a system because the chip is getting 0.999 and not 1. Yes it does matter if it is 0.999 or 1. In Avionics you must be precise or you will have errors.
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but theres a huge difference between .9999 and .9 repeating... forever...
 
dream431ca said:
You have no idea how annoying it is to troubleshoot a system because the chip is getting 0.999 and not 1. Yes it does matter if it is 0.999 or 1. In Avionics you must be precise or you will have errors.
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Again, 0.999 and 0.999.... is different.
 
I've come to understand that mathematics just isnt logical at all. lol

Anyway, on a funny note, I think this is the fastest growing thread in HL2.net history. lol
 
Qonfused said:
But take science into consideration. They're not just gonna round it up, it could throw the whole experiment off.
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but science is a different kind of math that whatever thesomeone's using, right? so in science and technology, .999.... is too inaccurate, logically it doesn't make sense, but in true, hard, sixth grade mathematics it does come out perfectly. So, the argueing seems pointless to me. but that's just me :)
 
Want proof that 0.999.... does NOT equal 1?


0.999... = 0.999...

1 = 1

omfghz?!!

WHATEVER formula you put behind it there is a TINY infinite fraction that makes 0.999.. NOT equal 1

1 = whole

0.999... = not whole

:rolleyes:
 
Originally Posted by Pesmerga
(.999~ * 2) is not 2.

1 * 2 is.

Where's the logic here.
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That is totally correct because 0.999 is not 1 so 0.999 X 2 is not 2 because your missing a micro number (which is the same as a micro volt or a micro amp or something like that.) In Industry it's very important that it be exact as possible.
 
TheSomeone said:
It's right here:

0.999... = x
2.999... = 2x
2.999... - x = 2x -x
2.999... - (0.999...) = 2x - x (substitution)
2 = 2
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That is still putting it into an equation. Without putting it into an equation, it does not equal 1.

And I go with my last post.

Alternate universe will make 3 = white shoes.
 
Yeah but my calculator doesn't give a shit about your idealogic representations of infinity. If I put in .9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 forever and do * 1 it's not going to equal 1.

And I don't think my math teacher is going to accept my lame shitty ass excuse because i thought it would be cute to use .999... instead of 1.
 
And orange = 3.296249767563456397563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234756823475637856356903892347593456234756349563295762394756239569465290365950236593746579723659792635962357629346923652936523690126512905629056349563490275901459136245613925639453725345235563495634597365937563956294623946237946237956234795634568234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repeating.

:|
 
Qonfused said:
And orange = 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repeating.

:|
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Someone is stealing me idea! -the whole alternate universe thing. :p
 
dream431ca said:
That is totally correct because 0.999 is not 1 so 0.999 X 2 is not 2 because your missing a micro number (which is the same as a micro volt or a micro amp or somegthing like that.) In Industry it's very important that it be exact as possible.
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OH MY FU CKING GOD

0.999 and 0.9 REPEATING ARE NOT THE SAME THING FOR THE LAST TIME.

THERE IS NO NUMBER THAT YOU CAN SUBSTRACT FROM 1 TO GET 0.9 REPEATING. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!
 
If you think this is fun, wait till you get to calculus
Theres a shape that has an infinite surface area, and finite volume :O
 
TheSomeone said:
OH MY FU CKING GOD

0.999 and 0.9 REPEATING ARE NOT THE SAME THING FOR THE LAST TIME.

THERE IS NO NUMBER THAT YOU CAN SUBSTRACT FROM 1 TO GET 0.9 REPEATING. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!
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Sweet, he's going to have an aneurysm at this rate, and this thread can die.
Hum, that's really not complicated if you can read symbols.
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Also last I checked, they dont go over those symbols in basic math...
 
Shens said:
Stop failing basic maths people.
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But math does not have it's place on HL2.net or threads like this will escalate into what this thread has become.
 
TheSomeone said:
OH MY FU CKING GOD

0.999 and 0.9 REPEATING ARE NOT THE SAME THING FOR THE LAST TIME.

THERE IS NO NUMBER THAT YOU CAN SUBSTRACT FROM 1 TO GET 0.9 REPEATING. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE!
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What about 0.11..........? Just curious as to why it wouldn't work..
 
WhiteZero said:
Sweet, he's going to have an aneurysm at this rate, and this thread can die.

Also last I checked, they dont go over those symbols in basic math...
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Aneurysms happen for no reason, and especially not for pressing caps-lock.
 
I'm so glad I never have to take another math course again. Ever.
 
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