9800 vs 9800 pro...

[Solus]

Just about the only difference I know is that one costs $100 more... is the pro really worth the extra $100 bucks? What exactly are the differences?

I'm upgrading from geforce3.

 

[MacGraham]

Nothing, underclocked with some models having slower memory. apart from that its the same card. I got one coming tommorrow

 

[Murray_H]

General Disscussion Forum vs Hardware Forum

 

[Rilcon]

Clock speed is lower, but people manage to change the bios and turn it into a pro, or close to it. There's also an SE model, wich is supposed to be considerably slower and with more limitations.

 

[SidewinderX]

yeah, clock speeds are lower...

/me coughs

Hardware forum

 

[Think]

Whats the clock speed on the 9800 and pro modells, i have a 9700pro im going to try overclock it to atleast a 9800 nopro

 

[Lyrids]

If you have the kind of money to blow off another $100 on slightly higher clockspeeds I would say go for it. If you're on a little bit of a budget and don't feel like shelling out the extra money you won't find any significant difference with the NP.

 

[d8cam]

I just bought an ATI Radeon 9800 Non-Pro yesterday. I ran Vice City at 110fps with 4xAA and 12XAF at 1152x864.

I ran the Call of Duty demo great too.

P4 1.7
1GB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS P4S533
SB AUDIGY 2
ATI RADEON 9800 Non-Pro

 

[thehunter1320]

i know the only thing better than both of those cards(besides sex, women, and pizza)
lol

 

[Yapa]

I was shopping for a radeion 9700 pro, but with prices still high I decied to get the 9800 non pro.... the 9800 non pro is pretty much equal in performance to the 9700 pro and you can easily overclock it to be much faster than the 9700 pro, but still nothing compared to the 9800 pro.

I recommend getting a 9800 non pro and overclocking it a bit. Saves you quite a bit and its not THAT much slower than the pro version....

Yapa

 

[Shirow-DG]

Just flash the 9800 to 9800 Pro. I'll post this guide here but take no responsibility blah blah.

ATI RADEON 9800NP>9800PRO BY FLASHING GUIDE - Courtesy of SaturnTR

I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DAMAGED HARDWARE DURING THIS GUIDE

As you all may know, the Radeon 9800 Non Pro and the Radeon 9800 Pro as both the same cards, but the Radeon 9800NP has a lower core clock, and slower memory clocks. Hopefully this guide will help you get the most from your Radeon 9800NP card.

First, you will need a bootdisk that will get you to a DOS prompt. I recommend http://www.bootdisk.com if you don't already have a bootdisk.

Secondly, you will need a copy of the Radeon 9800Pro BIOS, which can be located here: http://www.digitalsynapses.com/9800mod/98-8004.BIN

Now you will need a BIOS flashing utility for your card, which can be located right here: http://www.digitalsynapses.com/9800mod/flashrom/

Now that you have everything you need, move the Radeon 9800Pro BIOS (98-8004.BIN) to the bootdisk, and also move flashrom files to the bootdisk.

Okay, now you have the disk containing everything you need to flash your Radeon 9800NP into a 9800Pro.

Before you flash, check to see what brand of memory is on your card. Unless you have Samsung 2.2ns, 2.8ns, 3.0ns, or 3.3ns do not flash. If you have any of the above Samsung memory and your cards memory tops at say 330MHz, you should be OK to flash, as the 9800Pro BIOS slightly raises the voltage going to the memory, allowing for higher clocks.

Now that we've passed that little hurdle, we can now prepare to flash. First, reboot your computer with the floppy disk inside of your drive. This should bring you to an A: prompt...Once you get to an A: prompt type:

flashrom -s 0 original.bin

Your original BIOS is now saved to the floppy, and you are ready to flash.

Now type this once your BIOS is saved:

flashrom -p 0 98-8004.BIN

(Important: The Char. Above is a zero, not an "o")


Once you have completed this, you should have received a message saying BIOS flash was successful. Reboot your PC, and it should take you into WindowsXP, or whatever OS you are using and detect your card as a Radeon 9800Pro.

If your memory was not able to handle this flash, simple place a PCI video card in beside your Radeon 9800, and proceed to flashing to the original BIOS that is on your floppy disk. If you don't have a PCI video card you can possibly try flashing blind, which means you will flash to original BIOS with no screen display.

I hope my guide has helped you push your Radeon 9800NP even further. My OC on original NP bios was 479/357, and after flashing I obtained 479/425 absolutely stable. Your results will vary depending on how well your card OCs.

Remember, if you screw up your card, YOU screwed it up, not me. I simply provided the needed steps and software for flashing your card. I am not a repairman.

Have fun guys!

 

[nsxownzme]

Originally posted by thehunter1320
i know the only thing better than both of those cards(besides sex, women, and pizza)
lol

Nah, I'd take a card over pizza, chubby. And those bitches need to get cock slapped... like you.

 

[Sigoo]

Would a 350 Watt psu be enough with a 9800 non pro, 1.5Ghz p4,512rdram,HDD,DVD,CD-RW?

 

[Sigoo]

Originally posted by Yapa
I was shopping for a radeion 9700 pro, but with prices still high I decied to get the 9800 non pro.... the 9800 non pro is pretty much equal in performance to the 9700 pro and you can easily overclock it to be much faster than the 9700 pro, but still nothing compared to the 9800 pro.

I recommend getting a 9800 non pro and overclocking it a bit. Saves you quite a bit and its not THAT much slower than the pro version....

Yapa

Were did you get it? I just went to newegg and the cheapest one got pretty bad reviews.

 

[Xtasy0]

Originally posted by d8cam
I just bought an ATI Radeon 9800 Non-Pro yesterday. I ran Vice City at 110fps with 4xAA and 12XAF at 1152x864.

I ran the Call of Duty demo great too.

P4 1.7
1GB PC2700 DDR RAM
ASUS P4S533
SB AUDIGY 2
ATI RADEON 9800 Non-Pro

there is no 12xAF setting, there is 8xAF and then 16xAF.

 

[Lifthz]

Do yourself a favor and save $100... buy the 9800 (non-pro)

 

[Axyon]

Bit late, but I'm moving this to the Hardware forum.

 

[SpoBo]

haha i ordered the Hercules 9800 pro combine that with my newly ordered system and I'll have something equal to the E3 demo I can't wait for halflife2 lol ... I just hope the damn shop sends me the mail that they have all the stuff i ordered so they can mail it to me