A PC gamer chats with a console fanatic...

Ppppfttt. Don't worry. Many of these console fanatics have never touched Half-Life.

Crazy Playstation Generation.

/me shakes fist
 
The Thing said:
Ppppfttt. Don't worry. Many of these console fanatics have never touched Half-Life.

Crazy Playstation Generation.

/me shakes fist
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Oi, I rode that wave when I was a wee tot :)

Well... wee-er. Then the Playstation broke and we got a PC. Still have fond memories of it, though.
 
I'm one of those rare people who are on both sides; Playing Half-Life and its many mods, and playing on my Playstation2. I think that conversation is hilarious, how can someone be so stupid? Also the one about games installing video cards... "Every time you make something idiot-proof, they come out with a stupider idiot." - I think that quote fits.
 
I have a Halo friend, but he knows absolutly nothing about hardware and knows that i can outsmart him when it comes to any electronic.
Ive beat some sense into those halo fans out there.... :)
 
Of course, being an XBox Halo fan doesn't make you ignorant of everything...I'm sure they could "beat some sense" into you about a few things.
 
Ive beet alot more sense than some.
Hell ive converted a few :).
I will go very far into forcing them to show them what games like Half-Life 2 are doing compared to Halo and Halo 2 are doing. Even if it means bring them to a "Halo lan Party" then chain them into a chair force there eyes open and force them to watch Half-Life 2 videos!.

I go to extraodariny lengths!
 
Minerel said:
Ive beet alot more sense than some.
Hell ive converted a few :).
I will go very far into forcing them to show them what games like Half-Life 2 are doing compared to Halo and Halo 2 are doing. Even if it means bring them to a "Halo lan Party" then chain them into a chair force there eyes open and force them to watch Half-Life 2 videos!.

I go to extraodariny lengths!
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Gregory would be proud, a true evangelist :)
 
Minerel said:
Ive beet alot more sense than some.
Hell ive converted a few :).
I will go very far into forcing them to show them what games like Half-Life 2 are doing compared to Halo and Halo 2 are doing. Even if it means bring them to a "Halo lan Party" then chain them into a chair force there eyes open and force them to watch Half-Life 2 videos!.

I go to extraodariny lengths!
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Yeah i've done that too, its pretty fun converting them.
Especially when you get someone, really REALLY stubborn and you just show them one scene of HL2 and they're like ".............Wow............" and you're like :E that's right
 
we should send out missionaries to convert ppl. build churches and homes for 'console gamers' :p
 
Well, don't get me wrong, I like consoles (I've had a Megadrive 2, Playstation, and I've still got a Gamecube... lovely, nummy Gamecube...), in fact, we're currently borrowing an XBox from another friend of ours (also a console nut, but one who says he'll get a PC as soon as he can afford one). I'm looking forward to playing Beyond Good and Evil on it later tonight...

It's just that I prefer a multipurpose device like a PC, with the higher resolution, and the smaller fonts, and the nicer graphics, and the better control devices...
 
The Thing said:
Ppppfttt. Don't worry. Many of these console fanatics have never touched Half-Life.

Crazy Playstation Generation.

/me shakes fist
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I am of the playstation generationg and I played half-life
 
<RJMC> said:
I am of the playstation generationg and I played half-life
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Don't listen to em m8 - many of these guys won't have played Ico, or finished Zelda OoT (and many others). Easily as great a video gaming crime as not having played Half Life.
 
Ive played Zelda although i just used a emulator and played it on my PC..umm Look a duck!*Runs away*
 
Warbie said:
Don't listen to em m8 - many of these guys won't have played Ico, or finished Zelda OoT (and many others). Easily as great a video gaming crime as not having played Half Life.
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I love Zelda ;(
But what system is Ico for?
 
Ico is for Playstation 2

There are many people who claim their console is the best, and some who claim PC is the best... It is all your opinion, none is the best. They all have their ups and downs. I am one who uses many different consoles and a PC as well. This thread interested me by the topic, and the first post I saw talk of stupid console fanboys and girls, but it must be known that there is a rare breed out there that likes both sides just the same, and doesn't gloat about either side being superior. I am part of that breed.

:sniper: Superiority
 
Consoles are great for platform games, fight'em'ups and arcade style games.

PCs are great for FPS & RTS.
 
-- Pffft, yeah, right. Noob. There's this little secondary processor on your computer's graphics card that handles all the physics. 's called the FPU, the Physics Processing Unit.

This thread is a riot! Although a physics processing unit would be fantastic this said statement is not the case.

My work collegue and I were debating how good the PS3 could possibly be in regards to their "Cell" architecture. His position is that PCs will always be better than consoles and perhaps to a degree he is right in consideration that he always upgrades like crazy. A GPU cannot handle physic instructions for one simple reason, directX/Quartz/G-worlds simply does not provide abstraction for any functions! (i.e. the hardware cannot tell the host operating system that it can handle physical based functions).

I agree that the "FPU" will be a sooner than later thing but not today peoples. The PS3 will be interesting on the simple fact that it has a shared memory pool and mesh based messaging router which means it can allow the cpu to direct any function call to anything it likes without requiring to traverse the system bus which in PC architecture is so slow it is the last thing you want.... regarding the PS3... we shall see but I my thoughts are that consoles are a great way to get rid of the well outdated architecture (i.e. a buss!? how retro).
 
*Sigh*Why do people have to be fanboys?:p I got both a decent PC and consoles, I love'em both.*Snuggles consoles and kisses PC*
My first contact with HL was acctually the PS2 version which I bought :)
Ah I remember my first PC gaming memory, was at a friends when we were like 8 and we were playing Duke Nukem and this girl shows her breasts and his mom comes in and thinks we're watching porno :LOL:
 
Ah the fond memories I have of bashing console n00bs.

The fanboys in my class for the whole year, just loved to argue the point against me constantly. They're a small group of 3 who usully stick by themselves.

Console Fan boy 1: Halo 2 will sell more than Half-Life 2
Me: I'm inclined to agree with you there. It's a console FPS, those are hard to come by. Appealing to the masses and so forth.
CFB1: Right.
Me: Look at what Hl1 sold.
CFB2: Counter-strike makes those sales, not Hl.
Me: I never said CS retail sold alot. I'm talking about the people who bought HL to play CS.
CFB1: The Sims sold more than Hl1
Me: The Sims is a PC game, whats your point?
Mr Button walks into the room.
CFB3: Your an arrogent prick, I'm going to beat you up.
Me: This coming from the guy whose 1 and a 1/2 years younger than me and quite easy to trip up?
CFB3: I could easily beat you.
Me: Do your worst. Oh and by the way you might want to look behind you.
Mr button taps his shoulder
CFB3 screams.

Oh god I just loved making them angry. Ohwell, the rest of the school in comparison won't back down from their console standpoint.
 
vieo said:
I agree that the "FPU" will be a sooner than later thing but not today peoples. The PS3 will be interesting on the simple fact that it has a shared memory pool and mesh based messaging router which means it can allow the cpu to direct any function call to anything it likes without requiring to traverse the system bus which in PC architecture is so slow it is the last thing you want.... regarding the PS3... we shall see but I my thoughts are that consoles are a great way to get rid of the well outdated architecture (i.e. a buss!? how retro).
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This basically already exists in a macro-environment in the form of cluster computing- its basically the same foundation principles that the PS3's "Cell" structure works on.
But to say that consoles are the only viable means for which to use this technology is close minded at best, considering the fact that the very same technology is being developed by AMD ( I think) for use in PC's (who incidentally are providing the chips for the PS3).
A system bus is hardly retro considering it is essentially the only method for CPU interfacing that's used in PC's today.

However, the risk with the PS3 style "Cell" system is the short lifespan as we get closer to having completely solid-state computers, housed within the one chip, this, and other fruits of nanotechnology will once again leave consoles in the dust.

Then, we're only steps away from quantumn computing, which will make PC's and Consoles essentially the same thing with a different coloured box.


Also, try not to dig up such ancient threads.
 
funny conversation....some of the arguments you hear are ridiculous but if you look back you can giggle for about twenty mins...
 
I personally think that sooner or later we'll have chips in our computers that'll download a new set of schematics for themselves during the day and nanomechanically update themselves the next time you power down the computer.

It'll actually mean something logical when someone says "I'm going to download my computer more RAM", rather than the statement just being one worthy of that "Computer Stupidities" page.
 
I have all 3 consoles and an good PC (Black PC, black PS2, black Gamecube and... CRYSTAL Xbox... what was i thinking? they clash so horribly!!! [/sissy] ) and i love them all :D too bad i never actually use my consoles... oh well :p Xbox live is fun though.
 
You know, I always thought conversations like this were BS, but then I was sitting in French class one day, and I heard this from across the room:

1: Hey, have you heard about Half-Life 2? It got a 98 in PCGamer and they're calling it the best game ever.

2.: Nah, there's no way anything could beat Halo.

And I won't repeat the rest - you know how it goes.
 
I love both consoles and PC. PC has a smaller variety in it's game selection, but allows me to be creative and create content for those games. Console on the other hand has many more games, but all you can do is play them. not able to tinker around in them.

(I would love to make maps for the Halo's but allas, I have to wait for Bungie to release new ones :()
 
It's okay to only own a console.

It isn't okay if you have no idea what you're talking about.

People who absolutley love their console, should atleast find out how they work.
 
I think Warbie said it best earlier. The console does have a wide variety of titles, many of which are truly outstanding. Games like Ico, RE4, Eternal Darkness, Japanese RPG's, Silent Hill series, MGS, and the Zelda games don't happen on the PC (then again, games like Thief, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, HL/HL2, Starcraft, DoW, and Baulders Gate don't happen on the console).

The PC game suffers a bit from developers having to spend a great amount of time making sure their game works on all possible hardware configurations, creating software that doesn't interfere with anything else on the system, and making sure the game is built with modifiability in min; basically, PC game development often focuses on tasks that are completely unrelated to gameplay, or the core game. The PC game market is also not regulated in the same way the consoles are, which is why it's not known for the same title quality as the console market. If I want to make a game on the PC, I can get a small team together and do it (getting published is another thing, but it can be done, even with a shit product). If I want to make a game on the console, I have to go through Sony, Nintendo, or Microsoft, get the proper tools, and produce a game that's able to pass through their quality control sessions. Getting through those sessions can be quite tough, depending on the title, and your rep.

The console game suffers from a lack of engaging online play (it's only just starting to gain speed), and a total lack of custom content and longevity when compared to the PC. People still play the original HL and it's mods to this very day, and they enjoy it. HL was a purchase that kept people entertained for six years. You can't say that for any console game- not one. The console is also not suited for some of the more engaging, in-depth games mentioned above. Games like Deus Ex, and SS2 don't work on them. RTS games don't work either.

So there are tradeoffs and benefits to both. For me, the console is all about the games, and having fun. Very few tend to grab me and immerse me in them completely (Eternal Darkness and Silent Hill both did). They are fun, exciting, and generally imaginative. I can sink some time into them, and turn off the system when I've had my fill.

The PC is a different beast entirely. When I load up a game of Thief, I'm there. I totally block out my surroundings and am just sucked into the game, just exploring, stealing, and hiding hours and hours away. The PC game, for me, tends to be a more immersive and engrossing experience. I can create custom content for the games I love, and play the custom content others provide. Thief and Thief 2, for example, have hundreds of fan missions, some of which take hours upon hours to complete and are better than the official missions themselves. The PC game borders on simulation for me, rather than pure game.
 
we pc gamers need to stop acting like we are the elites.
serious, its f'd up.

i know quite a number of "console fanatics" that are equally fanatical in their pc games. its bs to be a stereotype.

aside from that moment of seriouness, that was a funny chat =)
 
bliink said:
This basically already exists in a macro-environment in the form of cluster computing- its basically the same foundation principles that the PS3's "Cell" structure works on.
But to say that consoles are the only viable means for which to use this technology is close minded at best, considering the fact that the very same technology is being developed by AMD ( I think) for use in PC's (who incidentally are providing the chips for the PS3).
A system bus is hardly retro considering it is essentially the only method for CPU interfacing that's used in PC's today.

However, the risk with the PS3 style "Cell" system is the short lifespan as we get closer to having completely solid-state computers, housed within the one chip, this, and other fruits of nanotechnology will once again leave consoles in the dust.

Then, we're only steps away from quantumn computing, which will make PC's and Consoles essentially the same thing with a different coloured box.


Also, try not to dig up such ancient threads.
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This is off topic, but...how the hell do you know this shit? :LOL:

For god sakes I'm from the south and you tons more about guns then I do and now this? :O

You use google or somethin? lol
 
Console fanboys like shiny things and big explosions. They also like lots of large buttons to press and tend to like games that require little skill (thats why they cry over ninja gaiden) thats why games have to be dumbed down for console gamers. Like deus ex 2, console fanboys couldn't handle more than one type of ammo or else they got confused (yeah that hasn't happened before :rolleyes: ) which ruined the game for PC gamers

CFB playing HL2 said:
Oooooo shiny!11 me likes !!1 OMG THE BARRAL GO BOOM BOOM BLAM!!! COOLZORZ THIS juts liek HALO 2!11

Ooooo big shiny red button me WANNA PRESS NOW!! Oooo this game too hard me no want 2 play no morez!1 I go play halo nowz!
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I'm a console fanatic and a hardcore PC gamer, I've been playing PC games since about the release of Doom 2 (I used to play it at a neighbour's house all the time and I've owned various rigs since 1998. I've been playing games online since '98 (mainly first person shooters) Started with Quake 2 CTF and SiN and went right through with Unreal, Half Life and TFC - even some original TF for a while to Unreal Tournament - UT2003, 2004 and Half Life 2 - those are the main FPS games I played online, but also went through everything from AvP to Flashpoint and back again. I'm a big fan of Bioware and Black Isle games - a huge fan of the classic Fallout games. I've also dabbled in a couple of the lesser known MMORPGs - Legend of Mir and Biosphere (Savage Eden).
My last two systems (before the exceptionally cheap refurbished Dell system I'm using right now) I customized (did not build, but chose every part) myself and later assimilated myself. The only thing I've never done with my systems is fit a mobo or processor - that just scares me.
I also own a NES, SNES, Genesis/SegaCD X'eye, PSX, N64, Dreamcast, PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, GB, GBA, GBA SP and a DS.
I play mainly RPGs and action adventures on consoles - my top titles being Metroid, Castlevania, Secret of Mana and Xenogears. I am also a huge fan of 2D fighters (an SNK obsessive) and I hope to someday own a NeoGeo MVS (much more power than the AES) system with every KoF MVS title (now we just need an Atomiswave home console!). My console library extends from games like ICO to Metroid, Zelda to Timesplitters, Red Faction to Shadowhearts, Final Fantasy to Castlevania, Mana to Legacy of Kain.
I've been playing console games since 1993 and originally owned an Atari 800XL in 1988 and an Atari ST in 1990 (basically Personal Conputer systems - but also had extensive game libraries). I owned over 300 disks for the ST and at least two thirds of that were games, a third of which had more than one game per disk. Back then my favourite games had to be Turrican, Another World, Gauntlet 2 and Operation Stealth.

The purpose of this little statement was that not all console gamers are like that - I'm a massive geek on both sides of the fence. And I'm glad a game finally has a believeable physics engine. UT2003's ragdoll got me wet but Half Life 2 made me cream.

Deus Ex 2 was an abomination - and the console version of Deus Ex got rid of almost everything that made the PC version an RPG.
 
Zeus said:
Console fanboys like shiny things and big explosions. They also like lots of large buttons to press and tend to like games that require little skill (thats why they cry over ninja gaiden) thats why games have to be dumbed down for console gamers. Like deus ex 2, console fanboys couldn't handle more than one type of ammo or else they got confused (yeah that hasn't happened before :rolleyes: ) which ruined the game for PC gamers
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:)

I pretty much believe the opposite of everything you just said (and i'm a big pc fan)
 
We all know they're are people who love pc's and console's equally. Theres nothing wrong with that.

It's an awfull lot of fun to joke about the absolute dummies that don't know anything. I don't mean any offense to normal users, but come on I know people who can't play tetris.
 
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