Aftermath too damn cheap $$$

[Lou]

A good or bad omen? I am hoping the price is not proportional to the length of the game, but something in my gut tells me it's going to be about 1/3 the length of HL2, which in turn was about 2/3 the length of HL1.. oh well...

 

[CrazyJeepDriver]

Nothing is too cheap.
Anyway, Valve confirmed its 1/3 the length of HL2.

 

[Lou]

Nothing is too cheap.
Anyway, Valve confirmed its 1/3 the length of HL2.

Did it really? (I guessed correctly!)

 

[Pi Mu Rho]

Aftermath is around 5-6 hours long.

 

[Barney_Calhoun]

HL2, which in turn was about 2/3 the length of HL1

Half-Life : less than an hour
Half-Life 2: About 2 hours.

HL2 = Longer than HL

 

[Przemek]

I dont think it's too cheap.
When buying HL2, you had to pay for the technology research and SDK development.
Since this is an addon, you just pay for the new content. Add the fact it's shorter than a full game.

I think Aftermath's price is absolutely appropriate

 

[bigburpco]

Half-Life : less than an hour
Half-Life 2: About 2 hours.

HL2 = Longer than HL

People who complete HL under an hour are geniuses. I can't even remotely see how someone would do it that fast... but then again I see a video of HL being completed in 45 minutes, and his methods of playing are way different... I'm going to try copying hm.

 

[TheGMan.]

Wow, there's one guy complaining about the game itself, and it isn't have came out.. Now someone is complaining that the price's are too low?

 

[Lou]

People who complete HL under an hour are geniuses. I can't even remotely see how someone would do it that fast... but then again I see a video of HL being completed in 45 minutes, and his methods of playing are way different... I'm going to try copying hm.

That's impossible, even if you just run and ignore your enemies... What's the name of that video? I want to download it to see for myself.

 

[Naudian]

You'd be suprised, Lou.

Heh, I said Lou...

 

[_Z_Ryuken]

Half-Life : less than an hour
Half-Life 2: About 2 hours.

HL2 = Longer than HL

How's your math?

AM = 1
AM = 2/3 HL1
AM = 1/3 HL2

2/3HL1 = 1/3HL2

If AM is very short, HL1 is short, and HL2 is relatively long, then:

1 = 2/3 of short, and 1/3 of long.

Assume 2/3 = 1/2 of HL2

2/3 = 1/6 long.

1/6 long HL1 = HL2, 2/3 long, 4/6 long.

1/6 != 4/6 therefore HL2 is longer by his logic and needed no correction.

 

[nutcrackr]

Too cheap lol. I don't think so, it just prooves that Steam is very successful and they can afford to charge much cheaper and still probably earn more money than via retail.

 

[Naudian]

Too cheap lol. I don't think so, it just prooves that Steam is very successful and they can afford to charge much cheaper and still probably earn more money than via retail.

Damn right

 

[UltimaApocalypse]

People who complete HL under an hour are geniuses. I can't even remotely see how someone would do it that fast... but then again I see a video of HL being completed in 45 minutes, and his methods of playing are way different... I'm going to try copying hm.

I've seen that, all he does is exclude every single glitch in Half Life. That and he jumps around like crazy

 

[Steven]

Where's the video of this guy, no one posted a link.
edit
There's 50 billion links on Google anyway.

 

[azumi]

would be awesome to see a video of that!

 

[Jintor]

Who cares? The cheaper the better.

 

[Delirious]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=164552782388117758&q=half-life

 

[rambler]

That's impossible, even if you just run and ignore your enemies... What's the name of that video? I want to download it to see for myself.

he uses cheats, fast running script etc. no one can complete either game in an hour without cheats.

 

[Max35]

he uses cheats, fast running script etc. no one can complete either game in an hour without cheats.

And didn't he use some sort of level glitch/cheat to skip a few chapters?.

 

[Jintor]

He doesn't cheat, he exploits. There's a difference.

 

[Lou]

He doesn't cheat, he exploits. There's a difference.

It could have been my imagination, but it appeared to me that the guy was running/bunny hopping faster than normal.

 

[UltimaApocalypse]

I think he may of lowered the gravity by a bit, but thats it.(hey that rhymes!!)

 

[Asuka]

I think its to cheap. 20-30 is good.

 

[Adabiviak]

You have to think of the first time you play the game. I certainly don't play through a game on a speed run the first time I play it. The story is still new, there are things I haven't seen yet, things I don't want to miss, and traps I'm not aware of. The first time I played Half Life, I spent many days soaking it in, and it's still one of my most memorable game experiences ever.

 

[A True Canadian]

The rumored price of $12 really is a discount when compared to the content.


If Aftermath is indeed about 1/3 the length of Half-Life 2, then the next two episodes (if charged at the same price) will cost a total of $24. The content of three episodes (if Valve follows through on their episodic content) would equal the content of Half-Life 2 -which is priced at about $45-50.

3 episodes at $36 total versus Half-Life 2 at $50. Sounds like a great deal.


It'll be interesting to see how high EA will mark up the prices of the boxed versions of the games.

 

[UltimaApocalypse]

The boxed versions are going to be the generic $50.00 most likely. And Raziel, why would you WANT it to be $30?

 

[CyberPitz]

Why would you complain about it being cheap!? I'm too poor.

PS the video of the guy completing it in 45 minutes seems pretty legit. You just gotta play a certain spot a billion times over to get every inch of everything down D:

Didn't look like any sort of "cheating" or lower grav or something.

 

[bigburpco]

He's just madass pwnage. Watching him defeat Gonarch is like D: D: D:

Why would you care whether the price is too low? Some people can't really afford $20 - $30 per episode... That would stink, but I would buy it anyway.

EDIT:

Wow, there's one guy complaining about the game itself, and it isn't have came out.. Now someone is complaining that the price's are too low?

You are being ignored, yes?

 

[Jintor]

I remember that the videos were made by clipping together sections, since the players talk about 'I had to repeat this section X numbers of times before I got this perfect one'.

The lower the price, the better for fans. Maybe the better for Valve, as well... although, since this is an expansions... *shrugs*

 

[kupocake]

HL2, which in turn was about 2/3 the length of HL1...

I'm not convinced. I played through the original extremely quickly recently. Plus, in terms of physical (or digital physical, whatever) space, HL2 is considerably bigger, thanks to the absolutely massive Vehicle sections. HL2 only feels shorter because it is so marvelously tense, IMO. Very few bits in the original HL feel like that. There is more exploration, discovery, taking your time. Or alternatively, there's shit loads of tedious jumping puzzles that just drag the game out to lingering sufferance.

Not to mention the fact that HL2 has considerably more lenghty story-telling sequences that must add considerably to the "play" time. Also, I think people forget that they've simply got better at these games. Sure, I completed HL2 in 3 days first time, and HL1 in an entire week the first time. But i'd been FPS gaming for a year then and in 2004, i'd been doing so for seven years. I'd say they take about the same time to complete now. I love HL2 far more though.

 

[ComradeBadger]

It could have been my imagination, but it appeared to me that the guy was running/bunny hopping faster than normal.

No, that's PROPER bunnyhopping

You'd be suprised at the level of HLDM players :E

 

[bigburpco]

You'd be surprised at the level of HLDM players :E

Those guys are gay :| They snipe you through walls (gauss gun)... how the freaking hell can anyone one do that? I understand if they can snipe well but that's just gay. And then they bunnyhop... I only can play properly in maps with high places. :smoking:

 

[Spoonoop]

So Aftermath is 1/3 the legth of Half-Life 2 eh? And Half-Life 2 had like 13 or 14 chapters right? This means that Aftermath will be 4-5 chapters long, does that sound like it sucks or what? I just hope Half-Life 2 doesn't turn into that episode crap. Aftermath is not an episode, it's an official expansion. But what comes out after Aftermath will determine if it is heading in that direction.

 

[Rizzo]

Im going nuts here, ill tell you that.
I want half life AM.
I want Lost.
I want money.

 

[M1CH43L]

Lost is on tonight by the way, anyway i beat HL2 in maybe rather quickly, not on purpose, but honestly i got it beaten under two weeks (which is pretty quick if you think about it). Anyway, for the new game, im going to explore even more..... Also, no such thing as too good of a deal (unless strings are attached).

 

[el Chi]

So Aftermath is 1/3 the legth of Half-Life 2 eh? And Half-Life 2 had like 13 or 14 chapters right? This means that Aftermath will be 4-5 chapters long, does that sound like it sucks or what? I just hope Half-Life 2 doesn't turn into that episode crap. Aftermath is not an episode, it's an official expansion. But what comes out after Aftermath will determine if it is heading in that direction.

HL2 was a decent enough length, so I figure Aftermath'll be a fgairly standard length for an expansion.

 

[Fliko]

Nothing is too cheap.
Anyway, Valve confirmed its 1/3 the length of HL2.

For some people, that means 1 hour of gameplay

 

[kupocake]

And Half-Life 2 had like 13 or 14 chapters right? This means that Aftermath will be 4-5 chapters long, does that sound like it sucks or what?

Chapters are an incredibly inaccurate way of measuring the length of a Half-Life game. Red Letter Day and Black Mesa are about 1/6th of the length of Highway 17 and Water Hazard. I reckon, even if it is 1/3rd of the original game (and TBH, I always thought the length was supposed to be 2/3rds), there'll still be short storytelling chapters that up the chapter count to more like 7 or 8.

 

[eber]

eww it took me over 2 months to complete the original half-life and it was the greatest and most astonishing experiance i ever made with an FPS.

hl2 took me about 4-5 days to complete.

now after so many times of replaying i can beat both games in about 6 hours or even less.