Alien Grunts

[ríomhaire]

hello i liked gonarch

If I hadn't been off-topic for the last page I'd report you.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Yup, it's an RTS. I'm sure I'll find a way to make it run faster on people's computers.

My next silly task is to make Gargantua work, so I can finally settle the "Who's better, Gargantua or the Strider?" dispute. Of course, I've gotta wait until Valve gets back to me on the plausibility, because porting Gargantua's a lot harder than the Grunt.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Dr. Freeman]

The military probably finished off any grunts remaining on Earth, though. That, and starvation. I read somewhere official (I think) that the Grunt armour is actually extruded from their bodies, like a carapace, and it's made from exotic minerals found on Xen. A diet without these minerals would cause them to starve.

Or something.

-Angry Lawyer

yeah i read that somewhere too..
hmm...isn't it in that book "Raising the bar" ??

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I think it dates back further than that, possibly something like the HL1 strategy guide.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Flyingdebris]

if there are still vorts left alive and not starved to death, i see no reason why alien grunts should have starved to death. There's no way the military could have gotten all of them before the shit hit the fan with all the portal storms dropping the rest of xen on earth. They probably would not ally with anyone and be outwordly hostile against pretty much anything. Most likely living as bands of nomads or something

i think that they'd make an interesting enemy in certain areas. They're tough bastards who could pretty much survive anything. and if the skinny little vorts can do it, i think the grunts can too. and for that manner, gargs

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Well, you have the factor that Grunts are bred to kill. Vortigaunts aren't - Vortigaunts have the capability for reason. The Vorts survived because they made a pact with Eli. The Grunts were likely too busy killing things.

Gargs are almost definately somewhere in the wilderness; they're mentioned in Raising the Bar at one point in a script.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[French Ninja]

Nah, you'd probably get eaten by the Xenians beforehand. The Controllers are likely still pissed at Gordon for the destruction of Nihilanth.

-Angry Lawyer

Maybe after Nihilanth's death, there is a Xenian "French Revolution"
IE:
Nihilanth: Louis the XVI
Controllers:1st and 2nd Estate(aristrocrats)
Grunts: Soldiers(sided with 3rd Estate, too bad there isn't a Xenian Napoleon )
Vorts: 3rd Estate(everybody else)
Gargs:Horses :dork:

Of course, with a Xenian Revolution, there needs to be a Xenian Reign of Terror, where the ruling class(controllers) is eliminated.

I'm not saying Xen would be in open arms, but perhaps seeing how the vortigaunts on earth are well treated and that those evil evil Controllers are gone, maybe Xen aides us against the Combine in HL3.

 

[Flyingdebris]

ahh but here's the thing, in hl1 we had no idea at all that the vorties were capable of reason either. We just new them as the crazy electric aliens that were easy to kill and made funny noises. There's no telling how the grunts would behave once free of mind control. They are probably a lot less intelligent than the vorts, but that doesn't mean they'd be too stupid to have a sense of survival.

and perhaps they don't get enough of whatever xenian crystal that gives their carapaces their strength, if anything it could just mean that their armor is less developed.

 

[Asknoone]

How the ****ing hell have you managed to post the same bloody thing 8 times? HOW!?

 

[Raxxman]

the man really wants his point across

 

[DevgruSeal]

After this overload, I'm not sure I give a damn if alien grunts are in HL2. HL3. HL:WTFEver

 

[Spike]

DID YOU KNOW:

Kliener was called walter kleiner in HL1 and not Isaac Kleiner as in HL2.
all: "aaaahhhh"

 

[Asknoone]

DID YOU KNOW:

Kliener was called walter kleiner in HL1 and not Isaac Kleiner as in HL2.
all: "aaaahhhh"

DID YOU KNOW:

Your wrong.

He was called Alex Kliener. kthxbi

 

[Spike]

YOU LIE

haven't you ever heard of WALTER"S WORLD

 

[Spike]

I think gordon already had a family in HL1 because in the PS2 version in his locker there was a picture of a woman and a kid.

 

[ríomhaire]

I think gordon already had a family in HL1 because in the PS2 version in his locker there was a picture of a woman and a kid.

That was confirmed as being a joke played on Gordon by 1 of his co-workers.

 

[Asknoone]

YOU LIE

haven't you ever heard of WALTER"S WORLD

Alex Kliener. Check your hl manuel

 

[Spike]

a) I will not check my manual.

b) That joke (if it was played on gordon) is not very funnny.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

That was confirmed as being a joke played on Gordon by 1 of his co-workers.

Really? I just assumed he'd had a family, but with the Combine blowing everything up, they're probably dead.
Fancy pointing out a source for this interesting tidbit?

-Angry Lawyer

 

[ríomhaire]

Acctualy thinking back someone said that somewhere or another but I'm not sure if it was confirmed, sorry bout that. But I'm possitive he has no children and is not married.

 

[Angry Lawyer]

I'm sure it was something like his nephew or some other blood relative.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Flyingdebris]

i will not rest till isee some alien grunts, i want my beeshooter back!

 

[Ownzed]

I'm not sure..but I voted for all four because I felt like it.

 

[Asknoone]

a) I will not check my manual.

b) That joke (if it was played on gordon) is not very funnny.

You won't check your manual because your wrong? Ok.

 

[Salad22]

I don't kinda get you there samon...well anyway I think that they should return but not exactly like they was in HL1.. They should be more different and plz no f*cki*g following bow-ties

 

[Angry Lawyer]

Well, if you owned Raising the Bar, you'd know that they were originally designed with quite an array of weaponry.

Samon's almost always right (unless I disagree with him), so listen to him.

-Angry Lawyer

 

[Asknoone]

Well, if you owned Raising the Bar, you'd know that they were originally designed with quite an array of weaponry.

Samon's almost always right (unless I disagree with him), so listen to him.

-Angry Lawyer

Which is very rare, me and Lawyer disagreeing - unless were going back to the good ol' days of the Xen/combine rave. My mind was weak back then

 

[Spike]

i dontnow if i'm wrong unless i check the manual and the reason im not going to is because i dont want to, not because im wrong.

 

[ríomhaire]

i dontnow if i'm wrong unless i check the manual and the reason im not going to is because i dont want to, not because im wrong.

You're wrong, get used to it.

 

[UndeadScottsman]

I just doubled checked the HL1 manual and there is no mention of an "Alex Kleiner" in the letter. Just "Dr. Kleiner"

YOU LIE

haven't you ever heard of WALTER"S WORLD

You mean Walter BENNET, a character made up by the Planet Half-Life staff?

The military did not go to xen.

Can't really say one way or another on that, Samon. From all appearances the Gman is referring to the APC and military corpses in a crater when he said "The Borderworld, Xen, is in our control for the time being..." It isn't blatently stating the military did a full on invasion of Xen but it would appear some level of troops were sent there. Still, appearances can be decieving. Like I said, can't really say either way.

Chances if any were in the wilds, the wasteland creatures got them. They were from what I could tell, modified vorts. Hence a factory to make them. They had the same eyes, and the third arm. They were just simply mutated.

Incorrect; their eye arrangement is radically different from the Vortigaunts; they have the same "three-eye" configuration that the Alien Controllers have; the vortiguants have a large central eye that is surrounded by a number of smaller eyes.

I think it dates back further than that, possibly something like the HL1 strategy guide.

-Angry Lawyer

Don't know if it shows up in the strategy guide, but I know it originated in a series of pre-release writeups for Half-Life that were posted on OGR.com a long, long time ago. The writeups had cool stuff like scientific names for various stuff (Vortigaunts were like Xenotherum subservillia and the Grunts were like Xenotherum myrimix.. Barnacles were *scientific name for a real barnacle* donaldsa, named after Dr. Donald something, the barnacles first victum.)

Anywho, basically the tidbit about them eating rocks on Xen to get the minerals needed to grow their metallic armour was mentioned there, along with a joke about how the player shouldn't wait around for the critter to starve as it wouldn't happen anytime soon.

Quite possibly they could find suitible replacement sources on Earth, though.

 

[ríomhaire]

I just doubled checked the HL1 manual and there is no mention of an "Alex Kleiner" in the letter. Just "Dr. Kleiner"

They changed the manual for some reason, in the original Gordon didn't have a doctorite either in the opening credits, only a Bacholors degree.

 

[Spike]

Lets drop this kliener argument, he's called Isaac now and that's all that matters.

 

[Asknoone]

Can't really say one way or another on that, Samon. From all appearances the Gman is referring to the APC and military corpses in a crater when he said "The Borderworld, Xen, is in our control for the time being..." It isn't blatently stating the military did a full on invasion of Xen but it would appear some level of troops were sent there. Still, appearances can be decieving. Like I said, can't really say either way.

Ok, good point

 

[UndeadScottsman]

They changed the manual for some reason, in the original Gordon didn't have a doctorite either in the opening credits, only a Bacholors degree.

Just did a fresh install of my original copy of Half-Life (Purchased in Novemeber of '98) and it states "Ph.D., MIT, Theoretical Physics" in the titles.txt in the original valve.pak file. Likewise, in the manual that came with that copy, there is no mention of Freeman's level of education at all, other than his being referred to as "Dr. Gordon Freeman" which implies that he has a Doctorate, not just a Bachelors.

The only time I've ever seen "Alex Kleiner" mentioned was in the little two paragraph blurb about Gordon Freeman that's been floating around hte net for ages. (The one that talks about a butane powered tennisball cannon) which I've never been able to determine if it was a legitimate piece of info or even made by Valve at all.

 

[ríomhaire]

Just did a fresh install of my original copy of Half-Life (Purchased in Novemeber of '98) and it states "Ph.D., MIT, Theoretical Physics" in the titles.txt in the original valve.pak file. Likewise, in the manual that came with that copy, there is no mention of Freeman's level of education at all, other than his being referred to as "Dr. Gordon Freeman" which implies that he has a Doctorate, not just a Bachelors.

The only time I've ever seen "Alex Kleiner" mentioned was in the little two paragraph blurb about Gordon Freeman that's been floating around hte net for ages. (The one that talks about a butane powered tennisball cannon) which I've never been able to determine if it was a legitimate piece of info or even made by Valve at all.

Crap, someone's been lying to me. And I can't remember who it is!

 

[Teta_Bonita]

The only time I've ever seen "Alex Kleiner" mentioned was in the little two paragraph blurb about Gordon Freeman that's been floating around hte net for ages. (The one that talks about a butane powered tennisball cannon) which I've never been able to determine if it was a legitimate piece of info or even made by Valve at all.

I think that paragraph about the tenisball cannon was in the HL manual, but im not sure.... *looks for hl manual* :E

 

[UndeadScottsman]

I think that paragraph about the tenisball cannon was in the HL manual, but im not sure.... *looks for hl manual* :E

If it was, then I never noticed in the past seven years, even when I double and triple checked in this thread. Heck, I'll check again just to make sure.

Nope, not there.

 

[ríomhaire]

I think that paragraph about the tenisball cannon was in the HL manual, but im not sure.... *looks for hl manual* :E

I think someone said it was in the stratagy guide.

 

[Spike]

lets resume the topic to HL grunts

they had the same eyes and mouth style as vortigaunts

 

[Asknoone]

they had the same eyes and mouth style as vortigaunts

Is double posting a hobby of yours?