Amazing primitive tribe discovered!

[Vegeta897]

Are they legit?

I have heard stories of explorers from the 90's paying dudes to set up 'remote indian tribes' in the jungles of the amazon.

Well what good would money do them if they're pretending to be ancient tribes?

 

[Jintor]

Well what good would money do them if they're pretending to be ancient tribes?

The ancient tribe thing is a day job, they probably go for pizza on weekends.

 

[Laivasse]

Is that Papa Lazarou at the back??

 

[Jintor]

FYI That's a spy.

 

[Ren.182]

If this is legit then its awesome.

Leave 'em be if it is.

 

[Vegeta897]

There was a movie like this, wasn't there? Like, they found a caveman preserved in ice, and they thawed him out and revived him, and let him loose in this simulated habitat they constructed... I think the ending scene was him screaming at a helecopter, lol.

I saw this movie in school. Man, I want to see it again now. Anybody know the name?

 

[Ren.182]

I think the ending scene was him screaming at a helecopter, lol.

Haha, I wanna see it just for that scene

 

[Vegeta897]

I think I found it... It's called Iceman.

 

[Que-Ever]

There was a scooby-doo episode like that.

 

[Druckles]

I can almost guarantee you, just like the bushmen of Southern Africa, these people would prefer to live their life the way they always have.

But surely we have to give them the choice?

How would you feel suddenly finding out in 50 years time that there's been an alien race watching us and keeping secrets from us that we spent most of our lives trying to achieve?

 

[Raziaar]

But surely we have to give them the choice?

How would you feel suddenly finding out in 50 years time that there's been an alien race watching us and keeping secrets from us that we spent most of our lives trying to achieve?

Trying to achieve? <chuckles>

 

[Seppo]

they kinda look like apes

 

[ríomhaire]

 

[Slug Advisor]

I say introduce them to the modern world gradually. Like, basically help them advence in alogical way, like most of humanity did, only speed the pocess up a little. Or a lot.

 

[Blackthorn]

The modern world is pretty s***, and I bet they're all happier and healthier than any of us are. Jeez I wish I could have my memory wiped and be raised in a tribe...

 

[StardogChampion]

I think I found it... It's called Iceman.

Calfornia Man - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104187

 

[Vegeta897]

Calfornia Man - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104187

No.... No.

 

[Druckles]

I say introduce them to the modern world gradually. Like, basically help them advence in alogical way, like most of humanity did, only speed the pocess up a little. Or a lot.

I don't think we should even do this. Just literally tell them "hi, there's another world out there. You want to be a part of it? Either way, you need to know it exists!"

 

[Operational]

I don't think we should even do this. Just literally tell them "hi, there's another world out there. You want to be a part of it? Either way, you need to know it exists!"

That would violate the Prime Directive.

Picard is not amused.​

 

[Krynn72]

I can almost guarantee you, just like the bushmen of Southern Africa, these people would prefer to live their life the way they always have.

I can almost guarantee you they would rather have a choice in the matter.

 

[Raziaar]

I can almost guarantee you they would rather have a choice in the matter.

I can almost guarantee you they've been contacted by the outside world at least once before in the 20th century. There is the notion of uncontacted people, but it's not really entirely 100% uncontacted.

Recent usage favors the term "isolated" rather than "uncontacted" as few peoples have remained totally uncontacted by modern civilization, but a number have chosen to make contact either exceedingly difficult or dangerous.

Meaning they don't give a shit about your world... They'll **** you up with their pointed sticks!

 

[Emporius]

I say we give them guns and make it a reality show

 

[Krynn72]

I can almost guarantee you they've been contacted by the outside world at least once before in the 20th century. There is the notion of uncontacted people, but it's not really entirely 100% uncontacted.



Meaning they don't give a shit about your world... They'll **** you up with their pointed sticks!

That doesnt mean this tribe has had contact. They should at least be taught that a helicopter is impervious to arrows and is in fact, not edible.

I say we give them guns and make it a reality show

Not far enough. We need to introduce a gay guy to spice things up.

 

[Vegeta897]

Because homosexuality only exists in the modern world.

 

[Qonfused]

these guys suck REALLY BAD at empire earth apparently....

I lol'd quite hard.

 

[Asuka]

Im LMFAO so hard right now its insane!

lmao at them trying to shoot down the heliocopter, my god this could be the birth of a new religion for them.

LMFAO!!!

 

[Combine_Advisor]

OMG They are worse than the Amish!

 

[Sulkdodds]

We should definitely contact them, just because it would be awesome.

Because homosexuality only exists in the modern world.

Technically, you're right, as before say 1750 and certainly before 1850 there was simply no concept of a 'sexuality' being part of the definition of a person's identity. Men in the 17th century might have had sex with other men, but this would have simply been sex. Identity itself was subtly different.

 

[Vegeta897]

The fact that this tribe exists defies all your little attempts at logic!

We need new laws of physics!

 

[Sulkdodds]

Have at you with hippy-radical history of ideas!

As Michel Foucault argues, it is only since the 18th and 19th centuries, and it is as a a phenomenon bound up in the creation of the modern capitalist state, that 'sexuality' has come into existence - as a discursive creation, which leads us to believe that sexuality contains our personal truth, a discourse strengthened by and assimilated into the discourses of evolutionary theory and of psychoanalysis!

 

[taviow]

I suggest The Truman Show with a primitive tribe! yay!














Leave them alone.

 

[Remus]

I suggest we napalm them, then build a freeway over their scorched remains.

 

[PvtRyan]

I say we play mindfuck games with them.

 

[ríomhaire]

I can almost guarantee you they would rather have a choice in the matter.

I can almost guarantee you that no one could really explain the choice to them because no one who speaks their language has seen the outside world. In order to comunication with them in the first place we would have to learn their language, in the process introducing outside interference, thus making the choice for them in the first place.

 

[Sulkdodds]

I say we play mindfuck games with them.

Well, yeah. I remember talking about this with a friend after watching Stargate. Imagine you came into contact with an entirely new society of humans, with whom you could actually communicate or learn to communicate - just as Daniel and his marines become marooned on the alien planet in the movie, or as a small party of 'explainers' might be when they go to visit this tribe. I was thinking about the part where the native kid tries to touch the marine sergeant's gun, and the sergeant is like GTFO. The kid looks terrified, and I realised how cool it would be if the natives genuinely got the impression that our US marines had this kind of bizarre warrior-culture thing where they name their guns and rever them as living companions, or kind of worship them as idols, which are not to be touched or defiled by any other person. Then there's the scene where the natives get to have a cigarette for the first time. with them. Imagine if Sarge had said: "here's a cigarette! We smoke eighty of these every day."

I said to my friend: I would definitely try and mess with them. Because it'd be my only chance. If you told them what life on Earth was really like the first time around, you would never then be able to reverse that - but if you tricked them, you could have fun telling them everything AND THEN you could reveal your deception and you'd get to do the whole thing again. You only get to tell them the truth once.

Of course, it's a bit silly because probably it'd be plenty entertaining enough to watch the looks on their faces when you tell them what the earth is really like. It's not as if there are a shortage of things to show them.

 

[VirusType2]

we should build a giant black obelisk monolith where they frequently travel though, for them to discover one morning,

we could sneak out there with night vision, and raise it 2 inches every day over a long period of time.


if you have seen 2001 you know what I mean


http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=black obelisk monolith&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

 

[PvtRyan]

Replace 'obelisk' by 'giant rubber dong' and I agree.

 

[VirusType2]

just park a shiny new sports car out there with the keys in it


every week a new mysterious item appears.


film it, and call it a reality show.

 

[nurizeko]

Wow, those photo's nostalgically reminded me of the many stone to digital age type RTS games I've played in my youth.

The modern world is pretty s***, and I bet they're all happier and healthier than any of us are.

The modern world enabled you to survive childhood disease without a single complication. You have never suffered a fatally terrible winter, you have never went properly hungry or thirsty in your life. To criticize modern civilization as somehow worse then living in the stone age is to prove your probably evolutionary inferior then those natives down there, at least they have the excuse of isolation from the greater world to explain away their state of utter primitive culture.

They may be happier, but that isn't a valid measurement of what is better. Not dying from a simple disease, thats better.



We could leave them alone, on the other hand, leaving them to die of diseases which are considered historical legend to us types seems a bit cold TBH.

Make careful first contact plans, go slowly and introduce ourselves and the world, let them decide what they want and how fast they want it.


But yeah, in principle I think its pretty disgusting that we would allow human beings to languish in ignorance and primitive civilization, when we have space probes and cancer drugs.



Still......since we still have a whole third world of people were failing to help, perhaps we shouldn't be too hasty.


At the least, its an interesting situation, we, looking down upon our cultural and technological ancestors, while they gaze up to us, seeing something we know as some amazing supernatural thing to hold in awe or fear.


We're both the same, were all human beings with the same capacity for thought and understanding, and yet so different, and all because they live in a world that barely goes beyond their primitive hut, and we can interpret the expanses of the universe as accuratel as currently possible at the tips of our fingers through this magical box connected to a window of interactive light.



Top stuff!. :thumbs:

If they did, they'd almost certainly die of introduced disease.

Disease can spread both ways, but at least we have more advanced medical science and containment/quarantine procedures to cope.




Cool little 15min clip from some old film thing.

The gods must be crazy

 

[Druckles]

That would violate the Prime Directive.

Screw the damn Prime Directive! I've not seen one Star Trek captain who hasn't violated it! It's bollocks and you know it!

:angry:

Edit: I lol'd anyway.