another gman thread (only joking)

[crackhead]

so what are your theories on gman. lol just kidding my actualy thread is about Breen i was just wondering what his story is and like what part he played in hl1. i didnt play hl1 very much on singleplayer.

 

[Sulkdodds]

Christ, you really had me going there for a second.

He wasn't in HL1 - at all. Valve made him up for HL2 and thought 'I know, let's say he was the administrator of Black Mesa'.

[sarcasm] This is just a theory:

Breen was in charge of Black Mesa and the likelyhood is that he discovered the Combine through the teleportation research. Blinded by the prospects of seeing the stars, he made a deal with the Combine. He would engineer the Resonance Cascade accident, and in return, when the Combine invaded through the dimensional rift and took over Earth, Breen would get to be in charge.

[/sarcasm]

That may or may not be true, but its quite likely.


Evidence for this:
- Breen was BMRF admin. Go figure.
- In HL1 there are a lot of references to 'the Administrator demanded we increase power' and 'I tried to tell the Administrator but he just wouldn't listen!
- Judging from Breen's rambling at the end of HL2, he's just the kind of person who would invite the Combine to Earth.

 

[gabriel]

yeah, i remember in decay, they said that the administrator wanted them to basically overload the machine gordon was working on that caused the cascade. the scientists didnt agree but they had to do it anyway.

 

[ríomhaire]

The Breen causes RC theory doesn't have much evidence and it really annoys me that on other site (Such as leak-free) people - and not just newbs - take that damn site as fact.

 

[Asknoone]

I'll rip apart any prat who posts that frag files link.

 

[kupocake]

The Breen causes RC theory doesn't have much evidence and it really annoys me that on other site (Such as leak-free) people - and not just newbs - take that damn site as fact.

NOTHING has very much basis in the Half-Life story, because it's not all that extensively fleshed out. However, the "Breen causes RC theory" as you put it, DOES have rather more basis than you give it credit for.

1. In HL2, Breen is revealed to be Black Mesa's administrator.
2. In HL1 and the expansions, the administrator's culpability for the pushing of the equipment beyond its limits is not in doubt. It is seemingly intentionally stressed that a) the machine is running beyond capacity and b) that the Administrator ordered it so.

Therefore, Breen ordered the machine to be run beyond capacity and this resulted in a Resonance cascade. His motivations aren't said, but it's undeniably unlikely that the two events:-

1) Breen causes Cascade
2) Breen becomes the most powerful Human politician on Earth under the rule of a conquering race that got to earth because of the cascade

are mutually exclusive. To claim that there is no evidence is ridiculous. In fact, I'd say it's one of the few things in HL lore that actually has some kind of backup.

 

[ríomhaire]

Unfortunatly this theory does have credit because for a RC to happen then the dampening field locks would have to have been disabled and Breen being the admin, he probably had access. But what's the Combine's motives?

 

[Puzzlemaker]

Troops! They get more troops, man!

And resources! A whole nother world, ripe for the plucking!
Plus, our technology level is low enough that we cant really fight back easily!

So, they came in, beat up our military with minimal effort, then sapped our planet of our natural resources, grabbed a ton of troops, and left some guys behind to keep us from rebelling, and moved on. Quite a good deal, and Breen also got to become "King".

 

[ríomhaire]

But why do they need Breen?

 

[moralt3nacity]

My Conspiracy theory: Combine don't exist. But the claim of Breen that there are people that want him in power, like him, and can enforce his government is an elaborate plot to maintain control of the people since they fear the Combine enough to obey his human guards. Maybe the people believe Human Combine guards are just aliens? Possibly why they wear suits and voice distorters instead of just uniforms?

 

[ríomhaire]

My Conspiracy theory: Combine don't exist. But the claim of Breen that there are people that want him in power, like him, and can enforce his government is an elaborate plot to maintain control of the people since they fear the Combine enough to obey his human guards. Maybe the people believe Human Combine guards are just aliens? Possibly why they wear suits and voice distorters instead of just uniforms?

And why does he argue with a giant slug and where did he get Synths from?

 

[Sulkdodds]

It's all an illusion! Breen used to be a magician.

 

[AJ Rimmer]

It's all an illusion! Breen used to be a magician.

"And for my next trick, I'll make this citadel appear behind you ear!"

 

[BetaMaster]

"And for my next trick, I'll make this citadel appear behind you ear!"

Hahaha, nice. :thumbs:

 

[Sieg]

Troops! They get more troops, man!

And resources! A whole nother world, ripe for the plucking!
Plus, our technology level is low enough that we cant really fight back easily!

So, they came in, beat up our military with minimal effort, then sapped our planet of our natural resources, grabbed a ton of troops, and left some guys behind to keep us from rebelling, and moved on. Quite a good deal, and Breen also got to become "King".

We can, it's just that they came out of nowhere without warning, how can we fight a army that teleports wherever they want.

 

[FCBob]

alright i tried to use the "Breen made a deal with the combine pre-resoncance cascade" in one of my theories but it got shot down rather expertly by some of the forumites on here and i'm going to use the same arguement they use to disprove that Breen made this deal. How would they contact him? It doesn't make sense that they could contact him yet not teleport their. If they could teleport their i doubt the would bother with the whole resonance cascade thing. If what you're saying is true that the combine did indeed contact Breen then i think the first half life game would've been titled something more along the lines of 7 hours war then halflife 1. Anyways it was because of the resonance cascade that the combine discovered earth. They had no previous knowledge of our existence until they detected all the teleportation activity going on in our universe between xen and earth.

 

[kupocake]

How would they contact him? It doesn't make sense that they could contact him yet not teleport their.

... Contacting people is infinitely easier than teleporting yourself and influencing them in person. Observe: there is a network of copper wiring between you and me, and i'm not actually in your room - the joys of technology! But seriously, the Combine contacting Breen and influencing him, doesn't require teleportation at all. The slug thing that contacted Breen was probably in another dimension. It was not in an adjoining room being brought cups of tea by Mossman.

If they could teleport their i doubt the would bother with the whole resonance cascade thing.

That depends on the purpose of the cascade. It was not necessarily a vehicle for allowing a combine invasion force: what is more likely, is that the cascade and the portal storms which followed were a way of softening the earth up for their subsequent invasion. Why send in the full extent of your forces on a healthy world, when you can send in Xen creatures, concentrate the population in the cities and then also attack.

Besides, the Combine's teleportation capabilities are unknown and of no consequence anyway.

 

[ríomhaire]

... Contacting people is infinitely easier than teleporting yourself and influencing them in person. Observe: there is a network of copper wiring between you and me, and i'm not actually in your room - the joys of technology! But seriously, the Combine contacting Breen and influencing him, doesn't require teleportation at all. The slug thing that contacted Breen was probably in another dimension. It was not in an adjoining room being brought cups of tea by Mossman.

Yes, one day Breen is watching Gmod porn and then a giant slug appears on his TV
"I need you to help me enslave your pitiful planet"
"What if I don't?"
"Well, we can only get to Earth if you do as we tell you so...nothing I guess"
"In that case I'd be glad to"

 

[kupocake]

Yes, one day Breen is watching Gmod porn and then a giant slug appears on his TV
"I need you to help me enslave your pitiful planet"
"What if I don't?"
"Well, we can only get to Earth if you do as we tell you so...nothing I guess"
"In that case I'd be glad to"

Heh. Doesn't quite sound like the methods of a enemy that is documented to be "incredibly evolved in its ability to reason, invent, and dominate the minds and cultures of other beings". When Ted Backman said that in RtB, doesn't it seem a little unlikely that that trait of the advisor doesn't have any bearing on Breen's relationship with it?

 

[Wolfy Snackrib]

Hmm... my conclusion about dr Breen is... he's an asshole! Kick his ass!

 

[ríomhaire]

Hmm... my conclusion about dr Breen is... he's an asshole! Kick his ass!

Wow, how enlightened:dozey: