Another smart move by Republicans, no women in military

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Oh, I love the Republcians. Anyone that isn't a white heterosexual male doesn't deserve to have equal rights:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...u=/ap/20050519/ap_on_go_co/defense_bill_women

The military would need congressional approval before putting women in new direct combat roles under a bill approved by a House committee, its Republican sponsors say.
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Women have been allowed in direct combat for 10 years now; another classic example of Republicans moving this country back, not forward.
 
No Limit said:
Women have been allowed in direct combat for 10 years now; another classic example of Republicans moving this country back, not forward.
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No, to my knowledge, women have never been allowed on the "Front Lines" so to speak. They've been placed in positions that might put them in combat situations, but they're not actively sent into combat.
 
yay! I'm a white heterosxual male! they must just love me!


funny how so many republican rallied around Jessica Lynch when it suited their purposes ...although their true feelings were apparent in Shoshana Johnson's case
 
Yet another reason why I hate them.

I'm very glad I'm not living in America at the moment. It's so hideously ironic that right now Bush is blowing places up in the name of "freedom" when back home he's taking away gays rights to marraige, scaring protesters into not protesting for fear of being locked up for terrorism, stripping women's rights to serve their country amongst other things.
 
Bu there is bigger problem in the milittary, a lot of woman reqruits are raped, and the military doesn't do shit about it.
 
Steve_O is correct, women have not, in the British or American forces, ever been allowed to be in an offensive role on the front lines. However, they are allowed to go into defensive situations and security patrols that do put them in harms way, America has lost a number of female soldiers in the war. Women are able to go into the support roles though, in all of the different branches, apart from the Marines, i think.
 
Well realistically some positions just arent suitable for a female soldier, based solely on anatomy and such.
 
such as? they cant pull a trigger? they cant push a button? they're not as tough as their male counter-parts ...please
 
such as? they cant pull a trigger? they cant push a button? they're not as tough as their male counter-parts ...please
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Have you lost all sense of reading comprehension?

based solely on anatomy and such.
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Many facilities in the army/navy/air force werent made for females. You cant pull a tank over in the middle of an exercise so a woman can get out and take a wizz. With guys its a little easier to do it on the fly. I remember there was also an issue with subs, I'm not sure how that ended up. Another thing, a guy wont have to worry about getting a period during the middle of an inopportune moment. In my mind it has nothing to do with a female's mental capacity or physical ability to fight.
 
please, are you telling me that with all the technical innovations the military has come up in the past 100 years and they cant make a portable potty? they already have one

and I guess you've never heard of a tampon
 
please, are you telling me that with all the technical innovations the military has come up in the past 100 years and they cant make a portable potty? they already have one
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Kinda hard to shove one in an already crowded tank. That area could have been used for more shells or more equipment to keep the soldiers safe.
 
but a simple catheter wouldnt work?
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For a period? And I'm not saying they shouldnt be allowed on the front lines, just that some positions aren't fit for the female anatomy.
 
seinfeldrules said:
For a period? And I'm not saying they shouldnt be allowed on the front lines, just that some positions aren't fit for the female anatomy.
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no, a catheter is specifically designed to collect urine


you still havent given a reason as to why they're not suitable for the front lines ...if it's a threshold to pain, then that's where women are far better equipped than men
 
you still havent given a reason as to why they're not suitable for the front lines
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And I'm not saying they shouldnt be allowed on the front lines, just that some positions aren't fit for the female anatomy.
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In my opinion it has nothing to do with a female's mental capacity or physical ability to fight.
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I just disproved your assertations that their anatomy precludes them from being on the front lines ...I'm waiting for your next justification
 
I just disproved your assertations that their anatomy precludes them from being on the front lines ...I'm waiting for your next justification
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How do they take care of their period in a crowded tank? Do we give them a changing room? Furthermore, how many people would be willing to shove that cathetar thing up there all day.
 
CptStern said:
no, a catheter is specifically designed to collect urine


you still havent given a reason as to why they're not suitable for the front lines ...if it's a threshold to pain, then that's where women are far better equipped than men
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That is actually an old wives tale that is inaccurate, men have a higher threshold for pain then women, it's just presumed otherwise as women have to go through child birth.

But i doubt it is to do with toilets, etc, as women can be fighter pilots and the inside of a cockpit is far more cramped then a tank.

The only thing women can't do in the airforce is the regiment, not sure why.
The only thing women can't do in the navy, i think, are submarine positions.
They aren't allowed in the marines at all or any special forces.

However, there are women slowly but surely trickling through to the mens only ranks, there is a women that is going through the training regime to be a Para, which is one of the toughest training regimes in the world.
 
But i doubt it is to do with toilets, etc, as women can be fighter pilots and the inside of a cockpit is far more cramped then a tank.
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Fighter pilots dont stay in the air for very long periods of time. Who knows how long you might be stuck in a tank if the area you're defending is under siege.

The only thing women can't do in the navy, i think, are submarine positions.
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Yeah, I thought that was the case. I'm almost positive the reason behind it is the reasons I have listed.
 
seinfeldrules said:
Fighter pilots dont stay in the air for very long periods of time. Who knows how long you might be stuck in a tank if the area you're defending is under siege.
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Depending on the mission, a fighter can be in the air for many, many hours, some missions i have heard have been over 10 hours long inside a fighter cockpit.
 
Depending on the mission, a fighter can be in the air for many, many hours, some missions i have heard have been over 10 hours long inside a fighter cockpit.
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Well, I still cannot see how it is possible for them to take care of female issues while doing so. Quite honestly I dont see how a guy could go that long either. Those cockpits dont look like the roomiest of areas.
 
What about the pill, doesn't that stop periods? How long is the average contract with the army? Doesn't that under skin implant last 5 years?

Until we get a woman to answer these questions can we now drop the period argument?
 
PickledGecko said:
What about the pill, doesn't that stop periods? How long is the average contract with the army? Doesn't that under skin implant last 5 years?

Until we get a woman to answer these questions can we now drop the period argument?
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The only reason i can see is fitness level and the whole "women are the fairer sex so shouldn't be running around shooting people" reason, i am under the mindset that if a woman can go through the same training as the men, without any exceptions, they should be allowed to do the same things as the men.
 
Razor said:
That is actually an old wives tale that is inaccurate, men have a higher threshold for pain then women, it's just presumed otherwise as women have to go through child birth.
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well everything I find onlne contradicts each other ..some say yes some say no, some say over prolonged periods men are less tolerant than women...I dont think eventhe medical community has any concrete research that proves either side ...I guess it's because what the nature of the experimentation would entail
 
seinfeldrules said:
No, puts them on a regular cycle.
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no it doesnt ...not specifically ..it delays the period till you stop taking it ...so women could prolongue their period ..not to mention that most women can predict the onset of their periods and can plan accordingly ...it's really a weak excuse to bar them from entry based solely on that justification
 
PickledGecko said:
Until we get a woman to answer these…
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The reason I said that was because I was told, by a woman, that a woman stops taking the pill after 3 weeks, has her period, then starts taking the pills again for the next 3 weeks. I’m fairly sure that’s how the monthly injections work too. And I’m also fairly sure the 5 year implant stops them for those 5 years. It was some years ago and my memory is hazy, so I wanted it confirmed (or otherwise) by someone who actually experiences these things.
 
CptStern said:
such as? they cant pull a trigger? they cant push a button? they're not as tough as their male counter-parts ...please
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Females are better pilots, take more g's, etc.
Personally, if I was on the front lines. I wouldnt want a girl next to me. I'd prefer guy get blown to pieces than a girl. Me, personally, I'm protective of the womenfolk. I wouldn't be able to stomach what I momented above, which would make me an inactive soldier and probally the majority of our squad.
 
GiaOmerta said:
Females are better pilots, take more g's, etc.
Personally, if I was on the front lines. I wouldnt want a girl next to me. I'd prefer guy get blown to pieces than a girl. Me, personally, I'm protective of the womenfolk. I wouldn't be able to stomach what I momented above, which would make me an inactive soldier and probally the majority of our squad.
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I'm sure they could divide the squads based on sex.

And as for the women needing protection, I'm sure they can handle themselves. I'm sure the last thing women soldiers want is the men to follow them around being protective (probably getting in the way too :p ).

I'm sure the women would view the men as the one's being weak, because they're letting their emotions get the best of them. :LOL:
 
A True Canadian said:
I'm sure the women would view the men as the one's being weak, because they're letting their emotions get the best of them. :LOL:
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Ha ha! Yeah, we all know how women aren't emotional creatures...
 
CptStern said:
such as? they cant pull a trigger? they cant push a button? they're not as tough as their male counter-parts ...please
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75% of women cant throw a hand grenade far enough to keep from blowing themselves up..
 
Steve_O said:
Ha ha! Yeah, we all know how women aren't emotional creatures...
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Yeah but have you ever seen a women that gets all emotional? I'd hate to be the enemy at that point.
 
C-O-N-Spiracy said:
75% of women cant throw a hand grenade far enough to keep from blowing themselves up..
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75% of women don't go in the army. The ones that do I would guess have more balls than most of us on here.
 
I think women should be able to serve if they want to.

How much training is involved in becoming an American soldier?

If they can pass the tests, then they should be able to be soldiers.
 
No Limit said:
75% of women don't go in the army. The ones that do I would guess have more balls than most of us on here.
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There are alot of women in the army. Im just pointing out that there are certain things women cant do that men can and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that..
 
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