Any 1 do mexican magic mushrooms?

CrazyHarij said:
Drugs are stupid, dangerous and out of fashion. :|
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Out of fashion, eh? That made me think of the Dandy's. Look up 'Not if you were the last junkie on Earth' and listen.
 
Personally I dont drink, and I would never smoke, do drugs, or whatever.

But I dont want to get into a fight about it.. but as these drugs are legal, it would be allright to talk about them, but on the other hand, kids as young as 12-13 come on these forums, use some sence and not go "DID YOU HEAR? TAKEING DRUGS MAKES YOU COOL"

Why not say.. "STEALING DADDYS CAR AND DRIVEING IT INTO WALLS IS FUN" Or something along those lines. Sooo...yea... Drugs are bad, but I dont really hate people who take them, I just hate the ones who try to get others to do it.
 
Who cares if they are in or out of fashion? I still won't do them :|
 
JimmehH said:
A meat-only diet isn't terribly healthy either.

A balanced, moderated diet is the healthiest option. Too much of one thing is always bad for you.
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That's what I meant.
Vegetables only = not very good
Meat only = not very good
Meat and Vegetables = good
 
Jammydodger said:
The mistress no1 ever said that taking drugs was cool.
Eyes wide open
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Your still talking about drugs, and the fact you can buy them then dry them (Or whatever ya do with them) on a forum with kids on.

Im just saying thats all, there are better forums you could go to, to meet people like you, drug related forums for example..
 
I won't. If something happens, you asked for it. I'm not saying I want you dead, but I'm not going to support you in any way.
 
Champ said:
I won't. If something happens, you asked for it. I'm not saying I want you dead, but I'm not going to support you in any way.
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seriously. be quiet already. you've done nothing but belittle everything i or anyone who's taken drugs has said. it's pathetic. you've proven nothing except what a complete idiot you are. and that's all i'm saying to you from now on. :hmph:


have fun Jammy, lemme know how it is ;)
 
I have no problem with drugs so long as any addicts don't rob my house trying to get money for their next fix.
 
Don't call me an idiot Dedalus. I have my reasons for hating drugs, and you know absolutely nothing about them. I'm here to discuss, and when I come across things I see as wrong, I argue against them. If you can't acknowledge that, then it's you who ought to stay quiet.
 
Champ i'm not even gonna bother. your arguments are just so clearly unfounded.

anyway, good luck to you in the future. the world does not like people who can't adapt or make compromises.
 
Funny you say this when we're discussing drugs. Why don't drug users adapt or make compromises? I already told you i accept the fact that they smoke at home. I just don't want to be bothered by it at the places I go. It's you guys who're straying from the norms by taking this shit.
 
Only me!


well not going 2 say 2 much, but it was a experience, (still is) :thumbs:


Dedalus lets just leave him 2 it hes not going 2 change his mind.


peace
 
Hmm....This is quite a harsh thread. I am perhaps biasd because of my views, but even with what Dedalus has said, champ does have some good points so please don't get condesending with him like you are. Calling him names in no way helps your argument.
 
Dedalus said:
Champ i'm not even gonna bother. your arguments are just so clearly unfounded.

anyway, good luck to you in the future. the world does not like people who can't adapt or make compromises.
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You do drugs, why not adapt or compromise and do without them?
 
Foxtrot said:
You do drugs, why not adapt or compromise and do without them?
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why would i do that?

it's not like i do drugs all the time. last time i had a smoke was back in march. and the time before that was near christmas 2003. i'm not some kind of permanent stoner.

so there's no reason for me to do without. if i want to try something i will. i have that freedom. i also have the freedom and the willpower to go without anything for months on end, without a single craving. you begin to see now how his comments are baseless and disrespectful to me.

i accept his views, but he's being rude and isn't showing any respect for someone else's past time. even though he disagrees with it, he makes no effort to understand or accept it. that's why i said what i said, and i stand by it. he takes himself too seriously. to be honest, i'd just tell him to have a smoke and let his tension out, maybe he might relax a little instead of being full of zeal (the wrong kind of zeal).

everyone else on this thread has made thoughtful arguments. his have just been "i hate drugs, don't do them, you are evil for doing drugs". that's the kind of attitude i hate.
 
Back to the original topic:

Actually more of a question(s).

What is all the hype of drugs? What made you decide to take xyz drug? Curiosity? Peer preasure? Escape from reality?

Personally I have not done any 9illicit drug except alcohol when I was younger, nor have I had any want to. It seems unhealthy to me to put something in your body that has the potential to alter your mood...
 
Yeah, thats why I never forcefully stop my friends "doing drugs"(So far I haven't encountered an extreme circumstance, apart from one time that won't be discussed here). I will discourage them at every point because as a friend its something I should do. Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong, I think its harmful to them and I would be a low human being indeed if I didn't try to stop people hurting themselves. There have been many times when I've wanted to simply take away someones cigarette(Or whatever), but I stop myself because I will not infringe on a persons rights that I myself treasure so much.

However, I will not allow people to smoke or do anything that I don't agree with in my house. and I will try to stop them doing it in my presence, because it may be their perogative to do with their bodies as they please but they shouldn't harm me. Take a pub for instance, people say if you don't like smoke then just don't go...but its not as easy as that. I want to be with my friends. Also, a more clinical way of looking at it. I have just as much right to be in a that pub as anyone else, why should I be forced to leave so they can enjoy their smoking? Thats obviously my side of the story, but I think that things like smoking and "doing drugs" in this manner should be limited to home use, and private places which allow it. If its a public area, it shouldn't be allowed because if you are around other people, it is no longer your right, but it is a privalage.


MarcoPolo said:
Personally I have not done any 9illicit drug except alcohol when I was younger, nor have I had any want to. It seems unhealthy to me to put something in your body that has the potential to alter your mood...
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Thats certainly an interesting way of looking at it, which niether part of this little thread have seemed to touch on much.
 
MarcoPolo said:
Back to the original topic:

Actually more of a question(s).

What is all the hype of drugs? What made you decide to take xyz drug? Curiosity? Peer preasure? Escape from reality?

Personally I have not done any 9illicit drug except alcohol when I was younger, nor have I had any want to. It seems unhealthy to me to put something in your body that has the potential to alter your mood...
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when i started uni, i found a lot of friends were already doing it. my first instincts were to just avoid it and stick to alcohol.

one of my very trusted friends had taken the plunge a week or two earlier, and said that he highly recommended at least trying it. so i went round to his place, had a smoke, and liked it. had a good feeling afterwards.

it wasn't really peer pressure, because i was offered it a lot of times but refused because i didn't know what any of it was. it was only when my friend told me what the stuff was, what it would do to you, that i decided it was worth a try.

pretty much everyone i know has tried it at some point in their lives. some of them do it infrequently, others didn't follow up on their initial trial.

it's all about personal preference. but it is a little upsetting when you find people who've never tried anything, telling others what is good and bad about them. from the clique of people i know, many of them who try drugs are fully aware of the dangers. it's hard to explain really. kind of like trying bungee jumping for the first time. you know it might be fun, but you also know the dangers. just a case of whether you want to take the risk. and in the case of smoking stuff, there's little risk if you do it in moderation.

btw, a prime example of why most people do drugs and dislike alcohol is the 'My face hurts' thread.

NB: i am not trying to seduce anyone into taking drugs. it's your choice.
 
MarcoPolo said:
It seems unhealthy to me to put something in your body that has the potential to alter your mood...
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Farrowlesparrow said:
Thats certainly an interesting way of looking at it, which niether part of this little thread have seemed to touch on much.
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You're right, we haven't really touched on how the drugs put you in another state of mind, and how that affects your health.

We've already argued over whether pot is good for your health, or bad (and we know that argument won't go anywhere, since we are all sticking with our opinions.)

Can anyone offer some insight on this topic?
 
Dedalus. Wrong. I'm not being rude, you're being rude. Never once did I attack you. Read my replies again before you start crapping on me.

As I said, I was not rude at anypoint in this discussion. Sure I do not respect the fact that you guys smoke, but I'm in my right to do that. I accept it because I have to, but don't try and make me understand it. I know drugs from the real life, I have had bad experiences with drugs in real life. Not by smoking myself, but people I know have, and that has messed them up nicely.

I don't like drugs, I urge everyone not to do them, if they do and they get screwed, then they will recieve no sympathy from me. But not once have I said people suck or whatever for doing them.
 
Farrowlesparrow said:
Yeah, thats why I never forcefully stop my friends "doing drugs"(So far I haven't encountered an extreme circumstance, apart from one time that won't be discussed here). I will discourage them at every point because as a friend its something I should do. Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong, I think its harmful to them and I would be a low human being indeed if I didn't try to stop people hurting themselves. There have been many times when I've wanted to simply take away someones cigarette(Or whatever), but I stop myself because I will not infringe on a persons rights that I myself treasure so much.
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that's very admirable of you. i have friends like that. but it's especially good that you know your boundaries, and when to overstep them, and when to hold back.


Farrowlesparrow said:
However, I will not allow people to smoke or do anything that I don't agree with in my house. and I will try to stop them doing it in my presence, because it may be their perogative to do with their bodies as they please but they shouldn't harm me. Take a pub for instance, people say if you don't like smoke then just don't go...but its not as easy as that. I want to be with my friends. Also, a more clinical way of looking at it. I have just as much right to be in a that pub as anyone else, why should I be forced to leave so they can enjoy their smoking? Thats obviously my side of the story, but I think that things like smoking and "doing drugs" in this manner should be limited to home use, and private places which allow it. If its a public area, it shouldn't be allowed because if you are around other people, it is no longer your right, but it is a privalage.
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i've never come across anyone doing weed or anything in plain view in a pub. that'd just be plain stupid. i agree with your point about smokers. i find if you chew gum while you're around smokers, you'll breath the smoke out a lot faster than if you weren't chewing. so you won't get as much secondary smoke.

i've only ever done any sort of drug (aside from alcohol and cigarettes) at home or at someone's flat. most people have common sense enough to know a bit of courtesy and take it out of view of children and everyone else. i think what's disappointing is a lot of kids who think it's cool to stand around and do weed in the park or whatever. those drug users are the problem. not the people who keep it clean and do their best not to involve anyone else in their hobby.
 
Champ said:
Dedalus. Wrong. I'm not being rude, you're being rude. Never once did I attack you. Read my replies again before you start crapping on me.
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you didn't attack me but you were disrespectful to Jammy. i take that as an offense. so i stuck up for him.

please drop it now it's ridiculous.
 
Farrow says it all, although I'm a little more agressive on my friends than him. But basically, if they want to do it, I let them. I'm simply not going to be in the same house as them if they do.
 
Is that really true about the chewing gum? Interesting that...

I know exactly what you mean about the kids in the park.

I'm quite fortunate to have the friends I do, because even thought most of them smoke...they don't really want to and are cutting down. They also say they would love for smoking to be banned, because it would be extra incentive to stop and it would also cut down a lot of problems. Anyway, I remember a year ago now I was sat with my friends and this is when one of them had only just started smoking and didn't think it was such a problem. So I walked over and burped in his face(Hes my friend so its ok :P) and said something along the lines of "Thats how I feel every time I'm around you now. I've known you for a long time and I love you as my friend but the smoke is a literal barrier to our friendship. I won't stop being your friend but I can never be as close as I want with that smoke drifting between us".
 
Dedalus said:
you didn't attack me but you were disrespectful to Jammy. i take that as an offense. so i stuck up for him.

please drop it now it's ridiculous.
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Disrespectful? No. If he gets a bad experience, he asked for it. I don't particulary want him to have a bad experience but if he does then fine with me. The crap is illegal and it's dangerous. It's called common sense, not being disrespectful.

I'll drop it as soon as you stop your accusations.
But you are quite right. This is ridiculous, but you don't fling out words like idiot and stuff like that, and then not wanting to go into the argument. That is spineless. "You are a complete idiot, but I don't want to argue"

Stern: I know, it was more the mushrooms that me get into this argument with such a force.
 
1..2..3..Delete!..........

Hmm... DELETE!

Question: How do I delete replies?
 
Champ said:
Disrespectful? No. If he gets a bad experience, he asked for it. I don't particulary want him to have a bad experience but if he does then fine with me. The crap is illegal and it's dangerous. It's called common sense, not being disrespectful.

I'll drop it as soon as you stop your accusations.
But you are quite right. This is ridiculous, but you don't fling out words like idiot and stuff like that, and then not wanting to go into the argument. That is spineless. "You are a complete idiot, but I don't want to argue"
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what is your problem exactly?

i'm confused.

you're rambling on about something and it's making no sense. you know why? because you've realised your mistake but you're too full of yourself to admit it.

i'm not going to continue with this because you are a pathetic person. f.uck it. i've no reason to justify this to you. read your own posts again, and squeegy your third eye. might give you some sense.

just when we're starting to get the topic back on track you've got to come back in and apply "The Champ Effect (TM)" to it. i've tried to diffuse this but it's just impossible. there's no getting through to you.

carry on calling me names and whatever. it doesn't matter. i won't change what i've said. you won't change what you've said. give it a f.ucking rest already.

and for the record, what Jammy was taking is perfectly legal. proves my point again.
 
Dedalus. It's you who are refusing to end our argument. I didn't call you any names, yet you did. You called me an idiot and you called me pathetic. you attack me and then proceed to cry about it when I confront you. Why don't dig up some of my allged idiotic and pathetic replies and I'll either explain what I meant about them or apologise if I said something unfair.
 
Then stop ****ing complain, cry and whine if you don't even want to back it up. Blah enough already. Carry on with the original topic. Can hardly remember it now...
 
Right, hopefully you should both now have recieved messages off me. But just to make sure. Stop this bikering now, or I will close this thread. I don't particually want that because it could be good. But please, if you want ignore each other...anything to stop this argument.

Any messages posted after this that I feel are simply carrying on the argument will be deleted.
 
well no-one's gonna touch this thread with a 10 foot barge pole now anyway...


FarrowleSparrow said:
Is that really true about the chewing gum? Interesting that...
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as far as i know, it works pretty well.



FarrowleSparrow said:
I know exactly what you mean about the kids in the park.

I'm quite fortunate to have the friends I do, because even thought most of them smoke...they don't really want to and are cutting down. They also say they would love for smoking to be banned, because it would be extra incentive to stop and it would also cut down a lot of problems. Anyway, I remember a year ago now I was sat with my friends and this is when one of them had only just started smoking and didn't think it was such a problem. So I walked over and burped in his face(Hes my friend so its ok :P ) and said something along the lines of "Thats how I feel every time I'm around you now. I've known you for a long time and I love you as my friend but the smoke is a literal barrier to our friendship. I won't stop being your friend but I can never be as close as I want with that smoke drifting between us".
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wow, remind me never to smoke in your presence :burp:

i'd be all for banning nicotine. it does nothing for you except make you addicted. that's why it's still legal really, brings in the money.

as for kids in the park, i think they're a product of popular culture. the kind of music/films etc that glamorise this sort of thing. i've got nothing against concenting adults taking drugs, but kids taking drugs is just completely out of line. the kids are being stupid for taking it in the first place, and the person who sold it to them is an even bigger idiot. but there's no way around it, except the decriminalising route, which is a minefield.

i've heard several ideas about decriminalising certain drugs, and they seem reasonable. most of the proposed regulations involve restricting access to those who are allowed and those who aren't. i'd imagine an age limit would be in place, and a limit to how much you can buy in one go. but i think it's a long way off, both in terms of acceptance and practicality.
 
I'd love to reply but I'm so tried :x

Anyway, something interesting about smoking is that if it were to come about today, it wouldnt be allowed due to health and safety laws but because its so popular and makes so much money it stays. Also, I really despsie the age limit on cigs, I mean 16 for crying out loud. Its just wrong...
 
Yes 16 years. At my old school where I'm living there are about 5 smokers per class (16-18 in each.) That's bad enough already, but the most outragous thing is that they all start in 7th grade (which means 13 years old.) That is just plain wrong
 
Im not going 2 say anymore about this subject as some people might think im trying 2 say drugs are cool (which im not),my sig sums up my argument.
Dedalus if your ever down south wales way let me know and maybe we could go out for a pint or whatever. :thumbs:
 
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