Assualt Weapons Ban

[Sgt_Shellback]

California, and in particular LA, has the tightest gun controls in the country... The law abiding citizens are getting screwed there.

 

[UrbanLeonard]

Bigcheese: and might i remind you that england has a weapon ban and they have a much higher crime rate. (i did a debate in school and researched all this.)

We have

There were 0.15 gun deaths in England and Wales per 100,000 population in the past year, compared with 3.6 per 100,000 in the US

from http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/countries.htm, which is very Pro-Gun. US gun deaths are 26 times higher. True we have a high crime rate but a much lower gun related death rate.

 

[Hapless]

We have from http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/countries.htm, which is very Pro-Gun. US gun deaths are 26 times higher. True we have a high crime rate but a much lower gun related death rate.

A death is a death is a death. Why does it matter if a death is caused by a gun rather than a knife, a brick, a car, a baseball bat or a pointed stick? Is a person killed by a gun any less dead because, whew, they weren't killed by a gun? Does the family of the victim of a DUI accident thank their lucky stars that their lost fmily member wasn't the victim of a shooting instead? Death is a tragedy in any of it's forms.

And as Shellback pointed out, the cities in the U.S. with the highest crime rates, particularly crimes involving guns, are cities where guns have been banned for years. Washington D.C.? All guns banned. L.A.? Ditto. Chicago? You got it. N.Y.C.? That's right. Only the police in those cities are legally allowed to own guns. I posit that if citizens were allowed as well, those crime rates would drop like a rock. I also say the crime rate in Britain would plummet as well. It's happened time and time again when states have passed concealed-carry laws. The prospect of possibly attacking an armed person is a strong deterrent.

 

[Hapless]

Damn edit limit....the part in my last post that says "is a person killed by a gun any less dead," should say, "is a person killed by a
<insert implement of death here> any less dead..."


Thank you, that is all.

 

[Sgt_Shellback]

According to a recent report for Congress on foreign country gun laws states, "From available statistics, among the [27] countries surveyed, it is difficult to find a correlation between the existence of strict firearms regulations and a lower incidence of gun-related crimes. n Canada a dramatic increase in the percentage of handguns used in all homicides was reported during a period in which handguns were most strictly regulated. And in strictly regulated Germany, gun-related crime is much higher than in countries such as Switzerland and Israel, that have simpler and/or less restrictive legislation."

Library of Congress, "Firearms Regulations in Various Foreign Countries, May 1998"

The crime rate in London is now higher than the crime rate in New York. Crimes with firearms have risen dramatically since the ban on handgun ownership was passed by Parliament.

"Gun law stalks Britain`s," The Express, May 14, 2001

Right-to-carry states have lower violent crime rates, on average—24% lower total violent crime, 22% lower homicide, 37% lower robbery, and 20% lower aggravated assault—compared to other states and D.C.

FBI, 1999, most recent data.

 

[johnshafft]

We have from http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowlingforcolumbine/scenes/countries.htm, which is very Pro-Gun. US gun deaths are 26 times higher. True we have a high crime rate but a much lower gun related death rate.

the problem is whats considered a gun death? Does an IRA terror attack get counted as gun death or terrorist attack? the reason I mention this is that interpols data is stored differntly than the FBIs.

As much as the Europeans like to complain about the USA's gun Laws they fail to recognize the terrorism that goes on in thier own countries, or the ammount of violence that has been perpetrated in or by thier countries during the world wars, the crusades, and inquistion

(spelling may be off im being lazy)

 

[johnshafft]

beating a dead horse :

http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=258