Bill O’Reilly’s Final Solution

Yakuza from unreal2 forums?

O'reilly is the shit. He put Franken in his place on that cspan link. That guy did need to STFU. The more I read this thread the more of an O'reilly fan I become. Why exactly do you guys hate him?
 
Sparta said:
Please dont tell me i have to watch the whole 2 hours of it to see the hissy fight?
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the entertainment starts about 45 minutes in, when al franken starts talking, the hissy fit starts after he finnishes about 20 minutes later.
 
What he meant when he said we should bomb them wasn't that we should randomly bomb civilian muslim targets, but rather that we should take a less involving approach to future intervention in the muslim world, instead of moving in and counting on winning the hearts and minds of the people. Thats all he meant. He wasn't talking about the eradification of muslim people, or "wholesale slaughter" of muslim civilians, and this is clear when you take his words in the context in which they were spoken.
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You would be amazed at how many people I hear say we should nuke all of the Muslim people. Then, they complain about how foreigners call Americans stupid and ignorant. Genocide seems to be some kind of fad for some of the less advanced minds, and it appals me.
 
Devilphish said:
Yakuza from unreal2 forums?

O'reilly is the shit. He put Franken in his place on that cspan link. That guy did need to STFU. The more I read this thread the more of an O'reilly fan I become. Why exactly do you guys hate him?
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lol, you must be watching a different clip than i.. franken bitch-slaps o'reilly and makes him look like a fagile buffoon.
 
no no no....in the clip I watched fraken basically says alot of bullshit and O'Reilly says dude STFU. O'Reilly pwns.
 
watch the whole thing.. o'reilly ends up looking like an idiot. franken got alot more laughs/cheers too.
 
nah, Bill came out on-top. he got the biggest laughter when he told franken to go sit down it was over his head. By this point he officially owned franken. Plus franken just looks like a twat, which counts against him.
 
Wow...this is the first time I've seen a thread progress from flaming to reasoned debate and not the other way round. Incredible.

About Bill. I've got to admit what he's saying sounds a little...nasty. Then again, the only exposure I've had to Bill and his ideas are through what are quite obviously biased articles who really, really hate him. perhaps they have good reason, because what I've heard so far does not endear me to him. He's right that the US should not be tangling themselves up in country that does not want them there, but he is not right about bombing everybody. As for his manner...well, he does seem a bit of a prat. Has anybody got linsk to soemthign actually written by Bob and not articles against him?
 
Sit down it's over your head... wow that's really great, that phrase convinces me of his dying arguement. Seriously, I could argue that "earwax has feelings too" and I can still use the 'over your head' arguement. Just goes to show that Bill O'Reilly is a sentient turd.
 
CptStern said:
I said uber conservative
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heh, funny, because being conservative has absolutly NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FEELINGS OF THE ISLAMIC NATIONS.

wow...

And lasting, that does NOT sound like a quote from Bill. For one thing, the quote repetes itself numerous times, and Bill doesn't typically do that, nor does he use words such as "Ain't".

I've e-mailed O'Reilly about it, see if he responds.
 
I'm a little curious about the context myself. I don't agree with some of the stuff that O'Reilly says, but I do respect his normal common sense, something that many news personalities seem to lack. He's a smart dude, and I find surprising that even if he felt hate that he'd be stupid enough to SAY SO.
 
pat_thetic said:
I highly doubt that he said that.
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I thought someone near the start of this thread even heard him saying this on the radio?
 
DarkStar said:
Oh, he did. I heard it live on his radio show, that he refers to as "The Radio Factor." He definitely said that. I was shocked.
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There we go
 
What I don't understand is why it is so acceptable to simply bomb the shit out of the terrorists. Calling them sub-human and animals, primitive people deserving of no respect.

Is it because they are arabic? Or muslims?

Because you sure as hell didn't hear that kind of rhetoric when the IRA was targeting innocent civilians (and children). It would have been political suicide for a public figure to say the same things in regards to the IRA.

But all of a sudden we have non-Anglo terrorists, and we should simply kill them all?
 
So you'd like your family to die because some wacko in the Middle east thinks your country is evil? I'd sure like to see you spew out the same crap you just posted again after something like that happened to your loved ones.
 
Rico said:
So you'd like your family to die because some wacko in the Middle east thinks your country is evil? I'd sure like to see you spew out the same crap you just posted again after something like that happened to your loved ones.
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My my... Seems to have struck a nerve...

The fact remains: simply bombing the shit out of the terrorists is only going to recruit more terrorists. There can be no true progression in the war on terror without addressing the underlying causes of terror.

Question: What is the war on terror? It is a war on a tactic. A tactic used by a staggeringly broad demographic. From Ireland to South America to Japan to the Philippines to France to Africa.

So how do you combat a tactic? By killing anyone who uses that tactic? What if other people take up their cause?

How about taking away their reason to fight? Sure, it is not an easy road. But you can see that Northern Ireland is much better now that the IRA (or Shin Fane, maybe spelled wrong) are allowed access to government.

And, I would be interested if you had anything intelligent to say in regards to my previous post.
 
How do you propose you solve religious jihads that provoke terrorists attacks? Should countries change their economic and religious systems to stop terrorism? Addressing the reasons is not always the asnwer, you can't possibly please everyone all the while keeping your own beliefs intact.

There are a lot of what if's in the world, I could easily say the same "What if after we address the reason of the terrorism they find some other thing to attack people for?" That's perfectly feasible too you know.

Here's why terrorists do what they do:

1) Religious ideals
2) They have a differing idea of what societies should be
3) Jealousy
4) Anger brought on by past happenings.

I'm sure there are a few more reasons for them but that's a nice broad view of why they do what they do. The difference between terrorists and others is that other countries do not bomb others simply because they are communist or capitalist. It is also a fact that civilians are not targeted on purpose all the while the terrorist's main aim is to kill innocents to inspire terror (hence terrorism).

There is no set method for dealing with people like these and to tell you the truth, if some random nut decided to attempt to kill my family simply because we live in a certain country then you better be damn well sure I'm going to go to his house and make him die a slow and painful death.
 
Rico said:
There is no set method for dealing with people like these and to tell you the truth, if some random nut decided to attempt to kill my family simply because we live in a certain country then you better be damn well sure I'm going to go to his house and make him die a slow and painful death.
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Hell yea...thats how we do things in the south!!!
 
Rico said:
How do you propose you solve religious jihads that provoke terrorists attacks? Should countries change their economic and religious systems to stop terrorism? Addressing the reasons is not always the asnwer, you can't possibly please everyone all the while keeping your own beliefs intact.
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Religious jihads are only a tool used by extremists to justify their methods. There have been many other terrorists in history that did not use that excuse.

Which countries are you referring to? The ones harbouring terrorists or the ones attacked by terrorists?

As for keeping your own beliefs - I don't understant your context. Can you please elaborate?

My guess for an example would be the killing of civilians. That is against the belief system of the Western world. And yet thousands of civilians have been killed already in the war against terror.

Rico said:
There are a lot of what if's in the world, I could easily say the same "What if after we address the reason of the terrorism they find some other thing to attack people for?" That's perfectly feasible too you know.
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How so? They are not just randomly attacking because they hate us. There is a method to their madness.

Rico said:
Here's why terrorists do what they do:

1) Religious ideals
2) They have a differing idea of what societies should be
3) Jealousy
4) Anger brought on by past happenings.
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I would say that these are all secondary to:

5) They have no other recourse

If those aggrieved parties actually have access to redress their grievances through an approved system, there will probably be a lot fewer suicide bombers.

Rico said:
I'm sure there are a few more reasons for them but that's a nice broad view of why they do what they do. The difference between terrorists and others is that other countries do not bomb others simply because they are communist or capitalist. It is also a fact that civilians are not targeted on purpose all the while the terrorist's main aim is to kill innocents to inspire terror (hence terrorism).
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But they invade other countries simply if they are communist or capitalist. Just look at the US's record on Chile, and Nicuragua.

Rico said:
There is no set method for dealing with people like these and to tell you the truth, if some random nut decided to attempt to kill my family simply because we live in a certain country then you better be damn well sure I'm going to go to his house and make him die a slow and painful death.
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Yet in a civilised society you would also go to jail. That is why we have such things as 'due process' and a 'rule of law'.

Such a shame that these ideals cannot be applied at a global scale.
 
Rico said:
Here's why terrorists do what they do:

1) Religious ideals
2) They have a differing idea of what societies should be
3) Jealousy
4) Anger brought on by past happenings.
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I think it's a lot simpler. The terrorists and terrorists to be live really sucky, violence filled, extremely sucky lives. They don't get a chance to become something more than a brute or a slave.

They don't get exposed/educated to things like art, law, philosophy, music, culinary cooking, movies, trading cards, PC games, and just all sorts of things that are worth living for. So when they constantly get promised an after-life filled with pimpin houses and hoes if they just kill someone alongside themselves, they are really enticed to end their miserable lives by appeasing their god so they can get access to all the pimpin houses and hoes and happiness.

I guess someone already said all that with one word. My paragraph wasn't as elequent and probably had some grammatical mistakes but I hope I got my point across. Poverty and suffering breeds terrorism. Anyone ever seen many rich philosophers who actually want to change peoples' religious and social views blow themselves up? Nope most are poor, uneducated, people living sucky lives and they want something better. Something better is what becoming a martyr promises them.

We just recently handed over power to Iraq. Run Paul Bremer RUN! Get the fuc% out of there!
 
Mr. Peanut: Revealed!

Hey Progrom, your post totally avoided the topic.

Terrorists DON'T HAVE TO ATTACK PEOPLE. I'm sure their intentions were very good, I bet they just get on planes headed to America so they can go to Disney World until mid-flight, they find out THERE's NO PEANUTS ON THE PLANE! That's when the crap hits the fan and they just go crazy and take over the plane and crash it into random buildings. I predict the next terrorist attack will take out a major disney character like Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck. Not Pluto the dog though, he's untouchable.

I predict their next machination will be the production of a giant peanut-shaped robot which they will use to attack major cities. I have found some secret surveillance photos of their top-secret WMD (see attachment).
 
Rico said:
Hey Progrom, your post totally avoided the topic.
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Oh really? Please enlighten me...

Is that the topic of the thread or the topic you brought up?

Hey Rico - countries DON'T HAVE TO INVADE OTHER COUNTRIES!

But the US seems to have a history of that sort of thing.

And please, give me some more condescension! It makes your arguments that much more convincing!
 
Please refer to my previous post for any further comments you may make on the topic. I'm just about done here, I don't think your argument makes any sense, I don't think you even bothered trying to refute my reply with a logical answer so therefore I leave you with... SUPER EVIL MR PEANUT ROBOT BALLOON.
 
CptStern said:
Bill O Reilly goes too far

Bill O Reilly bastion of all that's wrong with uber conservative america lashes out at Muslims. Calling for their extermination. In canada he would be charged with a hate crime, but I guess in conservative america this passes off as "entertainment". Here's an excerpt:




somebody should shut this nazi down


thanks to Pogrom for sending me this link
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Sorry to hear you hate free speech.
 
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